The Beej™ ([info]the_beej) wrote in [info]easternmichigan,
@ 2006-04-19 12:48:00
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Free Speech

The anti-abortion activists are out on campus today. About an hour ago they were in front of Porter, right across from the Children's Institute (during their recess time of course). Thankfully they moved over to McKenny, where they are now.

The oddest thing of all is that there are a few children activists--specifically this little girl with the sign. I can't tell if she looks bored or determined, but I'm sure she's proud of this and feels important. She approached me to pass out a flyer, which I politely declined. Shouldn't she be in school today? [Edit: she's probably on spring break.]

I spared you the gory details of her poster, but I'll let you make your own opinions about this.

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[info]nazonatte69
2006-04-19 04:51 pm UTC (link)
What's the board say?

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[info]the_beej
2006-04-19 04:53 pm UTC (link)
It's a picture of an aborted fetus.

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(no subject) - [info]r_anne_k, 2006-04-19 04:55 pm UTC
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[info]the_blonde
2006-04-19 05:00 pm UTC (link)
eww how could the little girl even look at the poster. When I was her age, I didn't know anything about abortion and I didn't want to.

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[info]naughtykoolaid
2006-04-19 05:04 pm UTC (link)
most schools have their spring/"easter" break this week, so she is probably on vacation

and i saw them outside porter.. and it's disgusting. i'm glad they moved away from the children's institute.

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[info]the_beej
2006-04-19 05:05 pm UTC (link)
Ah, you're probably right Jen. Thanks for the correction.

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(no subject) - [info]naughtykoolaid, 2006-04-19 08:00 pm UTC

[info]nemesis_divina
2006-04-19 05:09 pm UTC (link)
I think the posters are pretty offensive. I'm pro choice and those posters don't change my mind. If anything I'm more interested in looking at the anatomy of the fetus. Either way. I think it's an overly obscene way to get the point across.

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[info]dani5162
2006-04-19 08:13 pm UTC (link)
I agree. Plus it's playing on people's sympathies instead of exploring facts. And that just plain sucks.

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(no subject) - [info]saline_eyes, 2006-04-19 10:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dani5162, 2006-04-19 11:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]saline_eyes, 2006-04-19 11:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nemesis_divina, 2006-04-20 01:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hurleycrewgrl, 2006-04-20 02:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nemesis_divina, 2006-04-20 12:47 pm UTC

[info]magik_maker1
2006-04-19 05:10 pm UTC (link)
Woooo for taking your children out of school so that they can picket for your one-sided morals. And what a jerk, pulling the sympathy card like that. Five bucks says he's mentioned to a couple of people, "Hey, you see this picture of a dead fetus? If my wife and I had been a liberal baby-killers, this could have been that little girl over there..."

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The irony of free speech
[info]eltacorico
2006-04-19 05:11 pm UTC (link)
She's free to think whatever daddy wants her to think.

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Re: The irony of free speech
[info]skeptictank
2006-04-19 09:18 pm UTC (link)
Sad thing is that most children like that grow up to be adults who can't think for themselves either and it's hardly even their fault with parents like this dude.

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[info]fivefootaznfury
2006-04-19 05:12 pm UTC (link)
i believe some kids are on spring break this week.

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[info]efiltaeluri
2006-04-19 05:17 pm UTC (link)
while i am anti abortion, i will say that it is AWFUL that that girl is probably 7 and doesn't have a clue what abortion is and it's so sad that her parents probably pushed their opinions on her and she'll never be able to decide what she really thinks about abortion. :(

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[info]efiltaeluri
2006-04-19 05:19 pm UTC (link)
pro life, rather.

AND, I DIDN'T ATTACK ANYONE WITH THE PREVIOUS COMMENT SO NOBODY ATTACK MY OPINIONS. mama don't want no drama.

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(no subject) - [info]eltacorico, 2006-04-19 06:06 pm UTC

[info]mjktool
2006-04-19 05:48 pm UTC (link)
I saw them today too. I really wanted to go bitch them out for making their child part of it.

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[info]dzwonkophia
2006-04-19 05:49 pm UTC (link)
I'm going to keep personal opinons out of this as much as possible, but I am REALLY glad that they moved away from the Children's Institute. As an employee there for the last four years, I know that we have too much on our plates before we have to deal with our children being beraided (sp.?) by such grotesque images. And regardless of where I stand on the issue, I don't think that anyone who sees those pictures, even those held by the kids, are going to be shocked into changing their beliefs. I can only imagine the conversation leading up to the kids joining their parents "wake up honey! Since you have no school today, come help daddy. Time to go pass out our propaganda to the sinners!!"

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[info]jeebs1984
2006-04-19 05:52 pm UTC (link)
My parents use to do that, granted, their posters just said 'Pro-Life' and didn't try to shock people into believing what they believed. But they had me stand out with them one day when I was seven or eight. I thought it was a pain in the ass.

But I hate those pictures. Not even mentioning my political beliefs or whatever: those pictures make me sick and I wish they would leave me alone where I eat/shout "What is up?".

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[info]saucegirl
2006-04-19 06:09 pm UTC (link)
For a second there, my friend, I thought you meant that you eat "What is up?"

It amused me for about three seconds until I realized that I'm stupid.

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[info]h20_buffalo
2006-04-19 06:15 pm UTC (link)
I really wish people would leave kids out of it. I can't imagine that 8 year old girl actually knows what the hell she's talking about. If they are going to protest something they should do so with people who actually know a thing or two about the subject, and have lived long enough to experience at least some of it first hand. As a pro lifer, it frustrates me beyond belief to see stupid shit like this. And those stupid posters are more obnoxious than persuasive. I have never heard of someone actually changing their mind about anything after seeing a picture of an aborted or stillborn baby.

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[info]dani5162
2006-04-19 08:17 pm UTC (link)
Exactly. I'm pro-choice but I respect pro-lifers' opinions when they present them in a way that's respectful of my opinions too. Showing me pictures of aborted fetuses doesn't make me pro-life, it makes me want to kick a pro-life person's ass. Plus I don't like kids so the pictures don't do much for me :P

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[info]wantonasshole
2006-04-19 06:16 pm UTC (link)


Who's hungry for stew?

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[info]nemesis_divina
2006-04-19 07:13 pm UTC (link)
I have A Modest Proposal for you.

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(no subject) - [info]wantonasshole, 2006-04-19 10:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nemesis_divina, 2006-04-20 01:40 am UTC

[info]racangel03
2006-04-19 06:23 pm UTC (link)
I'm gonna leave my opinion on the issue out, but honestly protesters make me really mad. Whether you think pro life is right or if you think pro choice is right...the fact of the matter is that people are going to do what they want no matter what other people tell them. Protesting is a waste of time! Let people think for themselves...that's the marvelous thing about the human race is that we can think for ourselves. Have your opinion on the issue and keep it to yourself. And if you do tell others...do it respectfully.

*gets off soap box*

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[info]ashesbear
2006-04-19 06:31 pm UTC (link)
Protesting is a waste of time. But a protest is used for a symbolic statement. Which is all fine and dandy.

HOWEVER. Using photoshopped motive arousal stillbirths is an attempt to go out and piss people off. Hell, even the pro-lifers are offended.

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[info]det_john_kimble
2006-04-19 06:39 pm UTC (link)
I'm going to inject opinion in to this. How do we know the child hasn't made up their own choice? I bet that child is glad her parents didn't have an abortion, and none of her friends' parents had an abortion, and doesn't want you to have one either (well, some of you just shouldn't reproduce whatsoever).

I think that what they're doing is great! It's about time somebody stood up to all the liberal babykillers out there. This campus is full of them, and if I didn't have class and work today, I'd go out there and help pass stuff out. Shame on all of you for not doing the same!

Sinners.

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[info]wantonasshole
2006-04-19 07:13 pm UTC (link)
People don't hit the age at which they start thinking for themselves until sometime between 20 and 80 years old. Her opinions are her parents' opinions, even if she is absolutely convinced she has made up her own mind.

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[info]freakanddorkin1
2006-04-19 07:02 pm UTC (link)
I went to a counter-protest in Ann Arbor a few months back where they were southern baptist protesting against showing the Laramie's Project at U of M, and the same thing happened. Young Children being forced to hold signs saying shit like "Fags will burn in Hell." and "Thank god Matthew Sheperd is gone.", and they're forced to think a certain way, and scream certian words. I can't believe parents would do that to children so...viguriously. They're not even old enough to tie their own shoes, let alone make their own opinions.

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[info]the_blonde
2006-04-19 07:37 pm UTC (link)
she drinks sprite

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[info]somocozie6
2006-04-19 07:40 pm UTC (link)
If they aren't willing to pay for the medical bills during the pregnancy, and supporting the mother and child after birth and pitch in to be a sitter, and help raise the child, then they have no buisness telling me what to do with my body.

If they don't want an abortion, they don't have to have one!

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[info]saline_eyes
2006-04-19 08:37 pm UTC (link)
free clinics and adoption?

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(no subject) - [info]skeptictank, 2006-04-19 09:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]saline_eyes, 2006-04-19 10:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]skeptictank, 2006-04-19 10:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]saline_eyes, 2006-04-19 10:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]skeptictank, 2006-04-19 10:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]saline_eyes, 2006-04-19 10:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]skeptictank, 2006-04-19 10:55 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]det_john_kimble, 2006-04-20 08:43 pm UTC
ha ha ha - [info]pfrank, 2006-04-20 09:18 pm UTC
Re: ha ha ha - [info]det_john_kimble, 2006-04-21 05:46 am UTC

[info]edmcsaba
2006-04-19 08:08 pm UTC (link)
Aw man, I'm kinda bummed I missed this.
I probably would've kicked their shins then ran away... that would show 'em.

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[info]errlwayne
2006-04-19 08:32 pm UTC (link)
oh my god oh my god oh my god i can't wait to go see those dicks with ears!!!!!

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[info]xellebellex
2006-04-19 08:40 pm UTC (link)
Wow, first of all it is completly inapproptiate to be protesting abortion using graphic signs outside a freakin CHILDREN'S INSTITUTE!!! I know if I were a little kid and saw those signs, I'd be a little traumatized. I'm glad they moved (hopefully due to a complaint).

What I would rather see instead of this disgusting protest are people passing out information on the various kinds of birth control (pills, condoms, etc). I think educating people on how to prevent pregnancy in the first place is a much better solution than throwing it in people's faces that abortion is wrong and terrible. The more people who become educated and make smart decisions to prevent pregnancy, the less people there will be who become pregnant and want an abortion-sounds simple, doesn't it? (this obviously doesn't apply to rape victims,however) I know this would probably still be annoying to some people on campus, especially since most people already know the different ways to prevent pregnancy, but there are still some people who are stupid and make bad decisions regarding sex, and I think in the longrun educating them would more likely prevent them from getting an abortion in the future than seeing a photo of a dead fetus. (sorry, that was totally a run-on sentence there lol)

Unfortunatly, these people seem like extremists and probably don't support birth control either and believe that sex is only meant for producing babies...so they would probably be the last people to pass out information on birth control...

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[info]nemesis_divina
2006-04-19 08:51 pm UTC (link)
And they probably wouldn't adopt any babies either despite saying it's an alternative for abortion.

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[info]claine1283
2006-04-19 09:00 pm UTC (link)
Those bitches better not be out there tomorrow or Wayne Brady is gonna choke a bitch for real. I don't need that crap before a final.

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[info]det_john_kimble
2006-04-20 01:22 am UTC (link)
WHAT

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[info]preludebolero
2006-04-19 09:23 pm UTC (link)
When does anyone really think for themselves? Values and beliefs are just pieces of experiences that you have endured put together like a puzzle. You believe what you do because of a mix of your parents telling you, your religion (ex. what makes you wrong/right), the media (ex. male/female gender roles), and your friends.

Even if you do "think for yourself" at 20 and beyond, your thoughts are more based on 'what are the consequences for me thinking this way" rather than "I will believe in this, completely arbitrarily to anything else!"

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[info]skeptictank
2006-04-19 09:24 pm UTC (link)
I'm half tempted to go buy a few pints of paint for my trip thru campus tomorrow. It'd be mighty inconvenient to have their posters and clothing ruined so early in the day...

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[info]jeebs1984
2006-04-20 02:03 am UTC (link)
GOOD CALL!

you're so responsible.

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(no subject) - [info]skeptictank, 2006-04-20 02:33 am UTC

[info]preludebolero
2006-04-19 09:24 pm UTC (link)
If you eat an egg, is that chicken abortion?

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[info]racangel03
2006-04-19 10:11 pm UTC (link)
YES IT IS!! WE SHOULD GO PROTEST IT BY SHOWING DELICIOUS PICTURES OF SCRAMBLED EGGS!!!! tee hee

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(no subject) - [info]the_beej, 2006-04-19 11:37 pm UTC
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