Ariel's craft journal ([info]dragoncrafter) wrote in [info]knitting,
@ 2005-12-19 10:07:00
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Klein bottles
These are my stuffed Klein bottles. They're what you get if you sew together two Möbius strips along their edges. In four dimensions, you can do this, but in three-dimensional space, you have to make the Möbius strips pass through themselves and each other.

There are two standard ways to do this.

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The blue tube is the most common. I just made a tube, then pulled one end of the tube through the wall of the tube. This is the general shape seen in places like http://www.kleinbottle.com/, although they usually make the tube bulge out so you can see it better. Since I can't knit transparent fabric, I didn't bother.

I did do about six short rows at the end, to make the little "lip" near the self-intersection, and a few short rows along the way, to make it more willing to bend into a circle.

I pulled the tube through itself just by putting the working stitches on a lifeline, taking out the needles, poking a crochet hook through the fabric, grabbing a working loop, and pulling it through. This is one of the two common ways to make knitted fabric pass through itself. The other way I used for the other Klein bottle. A lot of knitted Klein bottles just have little holes to pass the tube through. I wanted to try doing knitted self-intersection.

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The pink tube is the alternative, "figure-8" embedding. It almost has to be made using either two circs, or magic loop. The yarn travels in a figure-8 pattern, so you have to have the other needle lying there between two stitches as you work. This works a lot better with a thin little cable than with a thick DPN.

I cheated. One lobe of the figure-8 was made by knitting every stitch, and one lobe was made by purling every stitch. This made the entire outside appear to be stockinette. (I think it would look better in reverse stockinette because then the join in the middle would look sharper, but ah well.) If I'd just knitted it, one lobe would be stockinette and one lobe would be reverse stockinette, and I'd have had to graft the start of the stockinette lobe to the end of the reverse stockinette lobe.

If you were willing to put up with "pinch point" singularities, then you could make a Klein bottle really easily: knit a tube, put in a lifeline, interlace the active stitches, and start knitting it again, and then graft the ends of the tube normally.

I was inspired by several other knitted klein bottles, which are linked to from this entry.



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[info]lunassa
2005-12-19 06:18 pm UTC (link)
Interesting, but what is it, and why? It's a neat shape, and I'm intrigued, but totally clueless as to what they're for.

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[info]apis_mellifera
2005-12-19 06:23 pm UTC (link)
They're mathematical models, basically. Here's an explanatin: http://www.kleinbottle.com/whats_a_klein_bottle.htm

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[info]irihs
2005-12-19 06:22 pm UTC (link)
Very, very cool.

I have to say that although I'm not usually one to shy away from math, the idea of trying to imagine something in 4 dimensions gives me a massive headache. This is why I loved almost every math class I took, through high school calculus, but probably would have been a piss poor math major in college. I think I'm going to have to try knitting some of these, just so I can understand them better.

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[info]blairly
2005-12-19 06:25 pm UTC (link)
Very cool, and we have the same computer :)

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[info]sistercoyote
2005-12-19 06:33 pm UTC (link)
Tres cool. :)

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[info]capsicumanuum
2005-12-19 06:51 pm UTC (link)
That's so cool! I've never seen a knitted model in the figure-8 configuration before.

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[info]cynthia1960
2005-12-19 07:03 pm UTC (link)
Excellent. I'll have to look at my two books from Cat Bordhi and see if there's a pattern there as well.

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[info]kepharel
2005-12-19 07:10 pm UTC (link)
dooood. that rules. and i love your other nerd knits links. my dad was pretty impressed the other day when i told him about knitted fibonacci stuff etc. he'll LOVE these links!

as an aside, i love that you did that angband sweater - i'm intending to make a raglan with a slightly different (aka not yet designed) tree of gondor cable pattern on it. of course, i have to finish christmas knitting first. -_^

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[info]krasota
2005-12-19 07:46 pm UTC (link)
I love nerdly knitting. :)

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[info]emmasee100
2005-12-19 09:51 pm UTC (link)
Geeky knitting rocks!

I just finished my Lorentz manifold (crochet, not knit). There's a pattern for a Klein bottle hat floating around out there.

And I really enjoy the ratios of Fibonacci stripes, so that will be a blanket, real soon now. (Was contemplating a sweater, but then had a think about horizontal stripes...)

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[info]isitnotnifty
2005-12-19 10:04 pm UTC (link)
I love the icon. Where on earth did you find it? (I just graduated with my BS in chemistry, and that test tube rocks.)

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[info]emmasee100
2005-12-19 11:01 pm UTC (link)
It's a picture by Richard Searle, of a St Trinian's girl. Feel free to grab it, if you like it :)

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