(If you think I'm wondering about this because it's an issue in my Sooper Sekrit UF Project, you'd be right.)
So, poll time! I'm curious to know what y'all think about love triangles/quadrilaterals/gordion knots/etc. As always, feel free to tear the issue apart in comments, whether you're ranting or raving.
Poll #1097545 Love Triangles
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What's your opinion of love triangles?
Love 'em. They add a really tasty (and hot!) layer of tension and conflict.![]()
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37 (27.6%)
Hate 'em. They're horribly overused, and rarely convincing.![]()
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32 (23.9%)
Don't really care. They're pretty much furniture to me nowadays.![]()
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42 (31.3%)
Only if they stay triangles. Go go gadget threesome!![]()
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23 (17.2%)
Who do you generally root for the heroine to end up with?
The good guy. He's the one who will actually make her happy, in the long run.![]()
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42 (31.6%)
The bad boy. I don't read for realism; I read for hotness, and bad boys are way more hot.![]()
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11 (8.3%)
Neither. Usually they've both proved themselves jerks by the end. Or they were cardboard cutouts to begin with.![]()
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45 (33.8%)
Why choose? Menage a trois for the win!![]()
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35 (26.3%)
How do you like to see the love triangle resolved?
One of the guys bows gracefully out, conceding the field to his opponent.![]()
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2 (1.5%)
One of the guys dies heroically, thereby conceding the field to his opponent.![]()
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6 (4.5%)
The heroine makes up her own mind, rather than having it made for her by circumstances.![]()
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113 (85.0%)
I only kept reading the Anita Blake series to get to the inevitable Anita/Jean-Claude/Richard scene.![]()
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12 (9.0%)
Viva la love triangles, or down with them?



Comments
But as far as resolving it, if it must be resolved, the hero/ine must make up their own mind or I'm terribly annoyed. Terribly isn't a strong enough adverb, but they don't make adverbs strong enough. Perhaps the word I'm looking for, if it existed, could be something like: throwbookacrossroomily.
~X
Edited at 2007-11-30 01:09 am (UTC)
Really? That's not a description I've ever come across. Unless by "alternative lifestyles" you mean people with weird fringe jobs.
But that's me. I tend to prefer the unconventional romance, simply because there is SO MUCH of the conventional stuff. And anything that gets used a lot becomes, as the survey says, furniture. And it always, always, ALWAYS has to work within the story. Otherwise -- walldent book (My phrase for those that get tossed against one.)
I agree that the conventional stuff far outweighs the unconventional. Having said that, I don't actually think everybody should go for the threesome solution, simply because most real people out there probably wouldn't. But since I have a hard time thinking of any high-profile instances of poly solutions beyond Anita Blake (who really doesn't count), it would be nice to see somebody do it.
http://buymeaclue.livejournal.com/34818
And I got to have the fun of trying to find it while also trying to keep a pot of risotto well-stirred. Back with more thoughts, maybe, once I'm done cooking and eating. :-p
The thing I feel is missing in most triangles is the third side. It doesn't have to be sexual, but it has to be there. Arthur/Guinevere/Lancelot is a powerful story to me because Arthur and Lancelot are friends; their relationship matters as much as their relationships with Guinevere does, and that's why it's tragic. Everybody gets hurt. Jean-Claude/Anita/Richard fails for me because Jean-Claude and Richard don't much like each other, and intermittently have nothing to do with one another. If Hamilton had developed them more (or, y'know, not quit developing characters entirely) I might have had more investment in it.
That said, I hate unrealistic love triangles. In real life, multiple guys get attracted a single girl or vice versa plenty of times. But in real life, usually the one being crushed on has one definite favorite. It's not a question of choosing, it's a question of shooting the other one down. Being hit on while you're already attached to someone is something that could be examined in a more interesting/ realistic way in UF, in my opinion.
I do have a love triangle in my novel, LAMENT, by the way. (blushes). Only I don't regard it as such because my main character only loves one of the characters who is in love with her, unlike in Eclipse, the third book to the Twilight series. The conclusion to that love triangle made me groan and throw said book across the room.
I like the idea of people examining being hit on while already in a relationship. That's painful in some ways, because presumably they're happy in the relationship they're in (why else are they in it?). I'd like to see someone take that dynamic more often. It seems darker and trainwrecky. (It's a word now.)
In fact, the more I think about it, the more I think I might try it. Nearly all of my main characters start out single so I can hook them up with someone. Thanks for the inspiration/challenge... I'm going to have fun attempting this.
To the point where I'm not sure I've read any myself, though I recall hearing one recommended at one point.
Maybe I'll let her have all of them!;)
And it can't just be her that wants it. Would all three of those guys really go along with it?
I know, I know, it lacks tension that way, but I'm getting tired of reading the inevitable "oh no, who do I choose?" scenes. I have enough romantic angst in my own life that reading about someone who is happy where they are would be a refreshing change. Or are there books like this out there in the UF genre already, and I'm just missing them?
Case in point: I won't give details, so as to avoid spoilers, but there's a point in the TV show Alias where they resolve the main romantic situation. Result? Good-bye, tension. Good-bye, interest. There was nothing more to say there. Unfortunately, they chose to deal with this by artificially injecting a plot complication that mucked things up again, but the plot complication was so stupid (and coincided with other stupidity) that I stopped watching on the spot.
I really enjoyed playing with it as the writer, because my heroine wants to have her cake and eat it too, and I loved toying with the whole concept of "Can you be 'monogamous' to two different people?" and how difficult monogamy would be when the two men are rivals and your own nature (succubus) prohibits trying to maintain a committed relationship. Also? Neither choice is the 'right' choice because both heroes have their appeals and their drawbacks.
I thought it was terribly fun to write. :)
- Jill Myles
Edited at 2007-11-30 04:33 am (UTC)
However, that being said, I've seen cheesy cardboard triangles so often that I'm a bit sick of the superficial device. I prefer dynamic, platonic, realistic, dimensional relationships that may or may not include sexual attraction.
Just my two cents.
Jane Jensen, when she was working on the Gabriel Knight computer games, had the right idea about this. If people are living with sexual tension (triangle or not), either they get over it or get it on.
So I don't tend to like triangles where the choice is obvious or easy -- it has to be hard and complex.
I like the romance, like every other really important relationship in the book, to be complicated and difficult and engaging in itself - because putting these two people in a room together automatically creates an interesting dynamic.
The love triangle - while it gives wonderful opportunities for jealousy and heartache, both of which are marvellous things in ficiton - tends to mean that the interest in the relationship comes from outside the relationship. Once the other love interest is eliminated, the winning one becomes instantly less interesting.
But, like anything - the disclaimer is: "Unless it's done really well."
It's the "not deciding" that I can't stand. There is almost always a favourite, unless it is clear that all parties involved are poly/bisexual/what-have-you to begin with. I have a friend who was involved in a polyamorous relationship with another woman and two other men for the past three years and it is absolutely difficult to maintain. But polyamoury is not a love triangle. That sort of relationship geometry is difficult to portray convincingly. There is jealousy and feelings get hurt frequently. When it's all said and done, I despise threesomes written for a "hotness" factor. It's not "hot." (Well, it certainly can be, but not when feelings are involved.) People may become involved with each other because it's hot, but STAYING with each other is entirely different.
That being said, in love triangles, I ALWAYS root for the "plain Jane/Best Buddy" character because they're the underdog. But that's not always the case: if someone else is better for the person, then of course I'll root for him/her.