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@ 2008-07-01 03:24:00
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Le diable au corps (devil incarnate)
Linda Evangelista by Steven Meisel
Paris Vogue june/july 1989

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[info]serialkiller
2008-07-01 10:01 pm UTC (link)
linda does no wrong, ever. bitch could be fierce in a tampon commercial.

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[info]zombie_mofo
2008-07-02 01:52 pm UTC (link)
LOL

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[info]andrew_sigurow
2008-07-01 10:14 pm UTC (link)
what a load of bull! why in the world is she squeezing her boobs?

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[info]ddvane
2008-07-01 10:49 pm UTC (link)
Her expressions look beyond fake in this editorial.

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[info]____minolta
2008-07-01 10:59 pm UTC (link)
not only fake, but they look like she's taking a big poo.. sorry, thats gross. but seriously.. 4th one down.

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[info]andrew_sigurow
2008-07-01 11:30 pm UTC (link)
you think it's ez to to drive out 'demons' this way? after all i know how Linda looks like when she's doing her business)

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[info]makemeapologise
2008-07-02 03:02 pm UTC (link)
HAHA my exact thoughts were: CONSTIPATED.

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[info]hyatchan
2008-07-04 11:53 am UTC (link)
iawtc

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[info]andrew_sigurow
2008-07-01 11:13 pm UTC (link)
i see neither appeal nor the slightest charm in these photos. sheer rubbish!

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[info]idance2anything
2008-07-02 07:19 am UTC (link)
Wow... I must say, I'm really surprised how conservative so many of these repsonses are. To begin with, 1989... this is an enormous affront the first age of the supermodel. It is also an affront to the notion of woman as sculpted, synthetic, plastic "surgery" doll. This is also extremely aggressive, and resonates with the very unnatural tones of the aerobics trend of the era. It also plays on S&M theme AND, in addition to that (not related, but also a question of control) the psychology of body image disorders.
Rubbish? I would hardly think so...
this shoot is transgressive and multivalent... there is a tremendous amount of response to timely social phenomenon right here...
It's too bad people are often only looking at these images for reasons of costume design, or art direction, or what is "hot"...
THis is why Steven meisel went on to do so many other great, and subversive bodies of work... with huge budgets, costume budgets, etc. THis is a shoot with one model and a wall... and it is still eliciting near visceral reaction!

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[info]andrew_sigurow
2008-07-02 08:11 am UTC (link)
don't take it out on people's sanctimony! so be it a plain conservatism or whatever, who damn cares? we're looking at the shapes and icons firstly. we appraise what the image expresses by itself. the average man may not be familiar with Meisel or Linda e.g. (it would be funny but still) and he/she may not get charged up about what Meisel's done and that he's such a great photographer. but he/she is able to feel such an art and it's all up to them to voice their opinions. they like it? ok. they just hate it? very good! talks on multivalency? leave this to highbrows. budgets?? spare my life! what business is that of anybody's?

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[info]idance2anything
2008-07-02 11:11 pm UTC (link)
"talks on multivalency? leave this to highbrows."

Huh? What is that even supposed to mean? I surely don't consider myself "lowbrow". But, that being said, if this community wants commenting/discussion that is short, snippy, and not-so-smart, then I guess that's fair enough
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" budgets?? spare my life! what business is that of anybody's?"

We're looking at photos generated for the fashion industry. Budgets are of paramount concern to anyone working in fashion whether its commissioning work or considering the impact of such work.

Spare your life... sure, I will do that... I'm nice that way.

ha!

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[info]moutonsnoirs
2008-09-15 07:38 pm UTC (link)
your synopsis on the editorial is very intelligent and the description of the elements in the photography make me appreciate the ed even more. Constipation was the farthest thought that came to mind when I first glanced at the model. some people can be too shallow and harshly critical of fashion editorials today, its no wonder photo shop is increasingly used by photographers.

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[info]idance2anything
2008-09-16 02:09 am UTC (link)
Thank you for your kind reply =-).

I don't think there's anything wrong with harsh criticism, but when it's not backed up with a valid argument and when it's lacking an understanding of context, then I think it's just a waste of air and/or keystrokes as the case may be.

Viva thinking!

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[info]mcherisson
2008-07-01 10:35 pm UTC (link)
I guess she is frustrated or something.. no no just kidding. She is such a good model, she can do everything and this proofs it!

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[info]spectacles_0
2008-07-01 10:55 pm UTC (link)
Well the editorial is called "Devil in the body" so I'm assuming she is frustrated for that reason? Aha.

TBH, I hate all of this.

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[info]sanchez_daniel
2008-07-01 10:49 pm UTC (link)
god i love this
even when she's trying to look ugly she looks good.

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[info]terrima183
2008-07-01 11:11 pm UTC (link)
Hello! Le Diable au corps! He/she/it's trying to get out of her skin. The devil took the form of Linda Evangelista and now he wants OUT! That's the premise. Sheesh.

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[info]andrew_sigurow
2008-07-01 11:15 pm UTC (link)
sorry but lol @ ur icon)) tee-hee!

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[info]terrima183
2008-07-01 11:17 pm UTC (link)
Hehehe Thanks ;)

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[info]flauschwolke
2008-07-01 11:37 pm UTC (link)
gosh. i hate it.

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[info]lunarius
2008-07-01 11:43 pm UTC (link)

she's magnificent.
thank you.

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[info]bibermx
2008-07-01 11:59 pm UTC (link)
The concept is good,but Evangelista has always appeared un-feminine and charmless to me.

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[info]ms_pinkprincess
2008-07-02 12:07 am UTC (link)
i don't like it as a fashion shoot. but she could be a great actress.

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[info]stellamccartley
2008-07-02 12:14 am UTC (link)
i had 2 make this in2 an icon

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[info]yala_agni
2008-07-02 02:35 pm UTC (link)
too fast

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[info]benson3
2008-07-02 01:41 am UTC (link)
Well while we all wash in the expected waves of toilet water opinions, let me just point out to you children that while you don't "understand" the shoot or approve of the model, Linda Evangelista is one of the most successful models in history. She was/is fearless and ever changing.


I also have to wonder what about L.E. makes her "appear un-feminine"? Could it be that she isn't flouncing around playing up to the typical Maxim stereo type of femininity?


This is not my favorite photo shoot, but it is worthy of viewing. Not only for the less than "ohhhhhhh that's ever so pretty" aspect of it but because of the clothing. Some of the finest Avant Garde cuts of the day. I have to wonder why in a fashion oriented community more time is spent picking apart the attributes of the models than saying anything at all relevant about the fashions?

So when did this community become MODEL HOT? OT NOT?


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[info]mo0neh
2008-07-02 05:52 am UTC (link)
+1!!

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[info]idance2anything
2008-07-02 07:24 am UTC (link)
Go benson3, go!

Please see my comment above so you know what I'm talking about...

For me, what's depressing about the model hot/not back n' forth is that the community is called photo decadent... I thought we were supposed to be appreciating excellent art direction, styling, social relevancy, and the historic context of images.

sigh...

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[info]rushofblood94
2008-07-02 06:20 pm UTC (link)
I agree with you. I'm sure anyone will agree that the shoot is certainly not pretty. But it's not meant to be aesthetically pleasing. Strange shoots like these distance the viewer (so they are not emotionally attached) and this is intended to make the viewer realize the message threaded through the piece - which is all about the stuff you mentioned in your first comment (the historical context).
This technique appears in music and theatre as well. This shoot was actually kinda groundbreaking as it sooo stands out from the [beautiful] yet typical fashion editorials. The shoot has clearly succeeded; just look at the controversy it has sparked on this site!

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[info]idance2anything
2008-07-02 11:07 pm UTC (link)
"The shoot has clearly succeeded; just look at the controversy it has sparked on this site!"

Precisely =-)

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[info]bibermx
2008-07-02 04:17 pm UTC (link)
Linda Evangelista appears un-feminine to me not in a derogatory way; it is just a personal opinion based on affinities:I am more of a Ruslana type of person, preferring a more ethereal look in women,even kawaii,to the strong and edgy emanation that Evangelista and other models exude: I respect her muchly,though. Regarding fashion,you are right:sometimes we miss the whole picture. In this post, I like Evangelista's leopard bra: it adds character to the shot.
And yes,this community is called ‛foto decadent‛ for a reason.‛ Decadent‛ meaning cadere in latin, ‛to fall‛ and may I add,‛to fall beautifully and slowly...‛

O.

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[info]killsurfcity
2008-07-06 12:52 pm UTC (link)
hear bloody hear.

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[info]empiredownx
2008-07-02 03:06 am UTC (link)
I really do love the outfits and I think Linda always looks great and does well in her shoots, although I think this totally missed the mark as far as meeting the concept. I get that it's supposed to look like she's, you know, fighting the devil or w/e, but it just doesn't.

Seriously, the cuts on the clothes are really interesting, though. In a way, I like that there isn't a lot to distract from them.

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[info]diana_16
2008-07-02 03:43 am UTC (link)
uhh. i really did think this was a guy. til i saw the breasts. don't like it.

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[info]spreadonlylove
2008-07-02 05:05 am UTC (link)
Personally, I am repulsed.

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[info]zebracrimson
2008-07-02 06:53 am UTC (link)
Me too. Judging from these pics, she's not a good actress, and forced ugliness in EVERY photo is both unappealing and uninteresting.

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[info]glaffira
2008-07-02 07:14 am UTC (link)
живая,самая красивая

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[info]volcanoandice
2008-07-02 07:45 am UTC (link)
Holy mother of holies, I wish I had seen this earlier when it first came out.


She is absolutely amazing. One of the best models in modeling history, hands down.

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[info]xnies
2008-07-02 08:43 am UTC (link)
absolutely hate this ;o.

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[info]allayne13
2008-07-02 10:09 am UTC (link)
The concept seems good.
But it's actually kindof scaring me.

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[info]funkybaby
2008-07-02 02:12 pm UTC (link)
awkward

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[info]callist0s
2008-07-02 03:24 pm UTC (link)
I like this shoot because she actually looks like a WOMAN, not a teenage slip of a thing. I like that you can see her muscles straining. She looks like a person, not a model posing and pouting for the camera.

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[info]electro_class
2008-07-02 06:43 pm UTC (link)
Linda is a miracle!
everything she wears are in second place...
her expression....so sweet even in ugly pose
love you linda

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[info]oontzgrrl
2008-07-02 09:24 pm UTC (link)
Damn I love Linda. She will always be fierceness personified to me.

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[info]silencerecited
2008-07-03 12:13 am UTC (link)
I love these.
They made me laugh,
in a cute way.

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[info]immortal_yogurt
2008-07-03 09:24 am UTC (link)
she's great!

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[info]reanimato
2008-07-03 09:59 am UTC (link)
not impressed

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[info]kevonmartini10
2008-07-06 07:34 pm UTC (link)
This is why everyone who remembers her heyday kisses her feet at any opportunity, for those of you who don't know.

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