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On the Road with Janeway and McGonagall

Kelly here ([info]kellychambliss), ready to hit the road with the[info]fangirl_tour.

  

I came to fanfic years ago (ten years ago this month, in fact) when I was obsessed with Captain Janeway of Star Trek: Voyager and searched the Net looking for. . .anything. What I found was fabulous fiction and a fun community of people, some of whom are still my friends. In fact, one of them is more: I met my partner online in VOY fandom. In a few weeks, she and I are going to have a "tenth-anniversary" celebration of the first night we met online, in a Star Trek chatroom.

 

I drifted away from Janeway fic eventually and was fandom-less for a while, until I happened to reread all the Harry Potter books last summer and fell in love with Minerva McGonagall (yeah, I have a thing for older women with power). I started writing Minerva-fic in the fall of 2008, and in the past few months, I've read more superb stories than I can count.

 

So my recs today feature my main fandom loves, Janeway from Voyager and McGonagall from Harry Potter, with a couple of other pairings thrown in just because they're too good to miss. The Janeway titles are fairly old, from the glory days of the fandom. For Minerva, I've included a variety of pairings, because old ladies can have lots of sex and romance, too.

 

I'm an angst diva, so many of these fics are. . .angsty.  But there's one lovely romance.  And one comic story, because, as Slughorn says in the HBP movie, you've got to have the dark and the light.

 

Unless noted, the summaries and ratings are the authors'.

 

 

Star Trek: Voyager

 

Fandom: Star Trek: Voyager

Title: A Kiss on the Body Electric
Author: 
Jane St. Clair
Pairing / Characters: Janeway / Seven
Rating: 
NC-17
Status: 
Complete
Summary: 
Janeway and Seven take a journey down a holographic highway. And then travel much farther. A car, a night, a white t-shirt (and hairpins!), a leather jacket.
Why I fangirl this: 
It captures a lot of the angsty energy of the Janeway / Seven dynamic. There's an age and power difference between the two characters that I think has to be addressed; I like the way Jane does that here. And the car and leather jacket are fun.

 

Fandom: Star Trek: Voyager

Title:  Reaction Shots
Author:  the stylus
Pairing / Characters: Janeway, various 
Rating:
light R

Status: complete
Summary: 
The crew reacts to home. And Janeway.
Why I fangirl this
: the stylus had an excellent understanding of Janeway's appeal, and in this story, which takes place after the crew has finally gotten back to Earth, she does a wonderful job of showing that appeal as it manifests itself to a variety of characters: Admiral Paris, Tuvok, Seven, Chakotay, Tom Paris, and B'Elanna. Her understated style exactly suits the elegiac quality of the fic. To me, this story captures a lot of the allure and pleasure of Janeway fic.

 

And now for a little Janeway bdsm. . .

 

Fandom: Star Trek: Voyager

Title:  The Middle of the Night
Author: 
Boadicea
Warnings: 
bdsm

Pairing / Characters: Janeway / Kashyk
Rating: 
NC-17
Status: 
Complete
Summary:
 An AU in which Kashyk stays on Voyager.
Why I fangirl this: 
Kashyk was a darkly-sinister-and-sexy alien who was (in the parlance of Kashyk fandom) an MMX -- mass-murdering xenophobe.  He was fully convinced of the moral rightness of his cause:  to exterminate all telepaths. He and Janeway had wonderfully-twisted chemistry. Their entire relationship was based on power games, and the best Kashyk fanfic explored these games, both political and sexual. Boadicea's story epitomizes the appeal of Janeway/Kashyk.  And it's pretty hot, too

 

 

 

Harry Potter

 

Fandom: Harry Potter
Title: 
Liars
Author:
DaphneRunning

Pairing / Characters: McGonagall / Moody
Rating:
NC-17
Status:
Complete
Summary: 
The night before Minerva McGonagall begins teaching at Hogwarts, she pays an unexpected visit to Alastor Moody, the brash young Auror.
Why I fangirl this: 
This fic follows McGonagall and Moody in a very non-traditional love story that spans decades. I find it compelling because of the character development: Minerva and Alastor aren't very likeable, but they're in character. Yet despite their flaws, you come to care for and understand them. The opening chapter is a little rocky; when I first read it, I couldn't find it believable. But as the story progresses, the author sucks you in to her vision of the characters, and by the end, I had a hard time thinking of them in any other way. And that ending! -- a genuine punch in the gut, even though you know it's coming.

 

Fandom: Harry Potter

Title:  Home Studies
Author:
[info]bethbethbeth 
Pairing / Characters: McGonagall / Snape
Rating: The author doesn't offer one, but I'd give it PG
Status: 
Complete
Summary: 
Minerva and Severus Post-Hogwarts: A Life
Why I fangirl this: 
Written before DH, "Home Studies" is an AU told through the very effective conceit of Hogwarts academic subjects adapted for the home. After Dumbledore's death, Severus comes to stay with a retired Minerva, and their friendship slowly and believably turns to romance. Quiet, domestic, comfortable, utterly satisfying. The "Potions" scene is a particular delight.

 

Fandom: Harry Potter
Title: 
A Toast to Lord Voldemort
Author: [info]magnetic_pole 
Pairing / Characters:  McGonagall / Augusta Longbottom
Rating: PG
Status: 
Complete
Summary: 
Neville joins an unexpected celebration.
Why I fangirl this: 
You'll rarely find a better characterization of Gran Longbottom, and Minerva and Neville are beautifully-presented, too. The story seamlessly weaves humor, politics, magic, and captivatingly blunt old women. Look especially for Minerva's comments on "poofs."

 

 Fandom: Harry Potter
Title:  
Ancient Magic
Author:
Headmistress X

Warning: a couple chapters of violence and dubcon
Pairing / Characters: McGonagall / Hermione
Rating: 
NC-17
Status: 
WIP
Summary: 
Minerva understands why one ought to be very, very careful.
Why I fangirl this: 
A 40-year-old Hermione and a 95-years-young McGonagall find unexpected love that is perfect in its imperfections. There's a nail-biting adventure of a backstory, a wonderfully-discursive and revealing Weasley family picnic, and non-annoying children. But look especially for Chapters 1 and 13. One told from Minerva's pov, the other from Hermione's, they epitomize the reasons that this very difficult pairing can work.

 

Fandom: Harry Potter
Title:
Viper's Kiss
Author: 
[info]pre_raphaelite1 

Warnings: blood-play, breath-play, canon character death, evil!Minerva

Pairing / Characters: McGonagall / Voldemort, McGonagall / Sirius 
Rating: NC-17
Status:
Complete
Summary:  What if Voldemort had an ally in Hogwarts?  And what if that ally were McGonagall? (my summary; I couldn't find one by the author.)
Why I fangirl this: [info]pre_raphaelite1 writes the most wonderful kinky, twisted darkfics, and this one is a classic. Not only does it feature a fabulous evil!Minerva (one of the very few such versions of her that I've found), but, until DH, there's no reason that canon could not have functioned exactly like this. McGonagall could so easily have been Voldy's actual spy in Hogwarts. You'll love (or hate) the way PR-1 explains the canon story of Sirius Black. And just the sheer evil fun of it all.

 

Fandom: Harry Potter
Title:  
Things We Lost (and Found) in the War
Author: [info]xylodemon   
Pairing / Characters: McGonagall / Snape
Rating:
NC-17
Status:
Complete
Summary: 
Two people, two wars, and a few of the things they learned along the way
Why I fangirl this: 
McSnape is a tough pairing to make believable, but this story succeeds wildly. The characters are spot-on, and they act like grown-ups; the sex is marvelously-described and in-character; the style is wonderful; the imagery and atmosphere are powerful. One of my very favorite HP fics.
 

 Fandom: Harry Potter
Title: 
Years
Author:
[info]orphne 
Pairing / Characters: McGonagall / Trelawney
Rating: 
NC-17
Status: 
Complete
Summary:  
McGonagall thinks of the past.
Why I fangirl this: 
Set immediately after Dolores Umbridge tries to sack Trelawney in OoP, this story will rip your heart out. In a good way.

 

And now for a spot of crack!fic. . .

 

Fandom: Harry Potter
Title: 
I Dream of Plagiarism
Author:
Cat Feral
Pairing / Characters: McGonagall, Snape, Pomfrey
Rating:
PG
Status:  
Complete
Summary: 
You have to wonder what they think of it all.
Why I fangirl this: 
It's hilarious, it's meta, it nails so many fanfic clichés, and it has Minerva voicing her irritation with fans who won't accept Albus as gay: "There's a reason the man has a phoenix for a pet! What part of 'flaming' do they not understand?"

 

And now for a couple of excellent non-McGonagall stories. . .

 

Fandom: Harry Potter
Title: 
Playing for Keeps
Author:
[info]vissy
     
Warnings: 
incest, dubcon
Pairing / Characters: Eileen Prince/Severus Snape
Rating: 
R (author's rating; I'd say NC-17 for the subject matter)
Status:
Complete
Summary: 
Eileen Snape, former Captain of the Hogwarts Gobstones Team, is losing her marbles.
Why I fangirl this: Normally incest is a major squick for me; I think I've read exactly two stories that feature it. But this story was part of a fest known for its high quality, so I was willing to give it a try. And I'm very glad I did.  Vissy creates a compelling, believable picture of Eileen: her working-class background, the grimness of her life, her few pleasures and triumphs, such as her halcyon days as gob stones champ. In the books, gobstones is just a briefly-mentioned kids' game, but in this story, it becomes a complex metaphor for all sorts of things, including love and family and bonds in all their necessary and painful forms. You won't regret reading.


 Fandom: Harry Potter
Title: 
Calligraphilia
Author: 
[info]lotesseflower

Pairing / Characters: 
Hermione
Rating:
NC-17
Status:
complete
Summary: 
Above all things, Hermione Granger loves words.
Why I fangirl this: 
This character study shows so much of what I like about Hermione: her passion, her love of books and learning, her youthful confusions, her intellect, the darker edges of her mind and situation. It's a story about words and writing and self-inscription, beautifully done.


So long till next year!


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[info]spotzle
2009-07-21 06:02 pm UTC (link)
 In fact, one of them is more: I met my partner online in VOY fandom. In a few weeks, she and I are going to have a "tenth-anniversary" celebration of the first night we met online, in a Star Trek chatroom.

*bounce* Congratulations! And many happy years to come!

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[info]kellychambliss
2009-07-21 08:08 pm UTC (link)
Thanks! It hardly seems possible that so much time has passed. . .

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[info]orpheus_samhain
2009-07-21 06:56 pm UTC (link)
Thank you, wonderful recs. The first I'm going to read is "Playing for Keeps". I wasn't able to follow the beholder fest *cries* so I'm sure I've missed a lot of fics.

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[info]kellychambliss
2009-07-21 08:11 pm UTC (link)
Glad you like the recs; I hope you'll like the stories. Beholder was a great fest -- "A Toast to LV" comes from there, too. There's always the Masterlist

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[info]scatteredlogic
2009-07-21 08:13 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for all the terrific recs! I'm looking forward to dipping my toe into the Voyager fandom. I always liked Janeway, and I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed Counterpoint, so the rec for Janeway/Kashyk is particularly apt. ;)

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[info]kellychambliss
2009-07-21 10:16 pm UTC (link)
It was amazing that one episode could spark so much fanfiction, but "Counterpoint" obviously really worked for a lot of people. Hope you like the stories.

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[info]harmony_bites
2009-07-22 09:36 pm UTC (link)
What Kelly couldn't in all modesty do was rec her own Janeway/Kashyk, which is among the best regarded in the fandom (or was in its heyday when I was active.) But hey, I can so...

Needs (NC-17) (7,485 words)
1st Place, Best Kashyk Story, 2000 ASC Awards
1st Place, Best Janeway/Kashyk Story, 2000 ASCEM Golden O Awards
Summary:: Inspector Kashyk from "Counterpoint" returns to commandeer Voyager and the crew. And Kathryn.
(Written August, 1999)

There are non-consensual elements to the tale to give due warning.

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[info]scatteredlogic
2009-07-22 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Oooh, thank you very much! ~grin~ And sometimes people can be too modest. ~nods~

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[info]kellychambliss
2009-07-22 11:15 pm UTC (link)
Aw, shucks. . .that's very kind of you! I consider "Needs" my first fanfic, really; I'd written a couple of other brief Janeway pieces, but they were just apprenticeship things; I never put them on my website. I'm really pleased that you still remember this.

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[info]elawvu3
2009-07-22 12:59 am UTC (link)
Thanks for the great recs! I'm esp. interested in the McSnape and the Hermione centric one. I'm also intrigued by evil!Minerva. That idea seems completely new to me.

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[info]kellychambliss
2009-07-22 03:08 am UTC (link)
I'm also intrigued by evil!Minerva. That idea seems completely new to me

I've read only two or three evil!Min fics, but it's fun idea to play with. I hope you like the Hermione and the McSnape; they're really fine stories. Thanks for commenting.

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[info]harmony_bites
2009-07-22 09:38 pm UTC (link)
I've read other stories by Jane St. Clair, Boadiciea and Beth H, so I know they're outstanding writers--but I haven't read any of the above stories, despite how much I've read in Trek and Harry Potter--so I expect I'm in for some great reading.

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[info]kellychambliss
2009-07-22 11:24 pm UTC (link)
Since you're a Hermione fan, I think you'll like the last one; it's short, but powerful.

It's amazing just how deep these fandoms are -- probably 95% of these [info]fangirl_tour HP recs are new to me.

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[info]harmony_bites
2009-07-22 11:53 pm UTC (link)
I found FFN to be a good indication of the size of a fandom/ship. I did comprehensive listings of SSHG and posted it to my LJ. I found that generally, take FFN and double it, and you have about the size of the number of stories out there in all archives.

Well, there are 410,550 Harry Potter stories on FFN (more than any other fandom)--there *are* probably a million out there. Voyager? 5,731 stories on FFN--about 15,000 Star Trek stories on FFN combining all the shows.

This is I think a SSHG, or at least Snape-centric com. The mods are SSHG shippers--so you've probably seen a lot of recs for that ship--which alone has 7,831 stories on FFN--more than all of Voyager--and SSHG isn't even the largest major Het Pairing.

So yeah, that means HP especially is pretty deep. Almost impossible to read comprehensively in. And did I mention a lot of the stories are novels?

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[info]kellychambliss
2009-07-23 03:18 am UTC (link)
OMG! This is either terrifying or great. I think your FFN x 2 formula works very well. Last semester, I had my students in a women's studies class read "Twilight,' and one of the students talked about Twilight fanfic for her oral report. (I'm sure she writes it, too, but she wouldn't say so /g/). She used FFN stats to give rough ideas of ship and fandom popularity, which was a good idea, but your approach is even better.

This is I think a SSHG, or at least Snape-centric com

Which is fine with me, especially now that I'm assured that we'll never run out of recs!

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[info]harmony_bites
2009-07-23 08:03 pm UTC (link)
Last semester, I had my students in a women's studies class read "Twilight,' and one of the students talked about Twilight fanfic for her oral report.

*clenches jaw and compresses lips to prevent a full out anti-Twilight rant* Well, at least there are plenty of gender fail issues in it to discuss in a Woman's Studies class...

Which is fine with me, especially now that I'm assured that we'll never run out of recs!

Things do decline in fandoms with the end of canon. I thought Trekfic crashed a lot even before that when Enterprise turned out so awful. I think I've started to see that decline in Harry Potter fic too, but yeah, it's so large there's still much to love, and you'll never run out of good things to read in it.

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[info]kellychambliss
2009-07-24 12:01 am UTC (link)
*clenches jaw and compresses lips to prevent a full out anti-Twilight rant* Well, at least there are plenty of gender fail issues in it to discuss in a Woman's Studies class...

Ha! I had a hard time keeping my mouth shut during the class discussions; I so wanted to say to the students, "Don't you see the danger here? The pernicious, reactionary messages? The damage it will do your psyche! And it's badly-written to boot!" But I made myself shut up. Their reactions were interesting: one baffled male ("I really don't get this"), one squeeing fan ("I can't help it, I just love this so much!"), one person who fully expected to hate it and fell so in love with it that she went out and bought the rest of the series, one person who was so outraged by it that she actually wrote a column in the school paper, a bunch of neutrals. We had some really good gender-related discussions, though.

I think I've started to see that decline in Harry Potter fic

That's too bad, but of course, it's inevitable once canon ends. There are some exceptions (it seemed to me that the TOS juggernaut was still rolling on even before the reboot), but Voyager pretty much died within a year or so of the show ending (although my own ardor was beginning to cool by that point, so perhaps I missed a lot.) Still, even if HP dwindles to half or a third of the high-point output, there will still be plenty of new stuff.

I think it's generational, too: So much of the HP phenomenon was the serial release of the books; I doubt that the stories will ever pack such a punch again. The generation coming along since the series ended doesn't seem as interested.

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[info]harmony_bites
2009-07-24 10:38 pm UTC (link)
The pernicious, reactionary messages? The damage it will do your psyche! And it's badly-written to boot!"

I know. Although actually, I find a lot of pernicious messages in fanfic too. Almost, almost every bit of fanfic is written by women. And yet I find a lot of m/m slash to have a attitude of "women ewwwwwww" and het to be filled with a lot of noisome romance aisle tropes (and it took me a while to recognize it as such because I don't read there), to the point I sometimes think nothing has really changed in gender conceptions since the 50s.

However, I think Twilight is among the worst I've read, both in a socio-psych and literary sense. And it's published (But then so is Dan Brown and LK Hamilton)

There are some exceptions (it seemed to me that the TOS juggernaut was still rolling on even before the reboot)

I felt when I left in 2003 even TOS fic was losing a lot of steam, a lot of the vibrance and quality. Fanfic is a very social thing, and I think the end of VOY and the badness of ENT hurt the newsgroup community as a whole. The fandom as a whole. I saw a lot of squickfic being posted, and a lot less of the good stuff that had so entranced me, which helped accelerate my losing interest in the fandom.

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[info]kellychambliss
2009-07-26 02:44 am UTC (link)
I find a lot of pernicious messages in fanfic too. . . het to be filled with a lot of noisome romance aisle tropes

That's my complaint about some of the more traditionally-oriented het pairings; I see it in Janeway/Chakotay and McGonagall/Dumbledore especially: unexamined, uncritical, idealistically romantic depictions of family, pregnancy, and domesticity. Because evidently I'm an obsessed, masochistic glutton for punishment, I at least glance at every fic I find featuring my favorite characters, and there's an amazingly large number of stories with white wedding gowns and bachelor parties and goofy match-making sidekicks, etc. There's a weird trend in a lot of MMAD fics for a huge number of children. In one recent horror, the plot has Dumbledore going into a depressed funk, convinced that McG no longer loves him -- because she says that seven children are enough. I don't find this sort of domesticated silliness in less-traditional het pairings (where the woman is older and/or significantly more powerful than the man.) Those pairings have their own cliches, of course, but usually not the 50s-sitcom sort. Do you find this sort of traditional romance/family life in HGSS? I haven't seen much in what I've read (admittedly not a huge amount).

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[info]harmony_bites
2009-07-26 12:10 pm UTC (link)
In one recent horror, the plot has Dumbledore going into a depressed funk, convinced that McG no longer loves him -- because she says that seven children are enough.

*sound of mind boggling*

Do you find this sort of traditional romance/family life in HGSS?

God yes.

I didn't find this in TOS Het or the J/C I read. But in the case of TOS in the time I was there, TOS was so dominated by K/S, that you had to be the proverbial twice as good to get half the attention if you were a Het or Gen writer and no one Het pairing in TOS was truly popular (with the possible exception of Spock/Chapel, which mostly was off the newsgroup). With J/C, I mostly just read what was recommended and what was posted on ASC, so when I think of that ship I think of Macedon, Peg Robinson, Your Cruise Director, Penny Proctor, Jemima, Monkee, Liz Barr, Djinn, August--good, good authors.

SSHG is really where I first encountered the heavy romance aisle motifs. Certain phrases like "wet folds" and "ministrations" I didn't encounter in TOS Het nor romance aisle tropes like "Marriage of Convenience" and "Secret Baby."

I think sometimes SSHG is a victim of its own success. Once upon a time it was a transgressive, controversial pairing, and authors had to work hard to convince you these two belonged together, particularly based on a "meeting of the minds" - their common intellect and interests. Good SSHG romance is Pride and Prejudice done well often--with each realizing their perceptions of each other was wrong, and growing and changing as a result.

But once a pairing becomes popular and doesn't have to work for an audience--and SSHG is--I think it starts feeding on its own cliches, and brings romance cliches in. It's less about making Snape and Hermione fit together based on their canon selves, and more about using them to fit a romance aisle mold of Brooding Alpha Male and Sweet Innocent Heroine of pop Regency Romance. SSHG is known outside of the ship for the inane "Marriage Law Challenge" forcing the two together, has a lot of fic where Hermione is raped by Snape at a DE orgy and she falls in love with him while having his baby, and just lots of fics surrounding Hermione having Snape's baby babies (often with epilogues where one girl is sorted into Ravenclaw as her older brothers in Hufflepuff, Slytherin and Gryffindor (they were triplets) applaud.

But remember, the ship is huge--with more stories if FFN is an indication than all of Voyager. That means that along with a lot of inane stories I find appalling because they make me wonder if we've made any progress, make me believe women are their own worst enemy, there's a lot that appalls me simply because in comparison I feel like a hack. A lot I find more rich, more complex, more adult and more stylish than anything Rowling ever wrote.

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[info]kellychambliss
2009-07-29 05:01 am UTC (link)
But once a pairing becomes popular and doesn't have to work for an audience--and SSHG is--I think it starts feeding on its own cliches

Excellent point; I've definitely seen this in other formerly "transgressive" or unexpected pairs. For instance, the same is true (with different cliches) of McGonagall/Hermione fic -- many people don't bother to try to make it plausible; they just build on tropes already established, be they reasonable ones or not.

And I think that for some younger writers, there are various psychological things going on with that pairing, too: kids working out their own crushes on teachers, doing it in this safe fantasy form that gives them distance but doesn't really require much in the way of literary expertise /g/ I wouldn't be surprised if some SSHG fic didn't also do this -- reflect uncritical fantasies that young writers might have about their own interesting, older male teachers. The Byronic hero trope comes so easily ready-made, too.

lots of fics surrounding Hermione having Snape's baby babies (often with epilogues where one girl is sorted into Ravenclaw as her older brothers in Hufflepuff, Slytherin and Gryffindor (they were triplets) applaud

Hahaha! Unfortunately, I've read stuff just like this, in all sorts of Trek and HP pairings.

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[info]bambu345
2009-07-28 05:51 pm UTC (link)
There are some spectacular stories here, and I'm sure that I'll be reading outside the box for several days.

Thanks!

Edited at 2009-07-28 05:53 pm UTC

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[info]kellychambliss
2009-07-29 03:52 am UTC (link)
You're welcome! Hope you enjoy them.

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