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rainejoybringer (

rainejoybringer) wrote in

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@ 2008-04-30 10:06:00

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Congratulations, FFR. We've managed to crush the spirit of a 12 year old girl...

I hope you're happy now. ~~Even if she is a little bit a of snot-nosed brat.~~

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	dv8nation 2008-04-30 12:17 am UTC (link)
	It's run of the mill internet drama. There's not much point in getting upset over this. Especially given the number of people who stomp off like this who don't stay away. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	rainejoybringer 2008-04-30 12:31 am UTC (link)
	Well, yes, but I still feel a point of shame that so many people were quick to jump on the bandwagon on this one. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	skinnyslim22 2008-04-30 12:18 am UTC (link)
	Never before have I wanted to give a poor kid a hug over the internets. ~~Even if, yes, she is acting like a brat.~~Talk about something potentially helpful turning into something completely hurtful. I am so ashamed of so many people right now. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	rainejoybringer 2008-04-30 12:32 am UTC (link)
	Some people were just really tactless in how they went about the whole thing. -.- (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2008-04-30 12:21 am UTC (link)
	And I suspect that most of those involved in this happening will either feel even more accomplished, or will justify themselves by saying "not my fault that little girl can't take a little criticism". (Reply to this)

	wyntir_rose 2008-04-30 12:27 am UTC (link)
	I'd've been tempted to call that a flounce if she wasn't fully justified in her anger. I have to wonder, are these people's dicks really so tiny that they have to bully a twelve year old to get off? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	rainejoybringer 2008-04-30 12:34 am UTC (link)
	Even after learning the kid was 12, people still went about it like she was the spawn of evil. Not an ounce of sympathy and trying to see things from her side. (Reply to this)(Parent)

tentationem
2008-04-30 12:53 am UTC (link)

I'm really pissed at whichever

fanficrants users flamed the poor kid. Bunch of fucking lamers.

Even if the kid really couldn't take criticism (something tells me that she probably can't, but, come on - she's 12), the answer to that is NOT flaming her and telling her that her fic is made of "epic fail". And in any case, the original review that spawned all this was NOT constructive. It was condescending and rude.

I hope nobody I like and/or respect flamed her...

Poor kid. =(

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	rainejoybringer 2008-04-30 02:14 am UTC (link)
	Heck, I've never really met a kid under 14 who can take harsh criticism on this kind of level. I'm proud of all the people who realised the stupidity and this and tried to encourage her. And even now as people try to do some damage control... I just hope it's not too late. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	thewayoutis 2008-04-30 01:01 am UTC (link)
	I am so pissed off about all of this. She changed her pen name to "A Disappointment to Everyone." I think she needs a million e-hugs. I'm PMing her, just to say sorry everyone's being such a fucking choad to her. Badfic isn't a cardinal sin, for christ's sake, and I don't see the fixation on chasing everyone who writes it away from the intertubes. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	dwh 2008-04-30 01:09 am UTC (link)
	Gahhh. When I was twelve, something like that probably would have sent me running for the hills, too. It takes a while to learn to brave the harsh straits of the internet, and I feel like she was completely blindsided by the dogpiling. Good job, people. Way to make the internet a wankier place. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	linear_flower 2008-04-30 01:26 am UTC (link)
	I left her a sweet "Don't quit" review myself, and will offer up any and all of my IM screennames to her, should she need it. The people that did this to her need to go DIAF and GTFO the Internet. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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minni
2008-04-30 01:56 am UTC (link)

Okay, that does it. -_-; When I become Supreme Dictator of the Western World in the next week or so, I am so revoking certain Internet Privileges. YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE BUT YOU ABUSED THEM ANYWAY.

Poor kid.
My baby sister was twelve years old when I helped her with her first story. If anyone had jumped on her like all these people did (because the story still had its faults despite my help; I mean gosh, she was twelve years old, but she didn't need to write like the college kid I was!), I would have hunted them down and ripped out that useless black lump of coal sitting in their ribcage, because clearly they have no use for it!

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	speaky_bean 2008-04-30 02:52 am UTC (link)
	Oh, the poor thing! This almost makes me ashamed to be a member of fanficrants. I left her a nice, supportive review too--hopefully she'll look at some of them and get the message. I hope she'll keep trying. Her problems are nothing she can't fix. Oh, god I just feel so bad for her. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	(Anonymous) 2008-04-30 02:53 am UTC (link)
	And on top of everything else, the ranter admitted that parts of this story weren't even true. ----->http://maiyri.livejournal.com/16497.html (Reply to this)(Thread)

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mizanchan
2008-04-30 02:55 am UTC (link)

Frick, what is wrong with people? I'm so disgusted by the so-called reviews that I saw on the first few pages there that I just want to start smacking these idiots. I know there are people who can be that cruel, but...damn! Why do they have to pick on a kid, for frack's sake?

If there is anyone made of epic fail, it's the losers who got their lulz by posting those "reviews". I weep for potential fanfic authors who are scared to try and write for fear of shit like this.

Seriously, FFR losers*. Grow the frick up.

(*Not intended to mean the entire membership of FFR. Just the idiots who went over there and delighted in tearing her to pieces.)

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	empressmaude 2008-04-30 03:29 am UTC (link)
	That poor girl.... seriously, that makes me want to cry for her. " A Disappointment to Everyone"? ;_; She must have really enjoyed writing( all those chapters. All that work she did), and people just ripped her apart because it wasn't up to their asshat standards. (Reply to this)

	kari_izumi 2008-04-30 05:30 am UTC (link)
	That's truly disgusting. I know from personal experience that this toolshed is far from representative from the majority of FFR, but I doubt that makes that girl feel any better. Ugh. (This is only the third time I've ever had to break out this icon in two years, but it's well deserved.) (Reply to this)

kazaera
2008-04-30 05:34 am UTC (link)

...oh god.

I think I might message her myself. To be honest, I am really impressed; I didn't start writing until I was fifteen, and I've never managed a long fic. Considering she's twelve, that's pretty spectacular - and heck, who /cares/ about the quality. She's having fun, she's young, give her a break.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid she really needs someone to hug her and tell her her fic is great. Which, well, it isn't. It's /fine/ that it isn't, but I don't think telling her "it's fine if your writing sucks right now" is going to help that much.

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iggy04
2008-04-30 03:24 pm UTC (link)

Mmm.

I remember attempting my first "fanfic" at 13. It was shit. It never saw the light of day.

Then I remember attempting my first "real" fanfic for fandom. Someone came by and gave me gentle concrit, and I retaliated by whining and throwing a fit.

There's no reason to throw a temper tanrum , but I was barely 14 and I had never gotten criticized before [for my writings]. I can only imagine what that 12-year-old feels like.

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	crimsong 2008-04-30 07:59 pm UTC (link)
	Out of curiosity I checked out the fic squad at ffnet. They had this "... helping a certain LJ user get banned from fanficrants since whenever their lovely mods got ban-ny. We'd like to say that we said she could use our 'crit' for her own purposes, and that it's really nothing to do with us at all. Got a problem? No? Good." Made me raise an eyebrow. (Reply to this)

(Anonymous)
2008-04-30 09:23 pm UTC (link)

I'm going to do this anonymously, just because I personally don't want to be bashed for this. Er...well...I don't mind people bashing me, but I'd rather have them not know who it actually is who they are bashing...if it makes sense.

Whether this was a science experiment or not...I think I'm the only person who didn't feel bad for the kid at all. Maybe I'm a heartless bitch. Actually, I probably am. Or, more accurately, an elitist. Either way, I didn't feel bad.

You know why?

Well, first of all, she obviously didn't want to take advice. Take the title for example. She could have spent five seconds to change it after all the people told her about it. Same with all the other "advice". Even if it was given rather sarcastically (which is the way I roll too- even though I didn't write that review), it was still a way for her to fix all her typos. Instead, she whines about how people are bullying her or whatnot. Obviously, she doesn't care about fixing her story- only about compliments.

Second, she put her fic out on the internet. What does she think the world is like? All kicks and giggles? People are going to be mean. People are going to be sarcastic. People are going to stab you in the back, step on you, and make you feel like shit. And you know what? She may be twelve, but if she's going to ignore the TOS and get an account before she's allowed to anyway, she's going to inevitably expose herself to the world. The sarcastic, mean, horrible, stab-you-in-the-back world. Welcome to reality, dear. Editors will do that. My english teacher will literally say that my writing is crap if it is. People aren't going to be nice just because you're twelve.

Finally, she is much, much too sensitive. I've gotten flames before telling me the even "sheep wouldn't want to have sex with [me]." What did I do? Nothing. I just kept writing. Like I said, the world is not nice. If she's going to give up every time she gets criticism (even if said criticism is sarcastic and rude), she won't get anywhere in life. The world is just that way.

So...that's my...er...rant/support/whatever. Call me a bitch, call me heartless, elitist (which I'm kind of proud of), arrogant, a cynist, whatever. I don't care. The world is too full of stupid, spoiled people. Reality sucks. The kid needs to learn.

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jade_wynds
2008-05-01 08:52 pm UTC (link)

So beating a bit of a dead horse here, but the person who did the social experiment/cover-up did apologize in a comment. However, that's not what worries me. If this was an experiment, where are the repetitions and control(s)? Ok, I can understand doing unpleasant things for science, but I'm definite that it is illegal to do an experiment on people without consent, and on top of making several people angry and a little girl cry, the data is useless. I mean no one is going to buy "In this experiment, we tested one subject with no controls. Our results were statistically significant. FIN." So, basically, WTF? Why did this even happen?

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sarajayechan
2008-05-02 08:06 pm UTC (link)

I just sent her a PM. Took a lot of self-control not to bash on the bullies who made her stop writing.

An apter username was never chosen.

Well, ADTE, I just spent over ten minutes reading parts of this "story", and let me tell you, those are ten minutes I'll never get back. Disappointment doesn't really cover it.

On your profile page, you posted:

"If you've ever burst out laughing in a quiet room, add this to your profile"

The answer is yes, ADTE. I just did. But it was the bitter laughter of a lost soul who has to laugh to keep from going mad from the overwhelming shame I feel in the face of this country's educational system's failure. And yeah, your personal failure to not write over 40 chapters of perfectly worthless garbage.

Did sixth grade Englush teach you:

Adding in "_'s POV" is proper writing?
Titles should always be irritating cliches?
This...is...proper...ellipse...use?
That's it's cute to shorten words in nauseating internet slang like "cliffy"?

Really, quitting is the least you can do. I'd like a formal apology.

I wish you could reply to shit like this, I really do. I feel the strongest urge to punch this twat in the face for being such a self-entitled shithole.

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lady_lovey
2008-05-04 10:05 am UTC (link)

Jeez, know how that girl feels, ever since that happened to me I mean i wouldn't mind if it was Constructive criticism, but it wasn't, I've more or less just Completely stopped writing , and It's completely shit me up, every time i get a message in my e-mails or a PM I get so nervous and kind of scared of what's it's gonna be,It's stuck to me to this day ...., {Sometimes i would think about it and just cry.. , I wish someone said what you said to her to me before it was too late, that's was really sweet:), I still need improvement, but i just really can't be bothered to write anymore for fear of getting burned... This may be the first time I've told anybody on here, I just get really upest about it :(.
(But i did just recently just cry it out to my Psychologist, It felt good to let it out.

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