J not Jay ([info]justj) wrote in [info]hounds_of_hell,
@ 2005-03-02 16:20:00
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I did some quick research, and looked on animallaw.info... Here are a couple of the statutes in question (copied straight from the oregon law page on animallaw.info)...

OR ST 167.310 - 390
These Oregon statutes comprise the state's anti-cruelty laws. "Animal" means any nonhuman mammal, bird, reptile, amphibian or fish. Two interesting features are contained in Oregon law. First, it should be noted that the term "assault," which is generally associated with human crimes, is used to define certain crimes against animals. Second, animal abuse may be elevated to a felony offense if the act was committed directly in front of a minor child or if the perpetrator was previously convicted of domestic violence. There are two levels of animal abuse; animal abuse in the second degree occurs when person intentionally, knowingly or recklessly causes physical injury to an animal.and is a Class B misdemeanor. The more severe offense of animal abuse in the first degree occurs if a person intentionally, knowingly or recklessly causes serious physical injury to an animal, or cruelly causes the death of an animal. Animal abuse in the first degree is a Class A misdemeanor, but will be a Class C felony if the person committing the animal abuse has previously been convicted of two or more of the listed offenses (e.g., aggravated animal abuse and offenses involving domestic violence) or the person knowingly commits the animal abuse in the immediate presence of a minor child.


I think the very clear part of that is 'The more severe offense of animal abuse in the first degree occurs if a person intentionally, knowingly or recklessly causes serious physical injury to an animal, or cruelly causes the death of an animal.'


O.R.S. § 609.020
Dogs are considered personal property in Oregon.


I didn't look into it that far yet, but this part may be an issue for determining the civil court 'value' judgment, but I will have to find actual Oregon case files regarding this... that site has tons of case files regarding similar cases, I just have to find one from Oregon... Regardless, even as 'property', he is liable for damages...

As far as Oregon gun laws, so far as I have found, it is only legal to carry a gun in Oregon if you have a CCW permit (which seems pretty easy to get) so that would be something to look into... I don't know the actual county to be sure about how legal it was to shoot in the area, it is never legal to shoot on to your neighbors property...

All that said, I want to say that myself and [info]coral pledge the first $500 for [info]toxicblackheart to go toward whatever legal fees you have to pay dealing with all this... My intentions are to bring as much pain as possible to this 'person', that took your baby from all of us...



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[info]lovelydenial
2005-03-03 12:48 am UTC (link)
if we get this going ill pledge something too

JOHNNY COCHRAN if we have to, to get this fucker behind bars!!!


I think he needs to pay

for the dog
the vet bills
the fact that he was shooting TOWARDS a HOME
personal property damages
animal cruelty
punitive damages for psychological effects to the owners
pain and suffering(same)
wreckless endangerment(shooting in public area across property line**ppl in the home**)
damages to the pavement

ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF



<3

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[info]justj
2005-03-03 12:51 am UTC (link)
We WILL make it happen, we just need [info]toxicblackheart to be strong enough to lay the ground work... This is KILLING me, I can not imagine what they are going through...

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[info]aheadsuretospin
2005-03-03 12:58 am UTC (link)
If we get this going, count me in as well. I still can't believe it happened.

It also warms my heart to see how much of a real family this community is.

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[info]justj
2005-03-03 01:13 am UTC (link)
I'm not very active in it, but I tell people all the time that this is THE best dog community on LJ...It's the only one I actually 'view' on my friends list...

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[info]aheadsuretospin
2005-03-03 01:16 am UTC (link)
This and petbulls are my two favorites. I think they're the most informative with the least amount of drama. We have amazing members here. Just amazing.

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all mushy
[info]lovelydenial
2005-03-03 01:17 am UTC (link)
yea, it is very nice to see that whenever someone has a real problem in here we all have someone understanding to count on

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Re: all mushy
[info]justj
2005-03-03 01:28 am UTC (link)
the discrimination of our furpeople is something we can all relate to and gives us a common bond...

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[info]tikigoddess79
2005-03-03 01:03 am UTC (link)
If we all pledge something- that would help a lot! Even if it's $20..

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[info]justj
2005-03-03 01:14 am UTC (link)
I can say as someone that has collected donations for other things, every $5 counts when it's mulitplied by 291 people...

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[info]metalkat
2005-03-03 02:57 am UTC (link)
All you need to do is let me know when and where and I'll help, I can't offer much, but I'll send something... this really is terrible.

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[info]keshaphim
2005-03-03 01:28 am UTC (link)
We need to put up a Paypal button for donations.

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[info]justj
2005-03-03 01:28 am UTC (link)
That will be coming for sure...

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[info]norelevance
2005-03-03 02:30 am UTC (link)
I can't wait for this to take off... keep us posted on the donations dealy.

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I'm in!
[info]ex_moonliz49
2005-03-03 02:58 am UTC (link)
I can't afford much, but I'll spare what i can (when I get paid....)

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[info]dcsteph02222
2005-03-03 03:02 am UTC (link)
i definetly think if funds are needed there should be a paypal account set up so we can all help out

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[info]anais2
2005-03-03 03:07 am UTC (link)
Count me in as well....and accept my sincere sympathy on the loss of your friend. I simply cannot imagine losing such a dear one in this fashion.
This day has been completely devastating...I'm sure if we were all in Oregon, there'd be a necktie party tonight for that neighbor!

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[info]coral
2005-03-03 03:14 am UTC (link)
=)

Great idea babe! Like you said, lets get that bastard. I know that she probly isn't ready to deal with all the laws and shit but this may help her get moving in the right direction to get this man behind bars.

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[info]mom
2005-03-03 03:41 pm UTC (link)
I am with you guys on this. Just let me know what I need to do from my end. We have to take the bastard down!!

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[info]coral
2005-03-03 05:05 pm UTC (link)
Figured you'd also take this very hard. =( It's disgusting.

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[info]anaitis4
2005-03-03 04:11 am UTC (link)
I'm poor but if toxicblackheart will accept donations I'll try to save something up. This needs to be dealt with and I'm behind you guys 100%. I'll give as much as I can. Keep us updated.

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[info]kazee
2005-03-03 04:38 am UTC (link)
Here through Metalkat, I'm equally devasted about what has happened, though I do not know you personally. If I can help you in anyway way shape or form (whether it be finding loop holes to laws and such) tell me.

This makes my anger boil, what the fuck was this guys fucking problem?!

I miss the old days...an eye for an eye, and you harm someone elses animal and you get hung.

-bristles-

Like I said, if there's anything I can do for you, I will. We in Georgia have your back.

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[info]tikigoddess79
2005-03-03 05:38 am UTC (link)
The media should take some responsibility since they have the public terrified of pitbulls. I was thinking, and this is really 'pitaphobia.' I have to wonder if this were another breed if this still would have happened.

The media will probably be all over this- it might be better to hear it from the victims's side- [info]toxicblackheart before the media turns the story around..

I'm still baffled that this guy is so quick to shoot something. Anyone seen Bowling for Columbine? I hope he doesn't have a license or permit so can have even more charges brought up against him.

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[info]toxicblackheart
2005-03-03 07:14 am UTC (link)
oh my god.

i don't even know what to say.

i'm blown away and completely speechless.

i never expected such dramatic support, and yet at the same time i should have known better, this place is supportive beyond expectations.

i need to gather my thoughts...


WOW

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[info]lindseylatch
2005-03-03 04:58 pm UTC (link)
I did not realize that you were in Oregon, multnomah county? I have connections to the Animal Control people, although I remember you mentioned that you work at the shelter?
If so, I know the Crabbs, and I worked there a couple summers. I can certainly give them a call if you need anything from Animal Control.

And maybe a quick drive up there to kick some gun-toting ass...grrr

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[info]toxicblackheart
2005-03-03 05:33 pm UTC (link)
i'm down in So. Oregon, Jackson County actually. thank you so much, i never know when i just might need more back up with more AC officers. Thank you

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[info]pitbull_luvin
2005-03-03 07:35 am UTC (link)
i just read this, but i'm in too! i don't have much being in school & working part time, but i'll send as much as i can spare! <333

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[info]cutiebearkatie
2005-03-03 02:59 pm UTC (link)
Keep us all posted, I will give what I can!!!
That man deserves to suffer!!
Take care of yourself and Corona!

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[info]lindseylatch
2005-03-03 04:59 pm UTC (link)
What about the news? I know they aren't always unbiased when it comes to pitbulls, but maybe this would help to dispell the stereotype. And it would help to raise money, I'm sure. there are TONS of dog lovers in Oregon.

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[info]total
2005-03-03 05:04 pm UTC (link)
I'm all up in it. This absolutely disgusts me and I'd be willing to pitch in if you get it up and running.

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[info]noelcc
2005-03-03 06:06 pm UTC (link)
Let me know where to send money to for your legal expenses.

I have constant contact with the media through the advertising agency that I work for, but I have no resources in Oregon.

This story really needs to be told. I'll brainstorm and get back to you on this.

I am going to send this link to my friend who runs www.pitbullsaloon.com.

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[info]coral
2005-03-03 06:56 pm UTC (link)
I took a look at his website...it's hilarious. His 'cowpuppies' (love that!) are adorable!

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[info]phrustrated
2005-03-03 07:39 pm UTC (link)
I'm a poor college student, so I might only be able to give $10 or $15, but I'll definitely do that.

The last few days in Russian class, my prof has made some remarks about dogs in general, and how pit bulls and rottweilers are so evil, and I've given him (and subsequently, the class) a few lectures about how wrong he is.

And I've never even met a pit bull.

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