kitty? ([info]kittymilkshake) wrote in [info]foto_decadent,
@ 2007-10-24 14:43:00
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I hope this wasn't posted... it's the first time I see it anyway
EDITORIAL: Make Love, not War
MAGAZINE: Vogue Italia September 2007
MODEL: Agyness Deyn, Missy Rayder, Caroline Trentini, Raquel Zimmermann, Julia Stegner, Daniel Pimentel, Blaine Cook, Chad Dunn, Chad White, Isaac Haldeman, Nathan Nesbitt, Oraine Barrett, Rodrigo Calazans, Travone Hill
PHOTOGRAPHER: Steven Meisel





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More at the source: http://fashionbox.17.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=927

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[info]anteriority
2007-10-24 12:57 pm UTC (link)
It was posted but it's been a few weeks so don't worry about it.

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[info]kittymilkshake
2007-10-24 01:12 pm UTC (link)
Oh, ok. I must have missed it somehow... :\

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[info]genissimo
2007-10-24 01:10 pm UTC (link)
these work better as a whole than as individual shots. but i love it, as a whole.

also, i like agynnes better when i can't see her hair.

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[info]ddvane
2007-10-24 02:26 pm UTC (link)
I can't even see Agy in the editorial :/ Is she just on the cover??

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(no subject) - [info]punktapepalmer, 2007-10-24 02:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]genissimo, 2007-10-24 04:26 pm UTC

[info]disassociation
2007-10-24 01:40 pm UTC (link)
yep, i remember making a gangbang comment on it last time around....

i still really like it, but yeah.....

(although i am sure there would be a few women who wouldnt mind being part of a large soldier sandwich)

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[info]paperdolldress
2007-10-24 02:44 pm UTC (link)
*shudder* not me!

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(no subject) - [info]disassociation, 2007-10-24 02:51 pm UTC

[info]allthingsgood
2007-10-24 01:54 pm UTC (link)
hated this the first time around and i still kind of hate it.

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[info]biomimetical
2007-10-28 08:54 am UTC (link)
Agreed, it doesn't matter what the artist's intentions were, it still came out distasteful. It's like saying, Oh, I didn't mean to hit the kid while driving, but in the end, you still killed him. This was bad timing for a shoot. Maybe if they had done it before war broke out.

But the fifth picture is very nice, I like it a lot as long as I look at it w/o regards to the whole shoot.

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[info]provochka
2007-10-24 02:23 pm UTC (link)
I really like it. I just find it funny that they used the old DCU's for the uniforms. Couldn't they find ACU's?

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[info]paperdolldress
2007-10-24 02:41 pm UTC (link)
this shoot is very well done, but it still disturbs me.

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[info]theskylines
2007-10-24 04:31 pm UTC (link)
saaaaaaaaaame

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[info]yala_agni
2007-10-24 02:55 pm UTC (link)
posted

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[info]luindilwen
2007-10-24 03:26 pm UTC (link)
As a woman, I really want to hate this shoot and the concept behind it. However, some of these photos are damn hot. I love the composition.

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[info]citrusoap
2007-10-24 03:31 pm UTC (link)
Agreed~

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(no subject) - [info]liiishaa, 2007-10-25 07:50 am UTC

[info]urbanfabric
2007-10-24 03:57 pm UTC (link)
this is very telling about our culture.
i like the tension between high art and primal urges.

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[info]chateau_
2007-10-24 04:06 pm UTC (link)
These are cool, but I think there is too much boobs shown.. Otherwise I'd love the one with Julia Stegner on the right

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[info]chateau_
2007-10-24 04:08 pm UTC (link)
I mean, for me, topless = tasteless & cheap way to make a photograph interesting.:(

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(no subject) - [info]spaceoperas, 2007-10-24 09:57 pm UTC
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[info]savia
2007-10-24 04:06 pm UTC (link)
The photos are technically very good - color, composition, the selection of the series, etc - but I still find the concept it captures patently offensive.

Ah, well.

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[info]shuraiya
2007-10-24 04:21 pm UTC (link)
I remember this being posted and I remember not liking it. :|

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[info]anewcliche
2007-10-24 04:25 pm UTC (link)
I like the concept of this but I think the nudity is a bit gratuitous.

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[info]knackard
2007-10-24 04:29 pm UTC (link)
I quite like these. They're different. And not as heavy-handed as this subject so often is.

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[info]theskylines
2007-10-24 04:31 pm UTC (link)
too disturbing

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[info]yeolderoad
2007-10-24 05:17 pm UTC (link)
these make me furious

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[info]mon_sucre_chat
2007-10-24 05:54 pm UTC (link)
me too :

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(no subject) - [info]fragileshell, 2007-10-24 08:49 pm UTC
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[info]iluvturkey12
2007-10-24 05:49 pm UTC (link)
um, sorry, it's been posted before. alas, i still love it.

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[info]schizophrenique
2007-10-24 06:23 pm UTC (link)
They're good, but...they offend me a lot. And that's not necessarily a bad thing in most cases, but this just really bothers me and I don't like it.

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[info]lucifersamekh
2007-10-24 06:48 pm UTC (link)
why the hell does everyone have awful tattoos all over the fuckin place?

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[info]natalie_faye
2007-10-25 02:18 am UTC (link)
Coz apparently everyone in the army has sikk tribal.

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[info]___light
2007-10-24 06:51 pm UTC (link)
I see it as they sent those soldiers in the dessert those prostitutes and that's it. It doesn't really offend me and even though I don't like gratuitious nudity I don't think this is the case. It almost is but not really.

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[info]fragileshell
2007-10-24 08:52 pm UTC (link)
What, it's not enough that the army uses pornography and prostitution to encourage violence in their soldiers, and real women have to pay the price for that - now they're trying to turn it into a fashion statement? Talk about being complicit in one's own oppression. These make me fucking furious.

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yeah, war is so glamorous and sexy.
[info]polyphosphate
2007-10-24 09:17 pm UTC (link)
Oh pardon me while I swallow my own vomit.
this shoot is in really poor taste, especially since there are people being blown to bits in *that* war as I look at these stupid fucking, selfish useless pictures. Maybe Meisel should go to Iraq and take photos there and put them on the cover of Vogue.
this is yet more proof that the fashion world has its head so far up its own ass that it shits out its mouth.

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Re: yeah, war is so glamorous and sexy.
[info]chasingskirts
2007-10-24 10:34 pm UTC (link)
agreed

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Re: yeah, war is so glamorous and sexy. - [info]lostlottie, 2007-10-25 12:06 am UTC
Re: yeah, war is so glamorous and sexy. - [info]mygoldenslumber, 2007-10-25 02:50 am UTC

[info]spinallandscape
2007-10-24 10:19 pm UTC (link)
I completely disagree. This photoshoot isn't about war, violence or prostitutes. It's about the freedom, youthfulness, and beauty in people and places where you think none are left to exist. They are playful, not tasteless. There is awe and beauty in the raw surroundings. There is awe and gentleness in the men and most of the women. In the shot where the soldier is pushing aside her strap, he is playful and timid, she is the stoic, serious black hole in the center of the image.

And somehow, in the pictures with more than one person doing 'questionable' things, none of them are raw and graphic. There is a stylized silkenness of the women that make them seem unreal and not a part of the world of the soldiers. Unlike other shoots posted here, I don't feel like the women are being degraded or abused. And there is obvious talent in the photographer and the art form, not just some guy wanting to pose obscene photos.

I dated a marine for 3 years, these pictures reminded me of the good parts of it. Not the bad. And I don't feel like they are irreverent in the slightest. The women seem like oasises to the men, tiny islands in the sand.

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[info]e_vocative
2007-10-25 03:28 am UTC (link)
wow, thanks for that; i can totally agree and appreciate this shoot even more. :)

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(no subject) - [info]kittymilkshake, 2007-10-25 10:51 am UTC

[info]timemachine
2007-10-24 10:42 pm UTC (link)
haha... those boys are way too pretty for the army.

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[info]anato24
2007-12-19 07:19 pm UTC (link)
i totally agree. the colors, the carefree vibe, the men are all gorgeous, however i wish they'd just throw a blanket over those boobie ladies. the pair on the model in the second shot looks like it can pop me eyes out...

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[info]llamazilla
2007-10-24 11:53 pm UTC (link)
very very interesting. I love the last picture. And I agree with spinallandscape, I don't think it was meant to be in bad taste either.

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