foto_decadent: All Black

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ecstasy_lover) wrote in

foto_decadent,
@ 2008-07-02 21:33:00

All Black

Editorial: All Black
Magazine: Vogue Italia
Issue: July 2008
Models: Liya Kebede, Sessilee Lopez, Jourdan Dunn, Naomi Campbell, Tyra Banks
Photographer: Steven Meisel

an entire editorial consists of 100 pages.

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	masculinitea 2008-07-03 01:23 pm UTC (link)
	these are ridiculously beautiful. (Reply to this)

	eygenson 2008-07-03 01:44 pm UTC (link)
	Охуенные!!!!! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	roy_ph 2008-07-04 12:11 pm UTC (link)
	+1 (Reply to this) (Parent)

	yala_agni 2008-07-03 02:40 pm UTC (link)
	1st time for lot of years i wont buy vogue italia... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	londonsound 2008-07-03 03:00 pm UTC (link)
	Why? (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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	thekingofme 2008-07-03 02:43 pm UTC (link)
	http://i052.radikal.ru/0806/85/2ee861b4a3bf.jpg What is her name?? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	critic_ 2008-07-03 05:20 pm UTC (link)
	Sessilee Lopez. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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	headfights 2008-07-03 03:11 pm UTC (link)
	it seems a bit ludicrous that theyre using tyra banks (Reply to this) (Thread)

	belle_minceur 2008-07-03 04:30 pm UTC (link)
	lolol i knoww (Reply to this) (Parent)

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	silencerecited 2008-07-03 03:53 pm UTC (link)
	didn't Tyra retire as a model? O.o (Reply to this) (Thread)

	simplylovely1 2008-07-04 12:41 am UTC (link)
	I think she did for VS. But once your a model can't ~really~ retire can you? lol. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	rushofblood94 2008-07-03 03:56 pm UTC (link)
	Can't imagine the amount of controversy there'd be if there was a shoot called "All White". (Reply to this) (Thread)

	londonsound 2008-07-03 04:04 pm UTC (link)
	Most shoots could be called 'all white'. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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	londonsound 2008-07-03 04:04 pm UTC (link)
	I really want to see the rest of this. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	yala_agni 2008-07-03 04:10 pm UTC (link)
	meisel became sooo dull, he shots awesome things at the beginning on 90-ies/ end of 80-ies, and now that`s sooo lame...that`s the reason to stop waisting money`s on vogue italia (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Make up your mind -

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Re: Make up your mind -

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Re: Make up your mind -

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Re: Make up your mind -

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	carteanegra 2008-07-03 04:12 pm UTC (link)
	Hate to say this, but most of you guys wouldn't be able to "appreciate the beauty" of a full-figured woman either. Nobody screams to discrimination then. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	yala_agni 2008-07-03 04:37 pm UTC (link)
	i dont understand why everyone is thinking about discrimination... i just havent seen any interesting black model in the industry, i hadnt tell about black in common (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

It's HOW you stated it -

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	volcanoandice 2008-07-03 04:24 pm UTC (link)
	They're pretty photos, pretty women, but extremely boring. For something that got so hyped up, I expected some amazing photos... so unless they're hiding elsewhere in the issue, I'm not impressed at all. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	bibermx 2008-07-03 05:00 pm UTC (link)
	I completely agree.Great models,bland treatment. O. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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rushofblood94, 2008-07-03 07:29 pm UTC

He wasn't FORCED -

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4minutedriveby, 2008-07-04 06:23 am UTC

i don't really agree -

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	easyassault 2008-07-03 05:41 pm UTC (link)
	i don't even know how to react to this. the title, the idea . . . what? (Reply to this) (Thread)

simplylovely1
2008-07-04 12:26 am UTC (link)

Yeah the title keeps throwing me off too! Everytime I look at the covers I feel like I'm reading "ANTM Contestant" or "ANTM Winner." What's the point? We all know there was going to be a all black model issue so why do you need to have that on the cover lol? I know this is a very big deal but I just feel sadden by it all because it's taken this long and I had a feeling that it might turn out a little distasteful. I can only imagine the next time something like this happens again, in the next three decades or so. I still can't see much change as far as equal oppurtunity for black models in the fashion industry. I hope I'm wrong but highly doubt it.

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	buymeponies 2008-07-03 06:41 pm UTC (link)
	not great, just ok (Reply to this)

	zebracrimson 2008-07-03 07:24 pm UTC (link)
	The third photo is just smokin'! Pun intended, but a gorgeous femme fatale may be boring fashion-wise to some, not to all. (Reply to this)

	x_grandemelones 2008-07-03 07:37 pm UTC (link)
	in the black and white photos, they have washed out the models' skin with the lighting. it's to the point where they look white. it's pretty pointless to try to show that black women are beautiful by washing them out and making them look less "black" I think the color pictures are really pretty though. are there more of those in the magazine? (Reply to this) (Thread)

gerrronimo
2008-07-03 09:23 pm UTC (link)

I agree about washing them out

Also, the shots are freaking boring. Just because they're being all ~*revolutionary*~ by using all black models doesn't mean their ethnicity can carry a boring shoot and inject life into it. They are relying too much on the concept and not focusing on the photography

And I wish they had just published the issue without making a huge deal about the races of the models within its pages. It would've been a more powerful statement if nothing had been said and the title hadn't proclaimed its intentions.

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	moonshapedscar 2008-07-03 08:39 pm UTC (link)
	These are quite unimpressive, and with such pretty models they could've done something way better. And they are leaving out so many gorgeous black girls it's a shame. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	198735168461328 2008-07-03 09:56 pm UTC (link)
	Read the text at the bottom. There are 100 pages of this... (Reply to this) (Parent)

simplylovely1
2008-07-04 12:13 am UTC (link)

I thought the photography would be better given all the hype about this issue. But the models are stunning! It's a bitter sweet moment because black beauty still isn't appreciated in the fashion industry. Still, the magazine is long over due! Sad that it has to take decades for just one black model to be on a Vogue cover, even more sad that the ~token~ black model gets the cover every time. I hope this open doors for other black models. I don't see why so many are excluded in the first place!

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	xoxmrskiedisxox 2008-07-04 12:34 am UTC (link)
	gorgeous ♥ (Reply to this)

Ok...here goes

joanshearer
2008-07-04 12:38 am UTC (link)

for those who think this issue is racist, do you feel the same about an all white issue? LOL...they are FAR more common.

Anybody who thinks Steven Meisel was FORCED into this is naive beyond belief. Do you have any idea of his POWER in this industry? The fact that this issue happened is a testament to it.

The fat argument is a lame dodge...sorry, but it is and you know it. Almost every objection to this that I've read here is a justification. Don't like it, don't buy it...

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	Re: Ok...here goes euoi 2008-07-04 01:53 am UTC (link)
	How is it lame? Not that I support the argument, just curious.. I thought it's pretty parallel. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	empiredownx 2008-07-04 01:12 am UTC (link)
	A. I don't think this is racist. B. I think the given photos are boring. C. I don't get why they made Tyra's skin look white as snow with makeup or w/e, and washed out the others with lighting. Kindof defeats the point of the theme. (Reply to this)

carteanegra
2008-07-04 01:39 am UTC (link)

English is not my first langage either so I might have been misunderstood. I just pointed out that people reacted very quickly when it came to "race", finding outrageous that somebody could not be able to appreciate "black beauty", but were not able to apply that to, let's say, other body types. As for yala agni, I think she's just trying to be a little bit provocative. Nice try.

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	yala_agni 2008-07-04 02:14 am UTC (link)
	haha) you get it) (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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melomane
2008-07-04 04:23 am UTC (link)

Though I wouldn't deem it 'racist', I think it's extremely difficult to make a statement against racism if they choose only one minority to grace their magazine. It probably would have been more effective to do photoshoots with a wide variety of ethnicities and to label it a "multicultural" issue rather than an "all black" issue.

But on the photos themselves, I love the black & white one with the cigarette; unfortunately, I'm a little blase regarding the rest, especially after all the hype.

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	mydarkminds 2008-07-04 07:16 pm UTC (link)
	i think that they are beautiful, regardless of anyone else's opinion (Reply to this)

	venus_in_fur 2008-07-04 09:27 pm UTC (link)
	I imagine wearing a veil must make smoking quite inconvenient, if the holes aren't sufficiently large!! I love how glam everyone looks. (Reply to this)

ghostbabies
2008-07-05 03:38 am UTC (link)

disgusting. so black people in vogue is supposed to be such an amazing and breakthrough thing that they have to have their own issue instead of just being intergrated with everyone else? "black" people are a normal thing, just like "white" people shoots or the shoot of any other race, not something that should be used to suggest ~*~*avant-garde-ness~*~*~. i thought society was over that stage.

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sweetz1
2008-07-05 10:56 pm UTC (link)

You have point, even though I didn't really see it like that.
I think that vogue having an all back issue really just emphasizes how bad the situation really is and sort of makes the lack of black models elsewhere much more evident. Like raising a spotlight on the industry.
It seems kind of early to decide though. I guess I'd have to wait until the next issue (of vogue and other magazines) to see whether this was just a gimmick or a real ploy for change.

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fawlty
2008-07-05 03:11 pm UTC (link)

At first I thought, good for them! This could be the start of something. It's not perfect, like simply integrating visible "minorities" into fashion magazines, but it's a start. It's also a reflection of the fashion industry today in that we have such a lack of models that are not white on the runways, in the edits, hired for big ad campaigns, etc. Thanks to Meisel for pointing that out in a very in-your-face sort of way.

Upon seeings these, however, I'm pretty disappointed. As many people have pointed out, the lighting has completely washed out complexion and skin tone. The black and whites should just be called whites. I'd be interested to see who made the executive decision to lighten these to the extent that they did. I might be picky, but I don't think white-washing the black issue (and good for them for blatantly titling it "Black Issue", no holds barred) is the step forward some of us were hoping for.

As for the very first poster, give her a break. She wasn't politically correct, but she's not ~*RaCiST*~. She just didn't like the five white-washed photos she saw here and decided not to spend the money on something that wasn't aesthetically appealing to her. I don't think people should buy this just because they feel it's the "right" thing to do. And I hope that wasn't Meisel or Vogue's intention. I think people should be just as critical of this issue as they are of any other.

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