. ([info]pixienat) wrote in [info]feminist,
@ 2005-01-23 18:42:00
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Math class.
I was in math class and a girl came i, and this boy who is rather "big", sits down to talk to her. He then says to her,"Your make-up is coming off". He said it with a rather rude intention. As soon as he said it, the entire class looked over to her face,to see if it was true. I didn't thoug, because I was trying to figure out exactly what I just heard. Am I the only one who thinks what he said was offensive?


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[info]cute_kitty
2005-01-24 02:54 am UTC (link)
It was certainly offensive, but why do you have to mention that he was "big"? One kind of oppression does not excuse another.

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[info]jackiesadork
2005-01-24 03:01 am UTC (link)
i was thinking the same thing...

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[info]goodlookinout
2005-01-24 03:31 pm UTC (link)
amen.

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[info]a_girl5000
2005-01-24 02:55 am UTC (link)

i dont understand your icon.

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[info]salve_regina
2005-01-24 03:24 am UTC (link)
i think it means she's anorexic

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[info]tropicalwahini
2005-01-24 03:50 am UTC (link)
your icon is awesome though

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[info]brienf
2005-01-24 03:40 am UTC (link)
[info]pixienat seems to think it's fun to joke about eating disorders, mock famous people who are recovering from them, and recommend aids for fat kids.

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[info]calebsdoodee
2005-01-24 07:33 am UTC (link)
She's also racist as seen here and uses "cunt" as an insult as in here. She also lists her birth year as 1899 (?) but talks of starting high school this past fall. Hmmmm...

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[info]teresina
2005-01-24 07:52 am UTC (link)
sounds like a winner....

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[info]angelvomit
2005-01-24 06:20 pm UTC (link)

I am uncomfortable with the fact this person is able to post here...

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[info]sacrificedtruth
2005-01-25 01:09 am UTC (link)
I've been saying something like that since she first posted in [info]prochoice

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[info]angelvomit
2005-01-25 01:53 pm UTC (link)


I wonder if anyone has reported her to the mods.

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[info]sacrificedtruth
2005-01-25 10:48 pm UTC (link)
Her other posts here havent been so offensive, but they have still bothered me. She never responds to any challenges on her posts which make her even more irritating.

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[info]kattlady
2005-01-24 04:00 am UTC (link)
apparently my eyes are worse than I thought, what does the text say?

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[info]nosmokegirl
2005-01-24 04:03 am UTC (link)
i cant read it either

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[info]a_girl5000
2005-01-24 04:04 am UTC (link)

she changed her icon.
http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/24917650/704412
was the prior one.

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[info]everwatcher
2005-01-24 08:00 am UTC (link)
That was a rather pointed move for her to make.

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[info]onthepage
2005-01-24 04:04 am UTC (link)
I can't read it either. But it looks like we're not missing out on anything.

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[info]trinityva
2005-01-24 05:14 am UTC (link)
(poss trig)

it reads: fuck food. i do it the mary-kate way.

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[info]the_living_end
2005-01-24 04:49 pm UTC (link)
it's the cover of a belle and sebastian album.

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[info]the_living_end
2005-01-24 04:50 pm UTC (link)
oh- i see she changed it? nevahmind.

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[info]vivacat
2005-01-24 02:56 am UTC (link)
i don't think what the guy said was offensive. who cares if her makeup is coming off? it must have been annoying/embarrassing for the whole class to look over at her, though.

on the other hand, i think your icon is very offensive. c'mon, that's just mean.

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[info]slytherinblack
2005-01-24 03:12 am UTC (link)
I agree... personally if my eyeliner was running or my lipstick was smudged badly (I don't wear makeup, but if I did) I'd want to know. Instead of...you know...walking around looking like a clown.

And the icon = NOT cool. Also, what does his size have to do with anything?

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[info]vivacat
2005-01-24 05:15 am UTC (link)
i like your icon, though.

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[info]slytherinblack
2005-01-24 05:31 am UTC (link)
Why, thank you. I'm quite fond of it myself. Though I've had it for awhile so am thinking I need to get a new one.

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[info]_stasha
2005-01-24 03:02 am UTC (link)
It was a dumb thing to say.. I'd assume he meant it like her eyeliner was running or something.

Not only is your icon offensive, it's quite triggering to me. Thaaanks for the nightly reminder.

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[info]amiamiami
2005-01-24 03:19 am UTC (link)
I second that.

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[info]vivacat
2005-01-24 05:11 am UTC (link)
that's why i said shit. if i were mary kate i'd be very angry.

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[info]subbes
2005-01-24 03:14 am UTC (link)

what

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How Rude!
[info]tropicalwahini
2005-01-24 03:46 am UTC (link)
yeah the whole "big" thing has nothing to do with the his comment.

unless you're saying generalizing and saying all big people are rude. which is just rude. I so need a Stephanie from Full House icon!

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Re: How Rude!
[info]vivacat
2005-01-24 05:11 am UTC (link)
yeah! that'd be funny. hahaha.

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[info]nosmokegirl
2005-01-24 03:57 am UTC (link)
not offencive, but kind of rude. since it was a loud voice, and generally people don't like their appearence nitpicked for all to hear.

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[info]pinkdove80
2005-01-24 04:27 am UTC (link)
I don't wear make up but if I did and it was smudged I'd want to know. How did the girl react? Was she offended or did she pull out a mirror and fix it? You might be overreacting.

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I agree
[info]goddessdragon
2005-01-24 12:05 pm UTC (link)
Actually, I agree. If the boy said it loudly, with the intent to attract attention, then its rude. He could have whispered it, said it soft, just so the girl could hear. He didn't. If the class turned to look at the girl, then he did it to be rude, and place unneccessary attention on the girl.

Oh, and I took "big" to mean popular.

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[info]jfpbookworm
2005-01-24 01:56 pm UTC (link)
Well, we can't exactly judge "with a rather rude intention" here.

Saying "your makeup is coming off" is not the sort of thing I'd consider rude per se; it's more the equivalent of "your fly's open" or "you've got something between your teeth." If the guy's saying it loudly enough for the whole class to hear, that's a bit rude.

Regardless, I don't see how it's an issue that involves feminism.

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[info]goddessdragon
2005-01-24 04:25 pm UTC (link)
I say its an issue that involves feminism because a woman would never tell a man loudly, for a class to hear, that his fly was open. Sure, a few people on this community would, but in general, women are sensitive to other's needs. We're discreet, and polite.

Misogyny is a subtle art. As feminists we look to change the world around us. There are big battles (reproductive rights, equal pay) and then there are littler day by day battles (a waitress who is called "honey," or "sugar," giving girls equal time in the classroom). Pixienat has only given an example of the day by day inequality. Small changes feed bigger changes.

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[info]two_stabs
2005-01-24 05:18 pm UTC (link)
If you're saying women are intrinsically discreet and polite and passive, how can you get upset by inequalities, since having traits like those ascribed to one sex are a one way trip to the land of gender division?

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[info]goddessdragon
2005-01-24 05:23 pm UTC (link)
Good, you picked that reference of gender divsion up.

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[info]jfpbookworm
2005-01-24 05:21 pm UTC (link)
I say its an issue that involves feminism because a woman would never tell a man loudly, for a class to hear, that his fly was open. Sure, a few people on this community would, but in general, women are sensitive to other's needs. We're discreet, and polite.

Sorry, I don't buy that (seen it happen enough times, for one thing).

Some people are rude, others aren't, and while it may be true that (a) women face more social pressure to be inoffensive, and that (b) in a high school setting, makeup is almost exclusively worn by women, I still disagree that (absent some other aspect of the situation which was not revealed to us) pointing this out constitutes misogyny rather than "merely" general rudeness.

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[info]500ml
2005-01-24 03:11 pm UTC (link)
Wow, yeah it's super rude!

Next please?

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[info]crowjane
2005-01-25 03:08 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, he was rude... but what does this have to do with feminism?

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