Krystal ([info]closetvictorian) wrote in [info]egl,
@ 2008-08-08 11:41:00
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Kids and Lolita?
I dropped out of the Lolita scene about 2 1/2 years ago, give or take, as I got pregnant. Looking at tiny Japanese girls in lovely tiny dresses got kinda depressing as I became bigger and bigger. And then once I had her, I went and had a second kid! So it's been a while, to say the least. I used to design Lolita clothes all the time, but I'm only recently getting back into that, along with otherwise trying to be a thrifty sort of Lolita again.

I'm curious, though: does anyone else in this community have children? And if you don't, what do you suppose you would do if/when you did decide to have them? Would you don the frills and lace the moment you could fit back into them? Would you opt for a more mature, aristocrat/neo-Victorian look? Or would you get rid of your dresses entirely, now that you've become a parent?

Personally, I've always preferred the Gothic Lolita look above all others, along with Aristocrat, so I don't feel too bad about wearing what I have, although what little I have isn't *quite* Lolita. I imagine that if I did have name brand dresses and head-eating bows, I would still wear them. Doing so in public, though, would be another matter. I'd worry that with two little girls next to me, I'd go from just being a "weird girl," which I could deal with, to a "deluded woman" or something.

Anyway, I'd like to hear the community's thoughts on this topic.




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[info]randomisgemini
2008-08-08 04:10 pm UTC (link)
i'd have to say that i'd move from sweeter to more classic or aristo looks. i'm not a sweet loli myself(being tall and curvy just doesn't work for it), but i don't plan to abandon the look because i have children. definitely no bows, but i think headdresses might work, especially if you dress up the kiddos. which is actually another thing-baby/child lolita! have the girls dress in something frilly and fun and have you in a little darker, more mature version. families dress alike all the time; why not loli?

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[info]closetvictorian
2008-08-08 04:36 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I definitely intend to deck my girls out in Lolita. The oldest is still only 2, though, and goes up a size in clothing every few months. Once she slows down a little, I'm going to start sewing dresses for both of my girls. The elder of the two already loves fancy dresses, but the younger is only six months old, so it'll be a while for her.

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[info]whitequeenchess
2008-08-08 04:11 pm UTC (link)
I think this community can answer your question: http://community.livejournal.com/loli_oneesama/
There a lot of older lolitas and some have children too.

I don't have children but I think it doesn't matter how old you are and if you are married and have kids, if you like lolita fashion DO IT! ;)

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[info]closetvictorian
2008-08-08 04:36 pm UTC (link)
Oooh, thanks for the link!

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[info]kirakirajenjen
2008-08-08 04:15 pm UTC (link)
I don't know... probably mostly because I can't imagine having kids yet XD

If I did have kids right now, I don't think I'd give up the look. Maybe I'd tone it down a bit and wear it less often, but I don't think I'd give it up altogether. Heck, i'd probably start dressing the baby up too XD My friend and I already want to get some Shirley Temple for her 2 year old sister and take her to meetups with us XD

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[info]amanikitty
2008-08-08 04:16 pm UTC (link)
I wouldn't change just because I become a mother. Unless my tastes just change on it's own, I'll probably start wearing lolita again once the baby fat goes away. By then I'll probably be dressing more himegyaru, but I doubt I'll put the frills away for good.

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[info]roberthakika
2008-08-08 04:22 pm UTC (link)
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o305/Kika__/7329642_4055200652.jpg

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[info]closetvictorian
2008-08-08 04:33 pm UTC (link)
How cute!

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[info]skyangelko
2008-08-08 04:28 pm UTC (link)
Even though i don't have kids, I'd say if it what you really like Lolita go at it. Gothic would be perfect for when you have the stomach, black always make someone look skinnier. I probably would stop after kids because I'd have a feeling my kid would ruin the outfits but as a inspiring fashion designer as a baby i might design a few lolita clothes for my kid (if I ever have one)

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[info]closetvictorian
2008-08-08 07:57 pm UTC (link)
Luckily enough, my kids never ruined any of my clothes. They've ruined plenty of their own, mind you, but I've always got receiving blankets on hand everywhere for use as burp cloths, so they're big enough to protect my clothes. ^.^

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[info]seishukuhime
2008-08-08 04:32 pm UTC (link)
I've seen pictures in the GLB of lolitas who get married and have families and continue to dress in the fashion along with their husbands and children.

When I have a family of my own, I'd probably shift from sweet lolita to a more mature classical/aristocrat look, and deck out my children in sweet lolita/boystyle. I think it would be amazing. :D

Of course I'd probably stay away from the expensive stuff while they're still babies, for fear of it getting ruined by baby ickyness.

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[info]tsu_
2008-08-08 04:46 pm UTC (link)
My mom doesn't wear lolita, but she dresses in Jane Marple, Indivi and MILK styles. I personally don't mind it - as a kid I had sailor outfits and cute dresses as well (to match my mom and siblings!). It's still fairly romantic looking, but not childish. I really like shopping with her, it's superfun!

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[info]pinkwigs
2008-08-08 09:18 pm UTC (link)
Oh that's so cool! Nothing beats a good mother-daughter relationship!

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[info]customcosplay
2008-08-08 04:47 pm UTC (link)
I have a son, and I would love to dress him up with me some time (while he is still young enough to tolerate it!) in knee pants and socks with a cute little jacket! Button boots would be awesome, but it would take some looking to find a large enough pair (oddly I have my great grandfather's but my kiddo shot past that size to fast to even try them),

I love classic lolita, but my collection is all sweet (aside from some wa-loli pieces). Personally I don't care what people think of my style, but then anyone close to me kind of likes it too.

Strike a balance between what you are comfortable with and what you want to do though; you shouldn't deny yourself out of fear of other peoples opinions but at the same time you shouldn't delve into some thing that may make you uncomfortable.

I also tend to wear a lot of slightly but not really lolita stuff (in summer I live in gathered skirts, which are about the right length but more relaxed in style). For me lolita is more of a special occasion version of my everyday wear (I also avoid wearing anything too nice while working, sewing endlessly puts an amazing amount of wear and tear on ones clothing).

Also I started wearing it again shortly after I had him because I trimmed down so fast, but took a break a year after (my weight did a yo-yo when I weaned him. It sucked...I gained *all* the baby weight back, still peeling it off again)

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[info]borderbasher
2008-08-08 05:04 pm UTC (link)
i might go aristocrat/classic, i like that a lot too; very classy for a mother i think.
but if i still want to go on in cute colors etc i think it will be more fifties style :D i've always loved that too, and i like that whole fifties housewive feel xD (with cute aprons and baking haha)

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[info]borderbasher
2008-08-08 05:08 pm UTC (link)
i guess i could still use lolita dresses for that!

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[info]mint_cake
2008-08-08 05:14 pm UTC (link)
Some of the lolita's I know and most admire, have children. I do not think that having kids should mean an end to wearing lolita. Afterall its just clothing. Though I do think you have a point, in that it may not be a bad idea to re-think what kind of loli outfits would be aceptable whe going out with your kids.

I've always been a beliver though, in that if your going to do something, you might as well go all the wa! Why not matching outfits for you and your kids! I think that would be super cute. My husband and I are close to that "so.. Should we think about having kids" age. I know if I had a baby boy or girl, I'd be all about the matching outfits!

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[info]muier_noir
2008-08-08 05:30 pm UTC (link)
I think you and Jun will have the cutest children EVER.

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[info]muier_noir
2008-08-08 05:29 pm UTC (link)
I have a 9 year old son and I really think that one of the most important lessons you can teach a child is that it's ok to be yourself. Even if others think you're a little weird. That said, I don't wear full on lolita to school events or soccer practice or anywhere that the attention should be on my totally awesome kid and not my outfit.
My husband and I think we are finally ready to try for a second baby and if we have a little girl I am totally buying matching shirley temple outfits for her every time I buy an emily temple cute outfit for myself. At least until she's old enough to decide what she wants to wear.
I'd love to see a photo post of you all dressed up with your girls!
Gratuitous photo of my son:
what are you lookin' at?

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[info]spinafewtimes
2008-08-08 05:56 pm UTC (link)
that's adorable, and I totally agree with you. I'm never gonna stop being myself and dressing however I want, and I'm going to teach my kid to be super open minded :]

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[info]harlekini
2008-08-08 06:19 pm UTC (link)
I would never give it up in the first place and when I got the kid I'd dress it as frilly as myself! XDDDD

My nightmare scenario is the whole soccer-mom thing.

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[info]accelagirl
2008-08-08 06:56 pm UTC (link)
I totally agree with [info]muier_noir's message - I'm pretty sure my mom was the person who instilled this total "wear the style you like" mentality in me, and that affected me completely. I think you should wear whatever you like, regardless of how it makes you look~ Maybe not to soccer games and parent-teacher conferences, but everything else, yeah.

Oddly enough, my mom came to America at a weird time and still kept her weird fashion sense when I was a kid. I would always wonder why she didn't try to 'fit in' and dress normally, because she always had some crazy eclectic way of dressing. In grade school, I had to deal with the 6-month-long rumor that my mom was a stripper because she went to some function in thigh high black boots and some crazy outfit (she was really into high fashion replicas that she and her sister would make, and this was early '90s... so the high fashion was... interesting) and that annoyed me for a while.

But then when I started dressing like how I wanted in middle school and got crap for that from other people (I liked lime green and baby pink outfits haha) I started slowly understanding her. In high school I was still given "wtf" looks, but now I'm covered in nothing but compliments when I go out (granted, I work in the art world and the people I'm around are all weird in their own way).

Ack, I started rambling...

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[info]deprileo
2008-08-08 07:12 pm UTC (link)
I don't even know if I really still want to wear Lolita when I'm around 30 (I don't want children earlier)...I think I'll do it until I am 25 and then I change into more victorian styles...I would love to dress my kid(s) in Shirley Temple stuff :3


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[info]blakniteludlam
2008-08-08 08:10 pm UTC (link)
I personally don't have children unless you count my dolls and cats.

However I believe you should be yourself where ever you are, it is an important message that will be received by your children.
I am working on making my first Loli clothing, and I take at least one doll almost everywhere with me. I went to a business convention with my company and spoke with a couple regional vice presidents, who make over $100,000 a year and they all loved the fact that I stood out from the crowd.

Your children may in the future when they get to preschool and elementary may both like and dislike your choice in clothing, but they will always be able to find you in the crowd of other moms, cute and frilly stands out, and know that you are there supporting them in everything they do.

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[info]chickiecherry
2008-08-08 08:21 pm UTC (link)
i don't read all the post ..but in the future if you buy some dress lolita for your baby, Shirley Temple makes good ones..

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[info]kamikaze_musa
2008-08-08 08:47 pm UTC (link)
I would love to have kids someday, if I ever find Mr. Right :) I'm 22, and all my friends from High School already have kids (wah! running out of time!) I can't picture what I would wear after I became a mother. I would probably stick with lolita if my interest was still there. I love the pictures in GLB of mommy and daddy aristos and their aristo kids, it's so cute! I don't think becoming a mother should change what is inherently you, I say rock the lolita look if it's what you truely love!!

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[info]shelbycloud
2008-08-08 08:47 pm UTC (link)
I don't know whose picture this is, but I found it on Google. I think its so cute! The little girl has a fruits parlor replica!

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1323/812425826_7af11ef4f7.jpg%3Fv%3D0&imgrefurl=http://flickr.com/photos/12248865%40N00/812425826&h=500&w=355&sz=120&hl=en&start=11&um=1&tbnid=hwb4-3QRbRBn7M:&tbnh=130&tbnw=92&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dangelic%2Bpretty%2Bkids%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den

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[info]treesdancealone
2008-08-08 08:51 pm UTC (link)
That is an adorable picture

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[info]waldmaer
2008-08-08 08:51 pm UTC (link)
Oh, i would dress my babys in Lolita too XDDD Nono, but i think i won't stop wearing Lolita when i have children...Or when i'm pregnant! Well, maybe i wouldn't wear Sweet so often but Classic is perfect for a mommy. Make your children proud ^-^

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[info]pinkwigs
2008-08-08 09:22 pm UTC (link)
I wear lolita on special occasions, and when I'm with my other lolita friends. I don't think everyday lolita would be to practical for you or your kids, but if you find a fun event like a meetup, gathering, holiday or outing to the ballet, why not dress up and have fun, while still teaching your kids that they can dress how they want.

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[info]2cent_lolita
2008-08-08 09:34 pm UTC (link)
i've been thinking about kids vs. lolita for a long time now (especially due to the nature of my current relationship) and my main concern would be being able to wear lolita WHILE being prego...that would be the one thing that would make me sad. But when I start having children, I will force them to dress all pretty and frilly with me untill they are old enough to decide for themselves...but i would still be partial to recomending things that they'd look cute in...and i'd really hope that they'd like lolita as well! :D

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[info]elfie78
2008-08-08 09:58 pm UTC (link)
I think an empire wasted loli dress would look so adorable on a pregnant woman. I am a 30 year old, and I wear even sweet sometimes *gasp*. I only stay away from the really over the top sweet. I'm not planning to have children anytime soon, but I doubt it would make me stop. A lot of what makes loli good for me is that I'm doing something I really like despite other peoples opinions. I so totally agree with muier_noir!

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[info]pinkwigs
2008-08-08 11:13 pm UTC (link)
Hey, if you can pull it off then who cares about age?

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[info]monchoufleur
2008-08-08 11:31 pm UTC (link)
I'll probably keep on buying the same things, but wear them differently. Or accessorize with differently. Like, instead of having a giant, lacy bow on top of the head, it'll be at the base of a low ponytail. And strappy Valentino pumps instead of bubble-toed Baby platforms.
Becoming a parent doesn't have to mean the end of having fun and a personality. Although, I 'd at least tone it down during applications for foster parenthood. Just so I don't get dismissed as totally bonkers.

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[info]ellorgast
2008-08-09 12:23 am UTC (link)
I think it's important not to lose yourself after you have children. It's also important to still feel like you're beautiful. Once you're past the stage when anything greater than a t-shirt is just impractical, I don't see why you shouldn't treat yourself to a little over-the-top frilliness.

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