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Ran into a snag - Maybe someone knows this city? [13 Sep 2008|01:25pm]

lhendri479

I received the death certificate for Joseph ANDERT (born 3/17/1888 in Rarshoff, Russia) (Died September 13, 1924 in Eastford, CT)

One major problem - Cannot find the town of Rarshoff, Russia anywhere in the world.

Someone suggested that I look in Hungary because there are a lot of Andert's there and in Austria which I will do.

Was Hungary part of Russia in 1888?

Can anyone find the town of Rarshoff, Russia?

If anyone knows the names or has relatives by the name of ANDERT, HILDEBRANTS, or ALTSCHULER - Please contact me and I can send further information.

Thank you fellow genners.
Linda In NC

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More complete Shtetl info! [27 Jul 2008|08:39pm]

fallingstar12
http://www.shtetlfoundation.org 

 
The mission of the Shtetl Foundation is to document and celebrate the rich and vibrant Jewish History in Europe before its destruction during the Holocaust with the building of a full-size replica of a typical East-European Shtetl in Rishon Le-Zion, Israel. Construction is scheduled to begin in 2003; The Shtetl Foundation, a 501 c not-for-profit organisation, was founded by Prof. Yaffa Eliach in December of 1999. The Foundation's headquarters are located in New York City.
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Shtetls [23 Jul 2008|06:13pm]

fallingstar12
I was looking up a shtetl in Poland that my great-grandfather lived in years and years ago, and I found this great list on Wikipedia.org.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtetl


It lists all the shtetls by country. Hope it helps!!
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Galicia [25 May 2008|03:39pm]

fallingstar12
How is "Galicia" pronounced? Whenever I see that word I think of the place in Spain with the same name. But I'm talking about this place
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No record at Ellis Island? [09 Feb 2008|06:40pm]

ftmichael
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I've only just started looking into my ancestry a bit, and have run a handful of searches online with http://jewishgen.org/ and http://ellisisland.org/ , but that's about it so far. Three of my grandparents each come from a different country in eastern Europe, and the fourth was born to parents who each came from different eastern European countries - so I have five countries in my heritage. All of them are/were Ashkenazi Jewish.

The person I have the most information for is my maternal grandmother, who was born in 1912 in the Ukraine (no idea about specific location) and immigrated with her parents and three older siblings in 1913 (June, I think, but not certain and don't have an exact date). They settled in Syracuse, NY, so I'm assuming they had to have come through Ellis Island. I don't know where they set sail from. The spelling of their surname is obviously causing me a lot of difficulty in trying to find immigration records online, even with the 'sounds like' feature, and no matter what I search for, Ellis Island seems to have no record of my grandmother, her father, or anyone whose information matches any of her family. Their name was changed when they arrived to a shortened version that's much easier for Americans to pronounce; searching for the shortened version also got me nowhere. I also assume that my great-grandfather's name was changed after he arrived, as the only name I have for him is Harry.

Is it possible that immigrants from Europe, who arrived and settled in New York state in 1913, did not go through Ellis Island? They had some money, but even if I get all romantic and imagine them being smuggled into the country in a very secretive way, it's hard for me to imagine them managing it with four children, the youngest of whom (my grandmother) was about six months old, all surviving. I'd be very surprised if they didn't come in via normal channels.

Any thoughts on how I can get this info?

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SLAVIC SURNAME ORIGINS [04 Feb 2008|08:14pm]

fallingstar12
SLAVIC NAME ENDINGS AND ORIGINS

SLAVIC NAME ENDINGS

I'd (db) like to share some information from two genealogy books I found to be extremely useful. Some of you may already have them. Those of you who don't may find this helpful:

According to WILLIAM F. HOFFMAN'S POLISH SURNAMES: ORIGINS AND MEANINGS, different suffixes point to regional variations---

-czuk (or anglicized -chuk) tends to appear in names coming from eastern Poland and Ukraine,

-czok is more likely to lead back to Silesia, -czak and -czyk are standard Polish. They all mean "son of."

An example of an occupation being turned into a surname is the name Kowalczyk = kowal (smith) + czyk = son of a smith (blacksmith?)

These are some other suffixes:

-czuk = common in eastern Poland and Ukraine

-icz, ycz = Polish, Ukrainian and Russian/ In early writing often spelled -ic.

-owicz = Polish, Ukrainian and Russian.

Also spelled -ovich, -evich (English). In early Polish documents often spelled -owic. Consists of compounded suffixes -ow- + icz, indicates son of or from (father's name).

Some other "son of" suffixes that could be applicable to Lemkos are:

-c'kyj = Ukrainian (equivalent of -cki in Polish)

-cuk (c with accent mark) = Ukrainian patronymic usually spelled -chuk in English.

Equivalent of -czuk in Polish -cyk (c with accent mark) = Ukrainian patronymic usually spelled -chik or -czyk in Polish.

-enko = Ukrainian

-evic (c with accent mark) = Ukrainian or Russian patronymic usually spelled -evich in English, equivalent of -ewicz in Polish.

-ic (c with accent mark) = Byelorussian, Russian, or Ukrainian patronymic, usually spelled -ich in English, equivalent of Polish -icz.

-isyn (s with accent mark) = Ukrainian (also -yszyn) -iv, -iw = Ukrainian, equivalen of -ow in Polish and -ov in Russian

-ko = Ukrainian or Russian and often in Polish

-nyj = Ukrainian

-off = German spelling of characteristically Slavic suffixes

-ov -ovic (c with accent mark) = Belarusian, Russian or Ukrainian, equivalent to Polish

-owicz -sky, s'kyj = Czech, Russian or Ukrainian.

Polish spelling doesn't allow y to follow k, so these suffixes tend to be renderings in Roman letters of names written in Cyrillic.

The -skyj or s'kyj is especially likely to be Ukrainian. In Polish -ski.

-uk = Ukrainian

-ul, -ula, -ulya = Can be Polish but also Belarusian or even Romanian.

-yc (c with accent mark) = Belarusian, Russian, or Ukrainian, equivalent of Polish -ycz, usually spelled -ych in English.

-ysyn (s with accent mark) = Ukrainian, spelled -yszyn by Poles and -yshyn by English speakers. Usually metronymic (formed from Mother's name.)


(etc... see link)
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My Jewish DNA [27 Oct 2007|02:35pm]

doctor_detroit
Out of curiousity I entered the NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC Genogram Project where you donate to the cause and they you vials to get a cheek swabbed DNA sample. You then submitt the DNA and they run a trace on it.

See link if interested in the program ( https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/journey.html )

I came up with mainly Ashkenazi Jewish DNA from my maternal DNA. There have never been Jews in my family that anyone knows of. I assumed all my relatives were Irish, Polish and Canadian-French (Quebec) Catholics.

I expected some French-Canadian DNA from my mothers side and maybe a dash of German.

One great grandmother on my mother's side was from Germany, and I'm assuming came during or after WWI. So it's possible she decided to practice the religion her husband wanted for the children.

It states: " Interestingly, your haplogroup is also very significant because some specific lineages within this group constitute three of the four major Ashkenazi Jewish founding lineages. In fact, around one third of all Ashkenazi Jews trace their mitochondrial lineage back to one of four women, three of which lie within haplogroup K. Haplogroup K is found in 30 percent of Ashkenazi samples and in 6 to 7 percent of non-Jewish Europeans. While this lineage is found at a smaller frequency in non-Ashkenazi Jews, the specific three K lineages that helped found the Ashkenazi population are seldom found in other populations. It is therefore likely the case that individuals bearing one of these three lineages are Ashkenazi. However, individuals within haplogroup K that do not bear one of these three lineages are unlikely to have an Ashkenazi background. To learn more about your specific lineage within haplogroup K, you can opt-in with Family Tree DNA at the bottom of your results page where it reads, Learn More.
The term "Ashkenazi" refers to Jews of mainly central and eastern European ancestry. Most historical records indicate that the founding of Ashkenazi Jewry took place in the Rhine Basin where it subsequently underwent vast population expansions. In more recent times, the Ashkenazi population was estimated at approximately 25,000 individuals around 1300 A.D., whereas that number had increased to about 8,500,000 individuals by the turn of the twentieth century.
Around half of all Ashkenazi Jews trace their mitochondrial lineage back to one of four women, and your haplogroup K represents a lineage that gave rise to three of them. While this lineage is found at a smaller frequency in non-Ashkenazi Jews, the three K lineages that helped found the Ashkenazi population are seldom found in other populations. While virtually absent in Europeans, they appear at frequencies of three percent or higher in groups from the Levant, Arabia, and Egypt. This indicates a strong genetic role in the Ashkenazi founder event, which likely occurred in the Near East.
Today, K has given rise to three of the four most common haplogroups in Ashkenazi Jews and is currently shared by over 3,000,000 people. "
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[24 Sep 2007|09:00pm]

snazzy_spazzy
Hi, I just stumbled upon this community and was pleasantly surprised.  I found out early this summer from my maternal grandmother that her grandmother and great-grand parents were German Jews fleeing Nazi control a couple of years before the war began.   My grandmother always wondered about them; because they didn't observe anything but there were always suspicions.  She'd tell about the "German-style" cooking her grandma did and after she grew up her and her aunts found a kosher cook book and found EVERY one of her recipes.  Every once in a while I wonder how different my mom's family would have been if my grandmother's family had been raised Jewish; if I would have been taught to observe Judaism alongside Christianity because I am a non-denominational Christian.  The reason they didn't practice anything was absolute fear period.  They didn't want others know at all and I find that for lack of a better word terrible.  They fled to America where we have the wonderful freedom of religion and even with that as a basic human right they were terrified.

After finding this out I want to find out more info about holidays and traditions out of respect just on the fact alone that they were afraid to do so after they escaped Nazi Germany here in America.  I don't want others to think that its mocking or disrespectful in ANY way at all just pretending or anything.  Its just that part of my family would be observing the Holocaust Remembrance Day or Passover if they hadn't hid it b/c I see it as a piece of myself seeing as how they are direct ancestors.  Also to observe because they couldn't...if that makes any sense AT all.  Help would be appreciated.
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JewishGen [10 May 2007|10:53am]

fallingstar12
I just found a TON of relatives on my grandmother's side with this incredible website. I highly recommend it!! I'm uber excited!
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Family Members [03 Jan 2007|01:34pm]

fallingstar12
[ mood | curious ]

Are some of you researching your extended family as well as your direct ancestors? I've been researching my extended family for a while, and though its not terribly difficult to trace, I get more and more disheartened to see how people intermarry and lose their strong beautiful jewish roots. I know assimilation is inevitable, but it saddens me to see how the heritage dissolves.

I've been considering just nixing the extended family thing all together and just researching the ancestors (and perhaps their close relatives as well). I'm just wondering what everyone else is doing.

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Bragilevskiy, Vysotskiy,Korkin, Volfson(Wolfson) [13 Oct 2006|10:41pm]

nicholaeff
Bragilevskiy, Vysotskiy,Korkin, Volfson(Wolfson)

I don't know much about my distant ancestors , but I wish to find them too ... The story is :
In the end of 19 century were born:
In Ukraine Wolfson Esfir and Vysotsky Aron, after their marriage my great-grandmother Fenja(Feyga)Vysotsky was born in Dnepropetrovsk.
In Belorus were born Korkin Fanja and Bragilevsky Aron, after their marriage my great-grandfather Zinovy (Zalmand-Aron-Dovid) was born in Dnepropetrovsk too.
Fenya and Zinoviy have got acquainted in Komsomol Club in Dnepropetrovsk and in the same place their first child, my grandfather - Valentine Bragilevsky was born(1928), who later already in a youth studied in Moscow Aviation Institute and till now works at Antonov Kiev factory, he was one of those first designers who built the base of this factory and today he is one of the main designers there... Fenya and Zinoviy had daughter in Kiev, Svetlana Bragilevskaja(1937).
Svetlana had no children, but Valentine married Russian woman Nina and so Natasha and Igor Bragilevskiy were born... Well and further we, great-grandsons, appeared, but it's not so informatively... :)))

People, if you are my relatives - write me a letter, I'll be glad to make an acquaintance with you! We'll meet and drink coffee or wine and have a nice talk :))
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IAJGS Conference in NYC [06 Jun 2006|10:53am]

ahuva_thinks
Is anyone going to the IAJGS conference this August in New York? My room share plans fell through. Does anyone have a room and is willing to share (or rent floorspace)?

Thanks!
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South African Jews! [03 Jun 2006|10:40am]

fallingstar12
[ mood | hopeful ]

According to my mother, I have relatives on her side who live in South Africa (half of the family moved to America, and I guess the other half went there). The name is Rosenberg, which is like the Jewish variation of Smith...

I dont even know where to start.

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[10 Mar 2006|04:07am]
mekkah
Does anyone have information on Rozhnyatov, Ukraine? I am pretty sure I have pinpointed where exactly part of my family is from. I also now know they are part Russian as well, but this part of the Ukraine I am currently researching. Thanks! :-)
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helpful links [14 Sep 2005|06:08am]
mekkah
www.jewishgen.org

www.avotaynu.com


for German-Jewish surnames:
www.avotaynu.com/books/menk.htm
www.avotaynu.com/books/MenkNames.htm
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Trying to find out more about my family [12 Sep 2005|12:03am]

enocat
I'd like to find out of my grandmother was jewish or not.
She was born in Leningrad, her parents was killed by the nazis.
I'm not sure what year she was born, she was very young when
her parents where gone. She more or less was very shameful
and paranoid all her life. She was scared someone should
find out she was born in russia. So she escaped to Finland
where she met my grandfather. And then they moved to Sweden.
All her life she was scared of that someone would take her
away, and she was a very special grandmother. I'd like to
find out more. This is not at all popular amongst my relatives
who all now have swedish names and don't like to talk about
"the horrible past". I respect them all.
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