Shawn ([info]altf4osu) wrote in [info]geocaching,
@ 2006-05-05 16:49:00
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Geocaching police presentation
Well, I made two presentations this week to the local sheriff's office, well... One presentation, and today talked to one officer about it. He was the only one that showed for the presentation today. I'm disappointed since I was hoping to refine the presentation a little more, but I at least got to talk to someone and tell them about geocaching.

The presentation I'm trying to design is really to inform law enforcement about geocaching, tell them what it's about, that we're out there doing this, and specifically that there's no geopolice telling poeple to label their caches, no one specifically is out there policing what's IN the caches, and most importantly, this is what a geocacher looks like, so when they get called that someone is skulking around in the woods in their backyard, in the neighbors flower garden, or across the street in that vacant lot, the police have an open mind when I say I'm geocaching, and know to look for a GPSr, cache information, and loot for the cache.

The presentation still has more to go to really refine it, especially since I've only made one presentation with local law enforcement, but I guess I'll contact another agency and see if they'd be open to it. Part of my problem I think is that being in Oregon, birthplace of geocaching, most of the people I have spoken with have already heard about it, so they don't think it's needed for the rest of the staff.

As far as I know, the presentation was well received, and there were more people that wanted to hear what I had to say, it was just a bad day for them.

Anyone have ideas about it?

The presentation can be seen here:
http://oregonstate.edu/~tuckersh/Geocaching police compressed.pps




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(Anonymous)
2006-05-06 12:18 am UTC (link)
Wow -

That is a great idea. I know of many local cachers that have been questioned by the police. Maybe a little education about us would help to alleviate the problem.

Thanx!
Mike and Barb
At Jestcaching (http://www.jestcaching.com)

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[info]blue_comet
2006-05-06 02:12 am UTC (link)
It's pretty good, and definitely a great idea to be shared with other geocachers.

The news clips at the beginning seem to be disconnected... it's not clear what your point is with those. There's also a bit of a negative tone towards law enforcement, not sure if it's intentional or not, but you might want to be careful about that.

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[info]altf4osu
2006-05-06 06:19 am UTC (link)
Thanks for the thoughts.

Yes, the news clips are very disconnected, but all have to do with geocachers. The point of the news clip about the one under the bridge--> not a smart location without informing county officials.
The old man who passed away after slipping down a cliff while out caching --> geocaching.com can give searchers a start as to where to look during search and rescue missions.
The mention about the cache near the police station--> poor choice of location to hide an ammo can without 1) informing residents of the building, and 2) labeling clearly on the outside what it is.

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[info]blue_comet
2006-05-06 05:12 pm UTC (link)
It's not clear in the presentation why you've put them in there. You might want to provide some context within the presentation.

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[info]altf4osu
2006-05-06 05:23 pm UTC (link)
Well when I present, I talk about them, so therefore cover the why :)

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[info]cached41
2006-05-06 01:36 pm UTC (link)
Now where have I seen the urban geocacher before...

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[info]altf4osu
2006-05-06 04:25 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, it was a very useful image to show the officers what people have with them, but really, the main three things to look for.

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[info]cached41
2006-05-07 03:41 am UTC (link)
I don't carry stash notes - have technology for that.

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[info]altf4osu
2006-05-07 05:51 am UTC (link)
Ditto, cachemate is a wonderful little program.

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[info]af895
2006-05-27 09:24 pm UTC (link)
GREAT idea! A suggestion: in one of the slides near the beginning, calling law-enforcement "out of touch" may not win you friends among law-enforcement. Perhaps consider different wording for that part. ;)

A brochure would be a great complement to this presentation. Even if you couldn't show the slides, it would be a pervasive source of info and might get passed around.

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(Anonymous)
2006-07-24 03:16 am UTC (link)
A couple of the photos do not shed a good light on caching IMHO. The one of the guy standing off the side of bridge...in many places, accessing non-road surface portions of a bridge is illegal. And the one of the guy and his dog... showing off what is essentially a 'buried' cache.... violating one of the geocaching 'rules'.

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(Anonymous)
2006-10-09 02:31 pm UTC (link)
I feel as some other do... Don't provide any printed or other ammunition in the presentation such as the bad tales etc. Also, the point is well taken about "legality" of a cache position. The picture of the guy on the bridge is a No No from my point of view, and most likely too dangerous from many "LEO" and local law eyes. Be careful because your presentation does have merit. You might want to make it a bit shorther. A good rule of thumb is 15-18 slides or so depending on the material and content. keep it simple, to the point and clean.
Good job and the very best to you in your endeavor.
Trailbird geocachers - Florida

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