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Do It Every Day

  • Apr. 11th, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Cross-posted from The Midnight Hour

In the same vein as yesterday's rant about doing the damn work, I thought I'd approach what I see as the single biggest difference between real writers and people who just like to call themselves writers for a variety of reasons. I call it discipline, but it's really something simpler. It's Doing It Every Day.

You absolutely cannot hope to come up consistently with a readable product if you don't write every day. You also can't expect your discipline to tide you over if you're not in the habit of doing it every day.The conventional wisdom is that it takes ninety days to make (or break) a habit, and habit is what your sitting-down-to-write must become.

Human beings are creatures of habit--I'd go so far as to say we specialize in it. It's such a powerful tool that we must be careful of it, and learn to use it consciously--or, I firmly believe, it will use us. Habit can be a best friend (when you're tired and you need some other motivation to sit down and bloody do the work) and worst enemy (when you've gotten into the surfing-for-just-a-few-minutes trap.)

I can't leave the question of habit without talking about timesuck. Timesuck is a habit run amok, something that keeps you from what you should be doing. My big timesucks are CatLOLs, Smart Bitches, and my f-list. (There. I've admitted it.) Easy bite-sized chunks of stuff that add up to hours per day--if I'm not careful.

There is a very simple, easy way to help a good habit settle in and keep a bad one in check. You can even buy it at the grocery store.

It's a kitchen timer. No, seriously.

I consider cheap, portable kitchen timers God's little gift to writers (along with commas and italic type, but that's another post.) Set it for a short amount of time and give your chosen timesuck your full attention. That way you won't feel deprived when it rings and you have to go back to working. Set it for a slightly longer time and write. No day is so busy you can't find ten minutes to write, and the timer relieves you of the responsibility of watching the clock. It also teaches you to sit down, cut out the sh!t, and produce.

But there's that critical component called Doing It Every Day. Sadly, there are no "tips" or "tricks" for this one. It must be sheer bloody-minded stubbornness. You have to want to do it, and want it badly enough that you will sit down and bloody well write even when you're tired, or not feeling well, or when you just don't want to do it again. The prospect of getting a paycheck motivates people to show up for their day jobs. You don't have that prospect in writing, really--or you have that prospect so infrequently as to be a laughable excuse for motivation. So the motivation to write has to come from somewhere else. I don't care where you find it, but you've got to find it somewhere or the whole experiment is doomed.

And you must, absolutely must, do it every day. Like anything else, writing demands practice. It's that practice that hones your craft. (Along with reading, but that's a different blog post.) Doing it every other day or once a week will not wash. If you do it every day, several things happen:

* You give yourself the clearest possible signal that this work is not going to go away, and that you are committed to it.

* You bolster the habit of just sitting down and putting your hands to the effing keyboard.

* You give yourself the opportunity to practice hard enough and long enough to start producing readable product.

* You give your writing a priority to match other priorities in your life.


This last one is where my sticking-point is. Too many folks who call themselves writers allow other parts of their life to put writing on the back burner, and that cannot happen. They say they need quiet to work, and as soon as they get that quiet place they'll Produce A Masterpiece.

Bullsh!t. If you can't work with distractions going on around you, you're never going to make it as a writer. I work with two home-schooled kids under twelve underfoot all day, the doorbell ringing, phone calls, and a kid to drive to college three times a week. Plus there's errands, volunteering at the bookstore, cooking dinner, laundry, and a whole host of other things.

I figure I could work in one of those seventies-era movie newsrooms. You ever watch All The President's Men? Remember the phones ringing, people yelling, distraction pouring through the air? Yeah. Like that. If you do not exercise your ability to focus through those distractions, you won't make it. Your time to write will expand in proportion to the importance you attach to writing and the gods-honest priority you give it.

It really comes down to a simple question. Is writing important enough for you to make it a priority and spend the work and time to do it every day through the distractions? If it is, great, sit your butt down and do it. Set your timer. Chain yourself to your chair if that's what it takes.

If it's not, great. Find something else to do with your time. Gods bless you on your journey.

But please don't call yourself a writer. This is hard work, and if you're not going to do it...well, you don't need that title.

'Nuff said.

Comments

[info]wandereringray wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 06:02 pm (UTC)
Awesome posts.
[info]amsaph wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 06:10 pm (UTC)
I couldn't have said it better. I do home daycare and have two kids of my own--4 and 1. I also have a horse to train and keep up the house, but I find my time to write, EVERY DAY. The habit is so important. I write at nap time and after my kids are in bed, same time every day. My mind turns on at those times and the words flow. Sometimes it's only a couple hundred, other times I can put out almost 2K in those couple of hours I have. Sometimes I go to bed later because the creative juices are really flowing. But I make the time and stick to it.

A friend of mine always marvels that I can get so much done and still have time to write. I tell her it's a matter of priorities. I also have a very good husband who understands that I need my writing time. He still gets his time ;) As wives and mothers we have a lot of demands placed on us, so setting priorities with routine is how to get it done. That friend, btw, has started resetting her priorities to get back to writing.

And you're right about timesucks. I usually give myself a little time for those, but when I'm working on a project, I skim over my usual lurks and flisters just to see what's going on. I just don't say much because my mind is elsewhere.
[info]aeddie wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 06:18 pm (UTC)
It's not just for you wonderful people who write stuff I enjoy reading.

I'm a freelance writer who mainly does copy for a tech website. I know what I have to write each day in order to make enough to pay the bills, and to make my goal for the year.

I'm at my desk every morning by 9 and write straight through until lunch. If I've been productive enough I'll do household projects in the afternoon, if not, I spend the afternoon writing.

When I get to putting the ideas down on paper for a story then the same discipline will apply.
[info]silenceleigh wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 06:34 pm (UTC)
I would add to your list that writing every day sends a signal to the people around you that writing is important, it's not going away, and like everything else it needs to be worked around.

I do have to occasionally say, "No, i can't do x with you right now, I need to write".
[info]green_knight wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 06:47 pm (UTC)
'Write every day' is good advice for some people, and lousy advice for others. I write most days, but when I'm braindead enough that I stare at a file and it doesn't make sense, I go away and spend my time more productively, wehn I have a difficult bit and am about to write myself into a corner I go away and work it out so that it is _right_, and when I'm stressed and working very hard at other things, I don't load guilt upon myself that I haven't written.

I didn't write much last week. I played a scene out in my head that doesn't even belong to a book I'm writing but which is necessary - to me - background material. I've also spent a fair amount of time traveling, including a journey involving sixteen hours, two taxis, two buses, two trains and one plane (plus some walking with 25kg of luggage), an international conference, lots of photography, a conference paper, a return journey that was almost as interesting as the one out (I wimped out, hired a car, and drove myself home at 2am) and various other antics...

...and I am a serious writer, too.

I get rather furious when someone suggests differently just because I don't conform to their ideal. Writers write. Writers produce stories. They don't produce them in the same manner and at the same rate, and someone who only picks up writing materials once every few months quite likely *isn't* serious, but I do know published writers who set back one day a week, and others who produce a book every few years, and they are writers, too. Darn good ones, some of them.

I equally know people who produce a lot of dribble every day. It's not the quantity. It's not what tools you use, what process, whether you outline, or what kind of stories you end up with.

Writers write. Everything else varies.
[info]angely78 wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 07:04 pm (UTC)
Thanks for that comment
you have no clue who I am, but thank you. Reading something that says "if you don't write every day, you can't call yourself a writer, so give it up and make room for the *real* writers" is a sure-fire way to make me do just that, out of sheer depression and guilt.
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[info]angely78 wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 07:10 pm (UTC)
I would like to call myself a writer. I would like to write every single day, and sometimes I get on a roll and do it. But when the words stop coming, or I run into that mythical obstruction called "writers block", staring at a screen does nothing but depress and frighten me.

I have a small child under 2, two pets, a husband, and a constantly messy apartment. Are those excuses? No. Should I somehow find those elusive ten minutes to write anyway? Of course. But for me it's a very delicate balance between actually producing something that I can look back on and say "yes, lets keep that, it's worth it" and hammering out crap that I'll delete the next day--or hammering out nothing at all and feeling horribly guilty about it.

So here's the the pursuit of writing every day.
[info]claudiagray wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 07:47 pm (UTC)
Well, I don't write every day. Do I work consistently? Yes. Do I work hard? Yes. Do I put in many hours a week, every week? Yes. Have I managed to complete and revise short stories and novels? Yes. To my mind, THAT's what matters -- working hard and not waiting for inspiration to strike -- not an arbitrary "every day or die" ethos.

But of course, apparently I'm not a real writer --
[info]lilithsaintcrow wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 08:12 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry you took it that way. If you're really determined to find offense despite obviously not having the type of behavior I'm expressing my frustration with, there's not much I can say.
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[info]ilona_andrews wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 08:26 pm (UTC)
I find that schedule work wonders. Every day. Same time. Same place.

I use my laptop exclusively for writing and when I tried to play a game on it the other night (kids were on the gaming computer), I couldn't do it. I ended up writing instead. >
[info]lisamantchev wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 08:31 pm (UTC)
But please don't call yourself a writer. This is hard work, and if you're not going to do it...well, you don't need that title.

I see why some have ruffled feathers over that sentence, but here's something for everyone to consider: one person gets up every day for 4 am practice, travels to competitions, swims laps until their muscles ache and goes on to medal in the Olympics. And another person can get in a pool without drowning, and perhaps even enjoys swimming recreationally.

But who is the "swimmer"?

Sure, it might be irritating for Person A to have Person B to also claim the title, but at the end of the day, only one of them has the medal to show for it.
[info]khriskin wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 09:14 pm (UTC)
As one of the folks with ruffled feathers, I'd like to point out that the swimming comparison above is close, but not quite right. The difference between the two swimmers is that one is a 'Competitive Swimmer' and the other isn't. There is no similar distinction with writing, unless you head into the paid/unpaid territory-- which was not what the OP was doing.

I'm ruffled because for me the medals aren't the point, so I'm perfectly content to let someone else go home with them (and applaud them when they do!). But I'll be darned if that means I'm willing to let them talk down to me --or try and kick me out of the pool-- because they don't think I'm 'trying hard enough'.
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[info]kissas_fate wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 08:39 pm (UTC)
Wow, thank you. You have no idea how inspirational this post was. And you are oh so right of course. If one doesn't keep up the writing, practice it if you will, one will never become any good. So again, thanks, and I will keep this in mind. :)
[info]writerkitty wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 09:14 pm (UTC)
Thank you. This was just the kick in the pants I needed.

I work full-time, go to grad-school half-time, have a "special- needs" pet plus 2 others, a husband, a house, etc, etc, but I still always find time for Timesuck. I need to eliminate the Timesuck! Your post did not offend me at all, I didn't read it as an attack but as the tough love I need. When I write every day I can actually see the improvement & the story is easier to get into after a short break than a long one & I am in a much better mood, too.

I write more days than not, but I ALWAYS find time for Timesuck. And that is going to change. I am taking the summer off grad school and I will use that time to finish my book & get it ready to query and I WILL do it.

THANK YOU.
[info]khriskin wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 08:56 pm (UTC)
Is writing important enough for you to make it a priority and spend the work and time to do it every day through the distractions? [snip] If it's not, great. Find something else to do with your time. [snip] But please don't call yourself a writer. This is hard work, and if you're not going to do it...well, you don't need that title.

I am having a hard time finding a polite response to this. While I applaud your dedication to your craft, I am rather taken aback at your rather brusque dismissal of those of us who don't meet your 'requirements' for Writer-hood.

Writers write. End of definition. Whether you approve or not, there are plenty of us out here who will go right on labeling ourselves as such. We write when we get the chance, or when the Muse strikes us-- on our own schedules and for our own enjoyment. We are no less 'writers' because we don't conform to someone else's preconceptions.

The problem with writing is that there are no good ways of carving the population up into easily labeled groups. There are simply too many ways to write, and for anyone to start trying to label them as 'good enough' and 'not good enough' is frankly rather insulting to those of us getting sorted.
[info]wandereringray wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 10:19 pm (UTC)
The difference here is she's talking about making a career of writing. *shrugs* And in that case there is no "when I get the chance" you're writing about.

You make the time to write. You do it because you have to because you have a deadline. You can't afford to wait for the "muse" to strike, you're the one striking the muse until she coughs up the goods.

Because for some of us writing is a job, a means of employment, and the difference between sleeping under a roof or sleeping in a box. :D It's not a hobby, it's not really for enjoyment (though it can be fun), and it's not something that we can do anything less than devote ourselves to everyday.

If it insults you, fine, why care what she thinks? *shrugs* It's not the end-all-be-all definition, it's just the opinion of some of us.

Edited at 2008-04-11 10:19 pm (UTC)
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[info]jer_bear711 wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 09:06 pm (UTC)
I always say that if I had treated my writing with the same amount of professionalism and priority *before* I had a contract as I did *after* I had a contract, I would've probably been published years sooner.

Working amid distraction is an acquired skill, one I've managed to un-acquire (dis-acquire? How about 'lose'?), now that I write at home full-time with no kids, just two very well-behaved animals and a moderately well-behaved husband.

But if I had your atmosphere, I'd learn to deal, because it's *that* important to me.

Which is ultimately your point, I think, not that we all have to do it the same way, but that we make it a priority. For most people, doing it every day is a signal to ourselves (and the world) that "YO! This is important!"

I turned in a book this morning. I'll be writing tonight. (OK, technically, reading a first draft so I can begin a rewrite tomorrow, but still...)

--Jeri Smith-Ready
[info]atateatarin wrote:
Apr. 12th, 2008 08:14 am (UTC)
Working amid distraction is an acquired skill

Agreed.
I'm a 'speech is silver, silence is golden' sort of person, and my productivity increases substantially in the silence, but I have managed to train myself to work through noise and distraction and surprisingly it only took me a few weeks. I think there's only one disturbance I can't work through no matter how much I struggle and that's the baseline thumping of a subwoofer. Don't really know why, it's just one of those obnoxious, inexorable noises that gets straight into my brain.
I usually decide that when this noise starts up in the neighbourhood, it's time to watch a loud actiony film to drown it out or leave the house for a little while, instead of sitting around letting it frustrate me to the point where I can't work even when it stops. That's my compromise :)
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[info]jenlyn_b wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 10:29 pm (UTC)
Writing every day is, I think, a great thing to strive for, but I don't think it's either necessary or sufficient for being a writer. Different things work for different people. Personally, I've found that I learn the most about writing and produce the best product when I write in long stretches. I almost never sit down and write a couple hundred words, and the times that I have, I don't walk away from it feeling like I've gotten valuable practice at writing. That's just not the kind of writer I am. I prefer to think of and produce scenes in their entirety, and I don't get much out of writing less than a full chapter at a time. I'm the kind of writer who will have a twelve thousand word day, and then let things sit for several days. This works for me, and when it comes to getting feedback from my editor and other readers, I've noticed that, in general, the parts of my first drafts that seem the most "readable" are those that I was able to spend a long, consecutive chunk of time on while I was writing it. If I write in smaller chunks, I know myself well enough as a writer to know that I may end up inadvertantly sacrificing quality in favor of sticking to a routine- and that's not something I'd ever want to do.

I've found this to be true for me in other domains, too. If I'm reading a book, I read it straight through, no matter what. I'm not the kind of person who can read a chapter a night and work my way through something. In my non-writing life, I do psychological research, and if I'm designing an experiment or preparing a talk, or writing up my results for publication, I set aside huge chunks of time to do it, because in general, I do my best work when my thought process isn't interrupted. A lot of my colleagues prefer to do smaller amounts of work every day. Among the people I know, both methods have yielded great results.

None of this goes to say that "write every day" is bad advice- I think it's GREAT advice- and I think it's particularly good advice for people working on first novels. I just also think that there are individual differences, and that different people may need to practice their craft in different ways, using different schedules. I just wanted to say that if you try writing every day, and you find that it just doesn't work for you, I think that's okay, too, as long as you DO find a method that allows you to produce a good product on a consistent basis.
I firmly believe that other successful methods exist! I consider myself a serious writer who consistently produces readable product- I've published five books in the past two years, and I've got five more on the way. I see writing as a career, and I take it very seriously, but I also believe that part of developing your craft is discovering what works for YOU and what pushes YOU the most.

Thanks for the thought-provoking post, Lili!

-Jen Barnes
[info]frost_light wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 10:30 pm (UTC)
As far as writing being work, and needing to make it a priority regardless of whether circumstances are ideal, and that ass-in-chair time is the bread and butter of most serious writers, I'll agree 100%. But I don't agree that writers must write EVERY day in order to be called a writer. I write the majority of the days in a week, but not every day. If I'm on vacation, my laptop stays home until I get back, even if that's a week. And then some days, I do more for my writing by reading a good book and getting inspired by how wonderful the plot/characters were, or by spending a day outside. Then the next day or so, I am far more energized when I write than I would have been had I just forced myself to spit out some words to make a daily quota. That's what works best for me. Another person's method may be different, but I don't think that makes either of us wrong.

I think the point of your post - which is valid and I give a weary Amen of agreement to - that writing takes real commitment, sweat, and effort, was unfortunately diluted by the blanket statement of what makes someone a "real" writer. I'm sure out of the 100 members we have at Fangs, Fur and Fey, not all of them write every day. But all of them are writers, whether they earned that title by daily writing, weekly writing, weekend writing, or another method. And when that gets multiplied by writers with different work habits around the world, it doesn't seem feasible to say that daily writing is the only true way to be deemed a writer. Having a serious commitment toward writing is required, yes, but that doesn't always equate to daily writing.
[info]wandereringray wrote:
Apr. 12th, 2008 03:46 pm (UTC)
*grins* I just think of it as a job. Obviously if I'm at my job I'm going to work. If I'm on vacation, I'm going to play.

That's how I took that "every day" statement. That if you're going to work this like a job ... work it like a job. Don't show up and say "eh, I don't feel like it" and just piddle around. Put your butt down and work. (write, edit, plot, read, whatever) Doing something for the writing every day that you're working.

Balance is obviously essential in life. *grins* Look at all those poor shmucks who go on vacation with their cellphones and laptops and answer calls from work when they're supposed to be enjoying the beach.

I think what it really boils down to is that for beginners (at least from my POV) putting your butt down and getting in the habit helps build a real dedication. Something that a lot of people seem to talk about trying to find.

I hear so many people say "I don't have time" or whatever excuse they can come up with. I've heard them all. I've used most of them myself. Then I pulled myself up by my bootstraps and wrote a novel in 60 days while going to work 50 hours a week, going to class another 10 hours, trying to keep my house clean, my laundry done, and my fridge in groceries. :D It can be done, and darn it I wrote every single day during those two months.

But more importantly, I wrote because I wanted to. I loved the story and loved seeing it unfold. It was worth the lack of sleep, the hectic lifestyle to do it.
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[info]kazdreamer wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 10:40 pm (UTC)
I read "Doing It Every Day" simply as an analogy for making writing a priority and writing consistently. Exchanging daily time-suck for daily writing, where possible. Especially for writers who are aiming to be published - and published regularly.

Great post! Thank you. :)
[info]lilithsaintcrow wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 10:42 pm (UTC)
Thank you, Kaz. That's it exactly.
[info]melissa_writing wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 11:09 pm (UTC)
There are parts of this I completely agree with, but I couldn't disagree more with the idea that writing requires writing/word count every day. Not all writers write every day. If it works for you, that's cool. It isn't the ONLY route to success though.

For the first book, I was homeschooling, working PT, & doing single-mom stuff (my spouse travels a lot). Was I a writer? Yes.

So, after the first multi-book deal, I'm suddenly a FT writer. I still didn't write every single day.

Since I sold that first book, I've had a second 3-book contract, a manga series, and 2 anthologies. I STILL go weeks without writing a single word on paper. It's just not the right fit for me.

Personally, I don't believe that "writing" is simply the technical act of fingers on keys. Forcing words every day is counter-productive for me, but there's no doubt that I'm a writer.

Not all paths work for all people. Real writers write. Some do it every day; some do it in mad blurs after months of pondering (my method); and others squeeze it where they can around the business of living.

Melissa Marr
[info]lilithsaintcrow wrote:
Apr. 11th, 2008 11:15 pm (UTC)
Do you do something with your craft every day? I did not say word count. I said sit down and write every day, for as short as ten minutes, in order to build discipline.

As I've said ad nauseum above, the long-term professional writer may have enough discipline that even when they're not "working" they're "working". But I very much view this discipline as fragile and the seduction of timesuck to be everpresent and very real.

The months of pondering is a discipline in and of itself, but often what new writers think is pondering is actually navel-gazing. The discipline of setting the timer and making writing a priority every day can help to make that pondering useful, and to differentiate between the pondering and the navel-gazing.

What do you think?
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[info]jbattis wrote:
Apr. 12th, 2008 12:47 am (UTC)
I find the divisions being drawn here between 'real/not real' writer to be very telling. Lilith's observation has obviously touched a nerve, but I think we have to look at it from a larger context. After stating that this post (like all of our posts) is a matter of opinion, she goes on to make ONE critical comment within a post that is 90% meant to be encouraging.

Do I write every day? Yeah--in one form or another. And I'm not sure if this is what Lilith meant, but this is how I take the advice. Write *something* It doesn't have to be the same project. You could be working on 3 or 4 different books, including a volume of short stories, a novella, and a book of poems. Change it up. But make an effort to get some type of text down that has a creative core to it. Something that isn't just an email or an application.

If you write within a genre like UF, staying on top of your game is hard work. You should read the stuff that you write, and experiment with different plots, and most importantly, keep banging out words. I don't work on the same novel every single day. But when I'm facing a deadline, I do try to get at least chapter done a week in bits and pieces. I'm always writing something--be it academic, UF, or some other genre. Switching it up keeps you from going crazy. But if you want to get better (or not get worse), you have to keep practicing.

I'm willing to acknowledge that there are all kinds of writers. But when Mercedes Lacky cranks out 3 novels/year (with her husband's help), and Laurel K Hamilton churns out the Anita Blake novels when she's got kids, then you have to admit that some writers are full-time and others are part-time. Yeah, the Anita Blake novels have suffered. But any series that long is going to falter, and Hamilton worked her ass off every day to get published and gain popularity.

If you write every other Sunday, then writing is your hobby. Every day or every other day, then it's your life. And if it's your life, then you'll probably keep knocking on editors' and agents' doors until you get published, because the alternative is walking around undead all the time.

If you're lucky enough to be able publish a piece here and there, and that makes you happy--awesome! You're not a full-time writer, and you don't need to be. If you consistently produce readable stuff because you really have no other choice, and feel like your current series could stretch to 12 books if only your editor just let you keep going...well, you're a lifer.

Another easy way to tell (and this will get me yelled at, but I get yelled at all the time): full-time writers often don't get their feathers ruffled because they feel like they may/may not fit into someone's proper writerly definition. They just know that they're writers, and so they work. Who has time to feel crappy when you're doing what you love?

- Jes Battis
[info]melissa_writing wrote:
Apr. 12th, 2008 02:36 pm (UTC)
RE: "If you write every other Sunday, then writing is your hobby. Every day or every other day, then it's your life."

By those terms, writing is NOT my life. . . actually, I knew that. No one thing could be my life. Parenting, frex, is extremely important to me, but I still have to have my career. Previously it was teaching; now it's writing.

Wait . . . by those terms writing is a hobby. Can we tell the IRS that? ;)

My feathers aren't ruffled on my behalf, but I do get ruffled by statements that can discourage other folks from doing this. Writers have enough self-doubt that adding to it isn't something I'm cool with . . . That's all. My whole response was to seek clarity & offer another perspective b/c it's a tough career to embark upon. I'm a fan of many paths in all things. The only set in stone writing belief for me (although I'm sure this too could be altered somehow) is that writers write. The rest is all subjective.

Melissa Marr
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[info]tezmilleroz wrote:
Apr. 12th, 2008 02:36 am (UTC)
I unsubbed from ICHC...but then I picked up Perez Hilton. Hasn't solved my time-management problem ;-)

Have a lovely day! :-)
[info]jbattis wrote:
Apr. 12th, 2008 02:47 am (UTC)
Tez, my novel is being ruined by LolCats. Theyz in my plot. Messing wit my necros.
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[info]patricemichelle wrote:
Apr. 12th, 2008 02:54 am (UTC)
I look at it like...if I don't write "something" every day then I get rusty. You know, kind of like a person who's been on bed rest and has to really work their muscles to get them going again. Your brain is like a muscle and the more you use it to write, even writing small things, the faster and better you're able to in there and crank out your novel.

I looked at this post from a "you've got contracts and deadlines looming" and the best way not to kill yourself is to write a little bit every day. That way, you're not totally stressed trying to meet your deadlines. You meet them at a comfortable pace you set for yourself, and *fingers crossed sales are good* more contracts will be forthcoming.

While it's true that every author works differently (some will write the last half of their novel in a week and others will spread a novel out by writing a set word count every day until the book is finished) I imagine that for a lot of writers, the reality is somewhere in between. Life happens, interruptions can halt a steady pace, the muse stops talking, etc...so then we make up for it by blitz writing to get through and meet deadline.

[info]janni wrote:
Apr. 12th, 2008 03:46 am (UTC)
It's fascinating how many folks in this thread are affronted if someone calls themselves a writer without having met the proper criteria, whatever those may be. Why should it matter what anyone but me calls themselves? It's not as if someone else's labels can change who I am or what I do, or in any way affect the quality of my books. Only I can do that.

And I can only do it by finding whatever process works best for me, rather than adhering to any set of absolute rules.

Edited at 2008-04-12 03:48 am (UTC)
[info]squirrel_monkey wrote:
Apr. 12th, 2008 06:26 pm (UTC)
I think much of it is due to different definitions of 'writer'; seems to me that the OP meant folks who write 2-3 novels a year, while others use the 'writer is a person who writes' definition. And the lamentable fact that 'amateur' has acquired negative connotations. (FWIW, I don't make my living by writing, so I consider myself an amateur writer.)
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[info]halspacejock wrote:
Apr. 12th, 2008 03:51 am (UTC)
I'm a working, published novelist, and writing year-round doesn't work for me. The sheer intensity of writing and editing a novel completely burns me out, year by year, without fail.

So, instead of writing all the time, I devote four or five months to plotting, re-plotting and writing my latest novel. During those months I write my 2000-3000 words per day, every day, but I still allow normal life to go on.

I then spend around a month working on the first/second/third draft with my editor (including all rewrites), another month in tidy-ups, and by then it's November so I spend a month on NanoWrimo to get 50k words of the NEXT novel down.

Finally, at the start of December, I pack away the writing part of my brain and start getting the house ready for the annual christmas do with the whole family.

I may jot down plot ideas, but I usually don't start writing again until April/May.

I guess it's like farming - letting a field lie fallow gives it time to recharge for the next crop.

I'm not saying my way is better, just that a few months of intense effort with a defined goal at the end (edited, publishable novel) appeals to me far more than working away with, perhaps, no defined end in sight.
[info]m_stiefvater wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2008 04:22 pm (UTC)
Tho' I think you're still in the spirit of what Lili meant -- you treat it as a job. It demands the same priority an office job would.
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[info]lilithsaintcrow wrote:
Apr. 14th, 2008 04:33 pm (UTC)
Thanks, and good luck, to everyone who commented. I'm glad there was such an intense discussion.

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