pradeepg ([info]pradeepg) wrote in [info]kannada,
@ 2006-04-16 09:22:00
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The kannaDiga identity - first shot at expressing a sea of thoughts
Cross posted from LJ Bangalore, vinay_ks avara korikeya merege.

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Even though I have been a reader of LJ-Bangalore for a while, I've never actively participated. But, in the aftermath of responses to my post, I'm surprised at the range of emotions and especially the lack of Kannadiga-kannadiga voice in this forum. I'll try to address that lacunae.

I'm a kannaDiga by birth. I was born and brought up in Bangalore. I chose to study in a Kannada medium school till 8th standard when, at the age of Five, my father gave me a choice to select my medium of instruction . I grew up reading kuvempu's philosophy of "vishvamaanavata vaada"(universal humanism). He famously said, you can be a kannaDiga even when you are not in karnataka. If you are climbing Alps, that is your sahyadri; the water of Mississippi is your kaveri. Generations of kannaDigas outgrew the shackles of casteism, and other "traditions" by reading his works.

While this was true for people with letters, unlettered people got that message from Rajkumar. People who have to come to Bangalore recently fail to understand all the ruckus and sometime even misunderstand Rajkumar as the one who incites mobs against non-kannadigas. They could not have been more mistaken. It was Rajkumar who carried the message of "nava-bharatha" and later "nava-karnataka" to the corners of Karnataka. Go and watch "bangarada manushya"(lit. Man of Gold), where Rajkumar plays the role of a educated son returning to his village to fight the casteism not by throwing blood around but by bringing in education, technology and good-will. That was a path breaking statement for people who were torn between the old and the new.

Rajkumar himself was from the caste of "eeDigaru (toddy-tappers)" (an OBC in government-speak). In a country where, even after 58 years of Independence, casteism still rules in parts of India, kannaDigas of all castes and creeds accepted Rajkumar as their elder brother. If Karnataka is far ahead of many states in India in social equality, attribute some, if not all, of that to Rajkumar.This alone shows his service to karnataka and India.
Enough about Rajkumar. I'll write about more about him, when emotions on both sides have cooled down.


Yesterday, I visited the heritage sites of talakaaDu and somanathapura. See photos below.
talakaaDu was the capital of the earliest kannada kings - the Gangas [c350 AD].










more here

Somanathapura temple is an exemplary example of Hoysala art.


Even though this trip was planned long before Raj's death, it allowed me to get away from the emotion filled bangalore and take a look inside myself - what is kannada, who are we and more importantly where we want to go from here.

We are a people who have a "recorded" history of nearly 2000 years. We have always been a race of brave and tolerant people. For a race which once ruled India upto the Ganges, we are remarkably non-aggressive. In fact, the earliest kannaDa inscription talks of KannaDigas of being "paradharma sahishNutaru"(tolerant towards others).Karnataka is a place where many religions and hindu revivalist movements have grown. If there is one single quality that distinguishes kannada rulers from others, it has been religious tolerance. Whether it was Rashtrakutas towards Bhuddism or Gangas towards Jainism or later hoysalas towards advaita philosophy(Hindu revival) , or Tippoo sultan towards Hinduism, they have left a tradition which is remarkable. The social equality movement started in Karnataka in the 11th century AD with basavaNNa.

I would also take this context to remind that this quality of kannada and kannaDigas which made many like masti venkatesha iyengar (gnanapeeth awardee) , AK Ramanujam [Tamil], Govinda Pai,Girish Karnad [Konkani] and many others to adopt kannada to do their literary work over their mother tongues.

KannaDa and karnataka has always been a creator and not just a consumer in arts, literature, culture and religion. Today, it angers me and a lot of educated kannDigas when people lump us with rest of South India and call "madrasis" or some such inane word.

This history lesson has a context. When the present moment appears too close to the skin, it is time to look back and look into the future. As Siddhartha, the founder of Fireflies said the other day, "You have to be like a bow; the more you draw your arrow towards yourself, farther your arrow can fly".

While a part of me wants to blame all "outsiders" for "misusing" the hospitality of kannaDigas, my history and culture does not allow me to wallow in self-pity.

Dr. Raj's death brought me out of my self-enforced silence and made me evaluate what a kannadiga should be. Perhaps, it is not surprising that Rajkumar himself gave me a way out of it. I'm talking of Mayura Varma, the founder of the first Kannada kingdom - the Kadambas . He was a brahmin who chose to become a warrior to avenge an insult to a peace loving, non-violent student - himself. The first kannada kingdom took shape to give "swabhimaana"(self respect) to kannadigas. Rajkumar played the role of Mayura in the eponymous movie - Mayura.

But, Rajkumar, true to his image of all things kannadiga, downplayed the "avenger" part and chose to use his role to tell us what "being a kannadiga" means. Read this , this , and this review for a scholarly analysis of that movie.

I dont want kannaDigas to take up arms, like Mayura Varma did, but to introspect and find strength in the fact that we have done well, without being nasty or conscending of other people. We can be the race other people look up to rediscover qualities of humanity, tolerance, creativity and more importantly humility.



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very well said
[info]ajayak
2006-04-17 01:04 pm UTC (link)
Only wish every kannadiga thinks like you , specially during this last few days.

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[info]vinay_ks
2006-04-17 01:18 pm UTC (link)
I think Pradeep's message of introspection and looking back is important.
I dont know about you guys, but nanaganthu, i feel that our identity, the kannda identity is threatened antha. Eegaagle kannada pusthaka oduvavara, kannadadalli bareyuvara , kannada chitragallanu noduvara jana sankhye kadime aagide. eegina kaaladalli, pattanagalalli makkalige kannada ashtu chennagi barolla..kaliyo asakthinu illa.

Evellavannu daati namma bhaasheyannu ulisibekidre , i feel like pradeep said we need to look within. Sampada.net, kannadaaudio.com antha olle initiatives indha swalpa impact ide aadru, it doesnt reach a whole lot of people who dont use the net.

In the face of the increasing influx from outside, in the face of the language apparently losing the number of users, pradeep heldange we need to look within , yen antheera?

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-29 11:05 am UTC (link)
ya u r right. we need to look within and also develop an outlook to be proactive.bari mathadakkenri ellaru adthiwi alwa.bitti sikkodu adonde ee kaladalli.thali nammanthavrella serkondenaru madana.

anamika dubai

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[info]anil_rvce
2006-04-18 07:31 pm UTC (link)
You went with sathwik ?

Check out http://anil-rvce.livejournal.com

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pradeepji
(Anonymous)
2006-06-29 10:58 am UTC (link)
ri pradeepji
khushi aythri nim page odhi.
elladaru iru enthadaru iru endendigu nee kannadavagiru anno hage. ellidre alle kannadigaragi irona bidri
ithi nimma
anamika dubai

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[info]prathapbn
2006-09-19 05:49 pm UTC (link)
good inspiring write up!!!

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You are no different
(Anonymous)
2006-12-07 09:11 am UTC (link)
Pradeepg,

There was completely no need for this regressive inward looking post of yours. In recent years I am seeing lot of kannadigas writing messages with self-pity and display an utter lack of confidence. Unfortunately your post treads the same path. Have you ever read a British or for that matter an author from a western civilization writing how great their culture is? They don't because their quietly confident about the strength of their culture. The more you guys start talking about how "magnanimous" you kannadigas are to "outsiders" the more it shows your chauvnism.
When the world is moving towards multicultural co-existence, you are calling your fellow Indians as outsiders.
How beneficial it would be for the future of India if people like you have real tolerance at heart and most importantly try to learn from the past history of India? Is it too much to ask?

- Indian

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Re: You are no different
[info]skanoza
2007-01-25 06:55 am UTC (link)
At the outset, let me express that i am happy that many young people are at least realizing the importance of retaining their 'identity'. I am quite happy with this post in general but i hope to see the jingoism disappear and turn into a more reasonable and tolerant view of the world and a more confident expression of Indianism (alongside 'Kannadiga-ness' of course).

Now coming to this anonymous post above mine, i broadly agree that 'tolerance' is key and therefore a virtue that must be actively cultivated by all of us alike and that jingoism & chauvinism etc. are signs of diffidence, protectionism and perhaps a poor understanding of the broader picture.

However to imagine that 'a British' or any "author from the Western civilization" haven't bragged about their culture is naive to the point of being daft! If that is a view you seriously hold, please read some more (and then some more again! and then read between the lines as well and perhaps in about twenty years you just might get the point!).
[Western] Propaganda often doesn't meet your eye. So what you read is, at best, just half the story. It's what you don't read that counts.
We may go about screaming that our culture is the best and is being destroyed etc etc. and get termed 'ethnocentric' or 'parochial' for doing that, whereas the westerner will probably make a well-crafted video documentary that may depict a 'third world' country (like India) moving 'forward' by adopting western ideas (and thereby indirectly suggest, ever so gently, that their culture is indeed superior and infallible).
You see how it all works?

Expression can happen in an infinite number of ways and a lot of it is highly complex and even unseen at times. It is the mother of all weapons! Communication is indeed the true "weapon of mass destruction"!

'Westernism' is aggressive without being loud and vocal today. It pushes it's way through cultures in forms you can't even size or fathom; it's everywhere: Education, Health care, Business etc.. And it's all too intricately interconnected. Hell, even using English (instead of Hindi/ Kannada/ Tamil etc.) alphabets to express our thoughts via this medium of the web is not strictly 'Indian', is it?

So you see, Globalisation almost too big to fight (and maybe not all of the western ideologies need to be attacked too; that is unfair to them. and in some cases, maybe it's also too late in the game to reverse things but the least we can do is understand how these things operate and understand what becomes us and what does not and therefore realize what aspects of ourselves to retain and which ones can wait).
They [Westerners], like any other civilization, will face their follies and realize that no one society or culture can have a stronghold on the world. Civilizations are always cyclical.
So don't worry, anybody who wants to 'own' the world and put their beliefs over others will learn their lessons.
We have to open our perceptions and (like Swami Vivekananda said) just be honest in our belief about our cultural identity and adopt only what are absolutely comfortable and honest about, before we get all jingoistic about it or criticize other cultures.
True Indian values are anyway not about marginalizing any other culture but showing infinite tolerance and enormous wisdom. The more we know, the closer we get to liberation from all these petty differences.

Just chill maadkoli!





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You are no different
(Anonymous)
2007-06-27 09:01 pm UTC (link)
I only studied Kannada 3 years in my life but have spoken it all my life. But i do not lack any sort of confidence or sense of identity of who or what i am.

Coming to your post

Wrong on many counts. Firstly what is India or Indianess, there was no India 70 years ago, apart from in the minds of a few "enlightened souls" in the congress party and the Western world, this Indianess is something that the first generation of leaders tried to develop lest it lead to the balkanization of the republic.

Why should i as a Kannadiga, sacrifice my identity and language all of 2000 years old to accommodate a concept (Indian) which was born only a few decades ago. Yes it can be called a regressive mindset but this is my identity and hence this is what i shall be. We fought wars with the neighbouring kingdoms for millenias and have had this identity from right after the dissolution of the satavahana empire. If you expect that to change because someone wrote the Jana Gana Mana and expects us to be brothers and sisters, wake up and smell the coffee.

The only people who seem to be gung ho about India before their own state are the migrants. Why cause i think personally they are too lazy and arrogant to pick up the local language and culture. Remember this we are the sons of the soil and until you prove otherwise you are just a visitors.

If you are uncomfortable, remember we are light years ahead in assimilating people from other regions when compared with the Tams and the Bongs, ask the Tams and Marathas who in all purposes are as Kannadiga as i am. As has been mentioned by many you are not judged as a Kannadiga or a non Kannadiga by what you speak at home but by what you speak on the streets. Hence Masti, Vishweshriah etc.

The problem these days has been the deluge of migrants which we haven't been able to deal with yet. Self effacing dialog isn't a lack of confidence infact it goes beyond confidence. Yes there are a lot of criers among digas but there is a stock which is quietly confident and will show face when it matters.

p.s : many digas don't watch kannada movies cause it is crap.

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Re: You are no different
(Anonymous)
2007-12-10 09:33 pm UTC (link)
I have two points to put forth:
1. Movies
Please dont badmouth Kannada movies. We have produced some high quality movies in the past, with Mungaru Male being the latest.
2. Indianness
In the light of increasing threat and infiltration from neighbouring countries, it is important that we be patriotic and think at national level. Having said that Hindi is only second language or even third language for most of us, and so we have to love our Kannada and Karnataka first and then our country Bharatha.

Siri Gannadam Gelge,
Jai Karnataka Mate,
Jai Kannadambe,
Jai Hind

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