Shubab ([info]shubab) wrote in [info]libraries,
@ 2006-04-20 17:42:00
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Unbelievable SNAFU
Here is a story to curdle the blood of any librarian. And it is true.

On the day of the time change to daylight savings time earlier this month, an unknown someone at my library went to change the time in our Workflows system. Somehow this action triggered a sequence of events in the program that led from point A to point B, the latter point being that the system emailed out to the vendors an order for every item that had ever been ordered by any branch of our library since May of 2001. We are talking about millions and millions of items ordered overnight. Some orders to large vendors, like Yankee, consisted of tens of thousands of items.

Luckily, many of the vendors realized that something was amiss and contacted the Acquisitions team. Others just went ahead and filled the orders and shipped them off. Some of the vendors are refusing to take the items back.

I gather that folks are trying to figure out if this were a human error or a programming error, and that will determine who pays for the fiasco...




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[info]marginaliana
2006-04-20 10:22 pm UTC (link)
Oh. My. God.

I mean, Sirsi is evil, but... ack!!

You have my total sympathy.

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[info]shubab
2006-04-20 10:30 pm UTC (link)
University Park!

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[info]charlietudor
2006-04-20 10:28 pm UTC (link)
Hoe. Lee. Shit.

What a MESS.

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[info]sootysmudge
2006-04-20 11:24 pm UTC (link)
oh you are SIRSI users too ?(waves at you from other side of the world). Luckily nothing like this happened to us.

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[info]eternitat
2006-04-21 12:39 am UTC (link)
Oh mon Dieu!

But how in the world can changing a clock alter the ordering systems? Wouldn't that be two totally different programs in two totally different systems?

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[info]shimgray
2006-04-21 12:44 am UTC (link)
It's moments like this I get very grateful our acquisitions system doesn't tie in with anything else!

To my mind, incidentally, if it triggered the A->B sequence, it's a programming error full stop.

I mean, there may be a human-error element somewhere, sure... but if someone's design an interface so complex (or confusing) that a) it's possible to do something as bizzare as resending five years of invoices without triggering a barrage of warnings, and b) to do this whilst trying to fix the time, they're really not designing the software properly!

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[info]cb1281
2006-04-21 01:08 am UTC (link)
That sounds exactly like the kind of thing that would happen to us. Sadly, it doesn't surprise me one bit with Sirsi. *sympathizes* I hope you can get everything straightened out.

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[info]betheliz
2006-04-21 04:25 pm UTC (link)
Yowza. And I thought our Sirsi woes were bad. Keep us updated!

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[info]aardy
2006-04-22 02:04 pm UTC (link)
an unknown someone at my library went to change the time in our Workflows system

What the heck kind of server needs to have the time manually changed for daylight savings?

This whole thing sounds suspiciously like a case of PEBKAC to me.

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[info]mrfishes
2006-04-23 05:10 am UTC (link)
Congratulations, you've made it to librarian.net and thence to LISNews (where you're listed in the WTFBBQ department). . . .

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CYA
[info]rocketcitymel
2006-04-23 12:31 pm UTC (link)
How Funny! One acronym-CYA-someone on staff is covering hers or his. This is never going to happen by changing the time on a Sirsi server to a correct time. In fact, there is most likely no way to AUTOMATICALLY, ACCIDENTALLY, trigger this at all. No one can change the time on your server but the root user or, in Windows World, the administrator. So if your org likes sharing the root password, or the password to the user that has control of ordering, then you are pretty lucky that nothing like this has happened before.

It is just so easy to get away with blaming user error on an automation system because in so many libraries only one person MIGHT understand how the whole shebang works due to underfunding and lack of time for training.

Speaks to the need for more salary money in Library work, doesn't it? It will be interesting to hear about what your org found the root cause to actually be.

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Any chance of an update?
[info]max46
2006-04-28 01:41 pm UTC (link)
Are you in a position to give us an update on this incident? We're left hanging with the general impression that it was the vendor's fault. Others (myself included), who have a systems background, are suspicious.
Since this blog seems to be the only source of information and since other blogs are repeating the story and it could constitute a bad reference for the vendor, I would like some follow-up.
Thanks

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