Helen W. ([info]wneleh) wrote in [info]fanthropology,
@ 2008-05-03 13:58:00
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Media references to fanfic, the week ending 5/3/08
First up this week (and my favorite): [info]mercuryblue144 pointed me to a story in the Daily Mail by Daniel Boffey about the inclusion of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone on the list of required books for English students preparing for the A-levels. What's of interest to me is that students will also have to write their own 500 to 800-word story inspired by the book.

Also, [info]mhari pointed me to a story on AlterNet by John Gorenfeld about Love and Consequences, the faux memoir by Margaret B. Jones. Gorenfeld wrote In the world of Internet fan fiction -- in which amateur fans of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and other shows imagine new adventures, they have a derisive term, the "Mary Sue Story," for wish-fulfillment that crosses the line. That's when a certain kind of fan breaks the rules and makes herself the hero, fascinating everyone, saving the world. This story, about a white girl who makes black people happy by escaping from their ghetto, is a Mary Sue story about race. And people ought to be upset that it passed for realism.

And [info]coaldustcanary alerted me to a story in TIME by Lev Grossman about on Stephenie Meyer, author of the Twilight vampire series: Her books are big (500-plus pages) but not dense--they have a pillowy quality distinctly reminiscent of Internet fan fiction. Pillowy??? I can't speak to Meyer's writing, but mine isn't!!

Another reference related to Meyer's books appeared in Willamette Week (which bills itself as Portland, Oregon's News Weekly). Byron Beck wrote about Lisa Hansen, and her website TwilightMOMS, which features forums full of recipes, exercise tips and fan fiction.

Jim Ridley had a review of the new film Son of Rambow in The Village Voice in which he wrote [writer and director Garth] Jennings finds a tone here that's more winsome and less desperately wacky than his film version of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, especially as the movie-within-a-movie mutates into quirkily revealing psychodrama. Will and Lee's escape into cinema proves contagious, and the project—kids acting out the playground equivalent of fan fiction—quickly overturns their school's hierarchy of cool. IME, half of all playground play is fanfic; some of my fondest memories from grade school were of being cast as Planet of the Ape's Cornelius.

And what do you know? PotA fanfic isn't for seven-year-olds in 1973 anymore, as this blog post by Robin Abrahams on the Boston Globe's website shows.

In other news... in Japan's Daily Yomiuri, staff writer Kanta Ishida had a story about the evolution of Astro Boy. The whole article is pretty interesting, and worth a read; I particularly liked the sushi analogy.

There was an article in The Brookline Tab by Neal Simpson about web-to-book author Jennifer Sampon (who I can't find at Amazon, so I'm wondering about what form her book is actually taking). Samson began writing the series in 1998 and didn’t stop until 2005, long after she’d dropped out of college and began caring for her legally blind grandmother. During that time, she launched a second Web series, called “Sandy Cove,” and began writing fan fiction, or stories based on the characters and settings of popular authors. Um, Jennifer, if you read this, can you say 'yo'?

Finally, In Hamilton, Ontario's Raise the Hammer magazine, Ryan McGreal had an editorial about media ownership in which he wrote More recently, the advent of the internet has made it possible for many more people to create their own content and share it - essays, musings, photographs, cartoons, videos, fan fiction, reports, tools and applications, code snippets, and cutesy pictures of cats superimposed with cutesy text written in pidgin (I CAN HAS LITE RALE?).


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[info]yourlibrarian
2008-05-03 06:58 pm UTC (link)
This story, about a white girl who makes black people happy by escaping from their ghetto, is a Mary Sue story about race. And people ought to be upset that it passed for realism.

That's a wonderfully put criticism.

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[info]pandorasblog
2008-05-03 08:22 pm UTC (link)
It is; I never thought of it before, but that woman's book was very Sue-ish. Also nice to see a media reference to fic in which they don't muddle the terms up or miss the point.

As for Harry Potter being on the A-level syllabus... I love the books, but it's just more pandering and fear of the students, like when they scrapped the GCSE French oral.

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[info]wneleh
2008-05-03 08:37 pm UTC (link)
I liked the Mary Sure ref too; I'm pretty sure the author knew the term.

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I'm of several minds about the HP thing. If the purpose of the A-level exams is to see how kids can write, it makes sense to base it on books they are likely to have read, vs. read about. IOW, it's no great feat to get kids to read one more ponderous work from the English Language Canon (or not read it, and say they have), but it *is* a trick to get kids to really engage material; to get them to think and respond.

OTOH, HP is pretty darn linear, and I'm just not sure a book readable by bright first-graders and average fourth-graders is suitable for an exam for highschoolers.

What's an GCSE, btw?


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[info]pandorasblog
2008-05-04 04:56 pm UTC (link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Certificate_of_Secondary_Education
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Level_%28UK%29

My feeling about it is that it's strange to have creative writing as coursework in English Literature to begin with; when I did my GCSEs it came up only in English Language (there's no Eng Lang at A-Level). In Eng Lit they need to be able to clearly express their understanding of a text (themes, character development, plot, etc.), and to do so using good grammar etc.; it's more about an academic understanding of a text than creativity.

I'm not saying set texts have to be ponderous stuff from the Canon, even... more that A-Levels should involve reading that's more rigorous and challenging - this is the qualification that decides if you get a university place. If they aren't doing so already, I'd like to see them use a quality post-war novel, and I'd have no objections if it was a genre piece (would be nice to get one of the dystopian future novels in there, if they're not there already).

I do understand the temptation to use Harry Potter to get them into questioning a work and looking at themes, plot etc, though... if there's one problem that seems to be universal in education, it's the fact that a lot of people are enormously turned off by having to analyse a book at all. I've spoken to so many people who can't abide To Kill a Mockingbird or Of Mice and Men or Shakespeare in general because they had to dissect it in school. I was one of the people who loved that stuff and could never stop doing it, which probably explains why I loved fandom so much when I discovered it.

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[info]wneleh
2008-05-07 10:04 am UTC (link)
It is odd how you can develop an aversion to an author from having been forced to read him or her as a teenager. I *liked* English, and I kinda never want to read any Dickens or Hawthorne again, ever. There doesn't seem to be an equivalent for other subjects - nobody covers their ears and humms when you mention covalent bonds because of not having cared for chemistry (I don't think...) You see plenty of math aversion, but it's usually blamed on ones teachers or ones own brain, not on polynomials or Pythagorus or what/whomever.

Thinking back - the authors I really don't want to ever read again are the ones I studied in 9th-11th grade. I had a pretty good time in HS - well, actually, I loved it, am I allowed to admit that? - and I really liked my English classes. I liked analysis, I enjoyed writing the essays.

But - lit makes you think. I remember hitting my head again and again against "The Scarlet Letter" and JUST NOT GETTING IT. Nobody's actions made any sense to virginal-sixteen-year-old me. And at least "The Scarlet Letter" ends somewhat happily IIRC; what Ethan Frome? Gahhh! I was surrounded by kids with issues, and now I have to read about people sledding into trees and making each other miserable for forever??

But, come 12th grade (during which I turned 17), I stopped having that reaction. I got a D-- on my essay on circular themes in King Lear and I still would happily watch the play. I kind of fell in love with Dostoevsky; read more Faulkner than I had to; and ended up reading War and Peace for recreation after reading a bit of Tolstoy. And the lit classes I had in college were great, and, again, I've read more of authors I was introduced to in them. Not all authors, because some interested me more than others. But the revulsion isn't there.

So - I think it's a function of personal maturity - the older I got, the more I had the personal experience to bring into lit analysis. Even things I'd never done, I could begin to imagine someone else doing. And there was just a lot less adolescent angst going on around me.

(It might be interesting to do some lit analysis now that I've been writing a while, because I don't think I ever really got that stories are constructed, not just told. BID.)

- Helen





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[info]pandorasblog
2008-05-07 11:51 am UTC (link)
See, that's a good point: there may be some books which are inherently unlikely to get a good reception from very young people. I know that many people in my year felt an aversion to Hard Times; I suspect a lot of people picked Jane Eyre for their coursework that year because it was more accessible and they were more likely to have picked up something of the story already through TV adaptations.

It's interesting how you point out that we don't have this phenomenon of people being turned off other subjects for life. I think that the difference with reading is that it's something we also do for pleasure in daily life, so for some people it feels like school has encroached on that pleasure and made it work.

Now I think about it, there are some other subjects where people can be turned off, and they're all activities which people might have reason to do in life in general: PE (I think a lot of teenage girls particularly get put off exercise by communal changing facilities and unsympathetic teachers), music and art... a couple of years ago I became acquainted with a woman in town who runs art activities for kids outside school, and she felt that all kids enjoy drawing up to a certain age; then they start to compare themselves to others and feel that they 'can't draw', because it's become another competitive school activity. And I know that my natural enjoyment of music got stamped on at school when a teacher had no interest in helping those of us who struggled with the theory...

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[info]yourlibrarian
2008-05-03 10:50 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I found it interesting that creative writing was expected. Thank heavens I was never asked to fanfic Hemingway or Faulkner.

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[info]wneleh
2008-05-03 11:06 pm UTC (link)
Where I'm confused is, with all the information given ahead of time, how is anything other than test prep being evaluated?


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[info]pandorasblog
2008-05-04 05:03 pm UTC (link)
A-Levels in Eng Lit aren't primarily about information recall; it's about making a literary analysis of the text and being able to communicate your understanding of it clearly. The marks for an A-Level are partly from coursework (done at home during the months of study) and partly from an exam.

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[info]wneleh
2008-05-07 09:46 am UTC (link)
I'm just thinking that, if the exact questions where known ahead of time, the well-to-do would come into the exam ready to spew out a professionally-crafted answer. Well, at least in the U.S. this is what would happen - kids get professional help writing essays for college applications, for example.

- Helen

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[info]pandorasblog
2008-05-07 11:45 am UTC (link)
One problem that does happen is that people are increasingly getting coursework off the internet - since certain books are regularly set texts on the syllabus, certain themes for coursework can recur and people will upload their old coursework online or even get paid to write coursework for current pupils. Plus some of the parents are a big problem, from what I understand - coursework being done at home means that the kind of parent who lives through their kid's school success is sometimes tempted to cheat...

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[info]wneleh
2008-05-07 11:51 am UTC (link)
coursework being done at home means that the kind of parent who lives through their kid's school success is sometimes tempted to cheat...

So by 'at home' you really meant 'at home', not at school.

Yeah, that scans as really problematic to me. I know that *I*, as a parent, have issues with this now. There are complicating factors, but those aren't exactly rare.


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[info]wneleh
2008-05-07 10:08 am UTC (link)
scrapped the GCSE French oral

When I google "GCSE French oral" I get some hits... did it used to be required?

- Helen, monoglot

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[info]pandorasblog
2008-05-07 11:54 am UTC (link)
Yeah; it was a standard part of the examination system until very recently.

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[info]wneleh
2008-05-03 11:07 pm UTC (link)
Yeah; and I'm pretty sure the writer knew what a Mary Sue was beforehand.

I wonder if this is that start of a wider use of fanfic terms in society?

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[info]ravenbell
2008-05-03 08:41 pm UTC (link)
That should be "Son of Rambow," not "Rainbow." The movie's about a kid finding his inner Sylvester Stallone.

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[info]wneleh
2008-05-03 08:47 pm UTC (link)
Guh, I guess I had season one of SGA on the brain!

Thanks. Unfortunately, I don't know how to edit posts to this comm.

- Helen

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[info]wneleh
2008-05-03 08:50 pm UTC (link)
Duh, Helen, it's the little pencil icon. Seriously, it wasn't there last time I wanted to edit a post here!

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[info]orphan_ann
2008-05-03 10:39 pm UTC (link)
I was sceptical about the Harry Potter article at first; none of the broadsheets had noticed it, and you'd think the Telegraph at least would kick up a fuss about it. But it's legit; here's the breakdown - notice the company it's keeping...

This is one of the most pathetic indictments of the British schooling system I've read in a long time. *Gets off old-fogey horse*

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[info]orphan_ann
2008-05-03 10:41 pm UTC (link)
That link should go here: www.aqa.org.uk/qual/gce/pdf/AQA_W_2725_ROADMAP.PDF. I can't work out how to turn it into a proper link, for some reason...

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[info]wneleh
2008-05-03 10:45 pm UTC (link)
This should work.

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[info]orphan_ann
2008-05-04 09:12 pm UTC (link)
Thanks. (But I still don't know what I was doing, because I didn't put the livejournal bit of the address in the link - weird, huh?)

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[info]wneleh
2008-05-07 09:44 am UTC (link)
I've had that happen to me before - I think, if you don't include the http part, it thinks you're referencing something on-site? Or something?

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[info]fandrogyny
2008-05-04 11:10 pm UTC (link)
Am I the only one who would like a tag for these entries so that they can be easily identified for future reference? (Apologies if this issue has been brought up before.) There's a lot of great indexing here, and I just know I'll need to refer to the content again at some point.

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[info]wneleh
2008-05-04 11:28 pm UTC (link)
By tags, do you mean LJ tags, or some other kind (like del.icio)?

I've thought that myself. But... how do I put this? I have this thing about order. I need a certain amount, but too much makes me physically uncomfortable, and the line between these is thin and convoluted.

I also have absolutely no memory, and learning new stuff is hard. I can program, I can derive from scratch, but remember how to do something, or what I CALLED something? Very, very hard.

Tags have, up to this point, made me go "No no too confusing too much order!!"

I blame society.

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[info]fandrogyny
2008-05-04 11:41 pm UTC (link)
I meant LJ tags, but the others could work, too. LJ tags seem as though they would be simpler, because it's only a matter of typing a word or phrase in the "tag" field while posting the entry. That way when we go to fanthropology/tags/____, we can see a list of all the entries saved with that tag.

Alternatively, mods can edit tags, too.

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[info]wneleh
2008-05-04 11:55 pm UTC (link)
I just edited the post to add a tag and nothing changed :-(


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[info]delurker
2008-05-05 01:59 am UTC (link)
I wonder if we're only allowed to tag posts with existing tags? We should ask [info]dragonscholar or [info]sailormac to make a tag, and then I think tagging should be a breeze. :)

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[info]fandrogyny
2008-05-06 09:37 pm UTC (link)
Hmm. I'm not sure if there are mod limits on tagging -- Dragonscholar would know. I'll ask.

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[info]wneleh
2008-05-07 09:42 am UTC (link)
That would be great! Thanks.

- Helen

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