dw_academy: The Official dw_academy End of Series Poll

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The Official dw_academy End of Series Poll - Series 30 (4)
Poll #1218593 The Official DWA End of Series Poll
Open to: All, detailed results viewable to: All

Series 30 (4) was:

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Ace!
66 (53.7%)

Arse!
9 (7.3%)

Acceptable!
48 (39.0%)

It was...

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better than last year
70 (55.6%)

worse than last year
19 (15.1%)

of similar quality to last year
37 (29.4%)

Out of ten, I would give it:

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Mean: 7.20 Median: 8 Std. Dev 1.59

1	1 (0.8%)
2	2 (1.6%)
3	1 (0.8%)
4	7 (5.7%)
5	5 (4.1%)
6	9 (7.3%)
7	30 (24.4%)
8	53 (43.1%)
9	13 (10.6%)
10	2 (1.6%)

The Best story was:

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1, Partners in Crime
1 (0.8%)

2, The Fires of Pompeii
19 (15.3%)

3, Planet of the Ood
3 (2.4%)

4/5, The Sontaran Strategem/The Poison Sky
2 (1.6%)

6, The Doctor's Daughter
1 (0.8%)

7, The Unicorn and the Wasp
11 (8.9%)

8/9, Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead
32 (25.8%)

10, Midnight
27 (21.8%)

11, Turn Left
14 (11.3%)

12/13, The Stolen Earth/Journey's End
14 (11.3%)

The Worst story was:

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1, Partners in Crime
10 (8.1%)

2, The Fires of Pompeii
5 (4.1%)

3, Planet of the Ood
14 (11.4%)

4/5, The Sontaran Strategem/The Poison Sky
20 (16.3%)

6, The Doctor's Daughter
22 (17.9%)

7, The Unicorn and the Wasp
13 (10.6%)

8/9, Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead
3 (2.4%)

10, Midnight
6 (4.9%)

11, Turn Left
4 (3.3%)

12/13, The Stolen Earth/Journey's End
26 (21.1%)

Ten's fake regeneration was:

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Ace!
12 (9.4%)

Arse!
8 (6.2%)

Acceptable!
44 (34.4%)

A total cop out
64 (50.0%)

The ending of Donna's arc was:

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Ace!
9 (7.1%)

Arse!
8 (6.3%)

Acceptable!
15 (11.8%)

The cruellest end possible, especially for Bernard Cribbins
95 (74.8%)

The ending of Rose's arc was

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Ace!
6 (4.7%)

Arse!
39 (30.5%)

Acceptable!
26 (20.3%)

A blessed relief; please let her be finally gone now
57 (44.5%)

How do you feel about Rusty leaving?

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Ecstatic!
32 (25.0%)

Fairly happy
37 (28.9%)

Ambivalent, unsure, or not bothered
41 (32.0%)

A bit sad
16 (12.5%)

Suicidal
2 (1.6%)

How do you Feel about The Grand Moff taking over?

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Ecstatic!
46 (35.9%)

Fairly happy
52 (40.6%)

Ambivalent, unsure, or not bothered
28 (21.9%)

A bit sad
0 (0.0%)

Suicidal
2 (1.6%)

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neth_dugan
2008-07-06 10:00 am UTC (link)

When I say vote for cruellest thing possible it's more because.... not because it was badly done but because it's so heart braking and DONNA. Also, no more Wilf. These two things, combined, are well done but damned cruel. Oh Donna, I shall miss you for you are made of win - or were.

Oh, and I picked the Sontaran due for worst episode but there ISN'T really a worst, this season had no episode that made me go 'Oh My God, NOOOOOO' or go 'yup, liked that the least' like the other seasons did.

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miss_s_b
2008-07-06 10:13 am UTC (link)

When I say vote for cruellest thing possible it's more because.... not because it was badly done but because it's so heart braking and DONNA. Also, no more Wilf. These two things, combined, are well done but damned cruel.

Good! That was what I was going for!

ETA: I mean, that was the emotion I meant to capture in that option, not that I was happy to see Donna recieve that fate...

Edited at 2008-07-06 10:13 am UTC

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	neth_dugan 2008-07-06 10:49 am UTC (link)
	I figured that's what you meant, lol (Reply to this)(Parent)

	meegat 2008-07-06 10:17 am UTC (link)
	That end was just abhorrent - the worst possible fate for Donna AND for Wilf. As to the rest...well I couldn't care less now that RTD is leaving. And I couldn't care less about Moffat taking over because I think we'll see more of the emo relationship shite crowbarred in. I'll give him six episodes to impress me before I finally stop watching for good. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	miss_s_b 2008-07-06 10:34 am UTC (link)
	* hug * You'll always have Ainley!Master... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	meegat 2008-07-06 10:57 am UTC (link)
	LOL Thank god for that!! I would honestly take the crappest Classic Who episode and enjoy it ten times more than THAT finale. It was technobabble and fanwank - all in one package. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	miss_s_b 2008-07-06 10:58 am UTC (link)
	What, even TimeSlash? ;) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	meegat 2008-07-06 11:20 am UTC (link)
	Timelash was as richly plotted and characterised as Lord of the Rings compared to THAT finale. (Reply to this)(Parent)

pmoodie
2008-07-06 10:22 am UTC (link)

I thought it did a pretty good job of tying up all the loose ends, and although the regenerating/hand stuff was a bit of a cop-out, it could be a good way to be rid of Rose. It didn't quite live up to the promise of last week's episode, but it was a hell of a lot better than last year's final episode. And I think it was quite brave to end the episode on such a downer, with the Doctor left all alone again. Nice. :)

But I worry that the fact the Doctor has a semi-human clone out there will be too much of a temptation for future scriptwriters, so I wouldn't be too shocked to see Rose return yet again in the future.

Edited at 2008-07-06 10:23 am UTC

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	miss_s_b 2008-07-06 10:25 am UTC (link)
	I worry about that too. (Reply to this)(Parent)

muffin_nuffin
2008-07-06 10:36 am UTC (link)

Given that Ive seen a total of 7 episodes out of the whole thing (Partners in Crime, which was shite, The Library 2 Parter, Midnight and the three finale episodes) I couldn't judge which I thought was the best or whether the series was better or not.

However, I forsee the whole thing vastly improving now that Catherine Tate has gone (which was my reasoning for not watching this series anyway) but Donna's fate was very sad indeed.

The regeneration was a cop out. Read my journal entry on it...

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	frankymole 2008-07-06 11:54 am UTC (link)
	There was nothing in Series 4 that was "up there" with the likes of "Human Nature/FoB", but then that story had been years in the writing. But thank flip that Rose is gone along with her sexdoll Doctor. (Reply to this)

sovietkiki
2008-07-06 12:08 pm UTC (link)

1. I think that, overall, the series was ace. Series 4 and Series 1 are the only consistently brilliant series - 2, for me, was ruined by the Doctor/Rose dynamic and stories that were more suited to children than adults. Series 3 was good until the Dalek arc (wtf) and the final episode, but I enjoyed the rest of it despite Martha's delegation to rebound girl for the Doctor.

2. Better than last year.

3. I gave it 9, because there were one or two wobbly bits.

4. My favourite story was Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead. Because the Moff wrote it, Alex Kingston starred in it, and it was sort-of about the power of books. ♥

5. It was hard to vote for a worst story because I liked all of them, so I chose "Planet of the Ood". It felt like a set-up story for the rest of the season, which it turned out to be.

6. I already knew what was going to happen to Ten's so-called regeneration, so I had no expectations for the show to live up to. Personally I thought it made a lot of sense, and helped to tie-up most of Rusty's plots.

7. I feel so, so bad for Donna and Wilf. The scene where Ten takes her memories away but she's stood there crying and begging him not to really teared me up - as did the final conversation Wilf holds with the Doctor. I hope that Wilf and Sylvia learn that Donna can do more (well, I never doubted Wilf in that respect) and encourage her to make more of herself. I'd like to see her in an SJ kind of role, like she was in "Partners in Crime".

8. The ending of Rose's arc was ace, because it tied up the lose ends and gave Rose a new direction in life now that she had found the Doctor. A lot of people are complaining and saying "well it goes to show that if you whine for long enough you get what you want", etc., but honestly...what else were they supposed to do with the clone? Kill him in cold blood? That would have pissed me off, especially with the anti-violence message from the episode. At the end of the day, it pleased the batchippers, it pleased the fans who never wanted the Doctor to say "I love you" back to Rose, and it got rid of the character completely.

9. I was talking about this with mum earlier, and I'm kind of in a tizz now because of it. Before series 4 I would tell anybody who would listen that I thought Rusty was pants and that I was glad he was leaving, but imho this series really showed that he'd pulled himself together. His stories are still a little weak (they're fun to watch but afterwards you realise that not a lot happened) but I definitely think his dialogue/directions got better. So, I dunno. I think it's time for a change for him because he seems to be getting a little too big for his own head.

10. THE MOFF IS AWESOME ALRIGHT. He did Jekyll and The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances and he's writing the script for the new Tintin film and omgggg I luff him. /fansquee. I'm hoping the series will take a slightly darker direction under his reign, as Rusty's at times seemed very happy-go-lucky. And really, a lot of the Old Series serials were not happy-go-lucky.

Also: I am accidentally reading a Terrence Dicks novel. WHY DID I PICK IT UP. ARGH. Shoot me, SB. D:

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	miss_s_b 2008-07-06 12:43 pm UTC (link)
	I refuse. Shooting people is bad. HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING FROM SARAH JANE? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sovietkiki 2008-07-06 12:44 pm UTC (link)
	;_; Srry, Sarah-Jane. I shall try to be a better person in the future. :3 (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	miss_s_b 2008-07-06 01:05 pm UTC (link)
	Good! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sushigal007 2008-07-06 01:36 pm UTC (link)
	what else were they supposed to do with the clone? Send him to 1913 to be with Joan. ^^ (Reply to this)(Parent)

ladyvoldything
2008-07-06 05:56 pm UTC (link)

I see you EVERYWHERE. <3 Also, I love the "so-and-so is pants" phrase. You British types have such better slang than we do.

I don't think we'll ever see Donna again, if the writers have any integrity- any memory on her part would kill her, right? Such a pity, I thought she was the best companion yet. Not in the first two episodes, maybe, but after she got over being shrill and stroppy she was excellent. I cried so much and may or may not have cursed Rusty's mother during that scene.

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	quod_scripsi 2008-07-06 01:20 pm UTC (link)
	'nuff said. --j (Reply to this)(Thread)

	miss_s_b 2008-07-06 01:31 pm UTC (link)
	I have Break Like the Wind in my head now... (Reply to this)(Parent)

rushikayu13
2008-07-06 01:32 pm UTC (link)

...The series on the whole was decent, if not as awesome as I would have liked. Even Turn Left -apart from Rose's emo- had redeeming features. And I liked the Library arc, but the ending...it would have been a good series if they hadn't ended it like that.

I don't like Rose, I'm not particularly fond of Ten and the one companion that I've really actually liked in the new series had to be the one that couldn't be brought back. ~~And there's me thinking that mind-wiping companions went out with Two. D:~~

Also? Knowing that any crossing of the Void may have a risk of a further Dalek army popping out -as well as Cybermen- why the hell do Jackie and Mickey risk it? Then Ten risks it later to drop them off, which you know, if he'd missed Rose that much, why didn't he do that at the end of Doomsday? D:

And this is not mentioning the plot hole about how Mickey originally didn't stay in the parallel for Rose. He stayed to help Jake fix post-Cyberman London. Therefore, he did indeed have a reason to go back.

Unless he'd discovered how to make a perfect society. D:

And...look, I'm not even going to go into my thoughts of the whole clone thing. D:

I'm happy about RTD leaving, although...I don't know. I didn't enjoy Blink as much as seemingly everyone else, and Human Nature/Family of Blood was good, but didn't hold my interest for that long. I'm yet to be convinced, I guess.

*secretly hopes for the Valeyard to show up next series, will almost certainly be disappointed on that count*

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	miss_s_b 2008-07-06 02:32 pm UTC (link)
	Michael Jayston FTW! :D (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

rushikayu13
2008-07-06 02:57 pm UTC (link)

It would make a change from constantly seeing the Daleks and the Cybermen. And...well, there's a lot of New! Who fans that need to see the consequences of what the Doctor's been doing over the past three (I'll count Eight, because from what I can remember, he started the Time War and left Nine to finish it) regenerations. :D

*isn't just suggesting it because she likes Michael Jayston, seriously* XD

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	ladyvoldything 2008-07-06 06:02 pm UTC (link)
	I would love for some consequences to show up next series, personally. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	rushikayu13 2008-07-07 07:29 pm UTC (link)
	They should. The Doctor's become far too complacent in the last few series (I keep wanting to use serii for the plural of series, but it can't be right, can it?) and could do with a (non-Dalek, non-Cybermen or non-Torchwood) shock to keep him on his toes. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ladyvoldything 2008-07-08 03:58 am UTC (link)
	I've never seen the old series, so what sort of consequences could show up? What's he been complacent about, exactly? I mean, he doesn't exactly have Gallifreyan law to answer to anymore. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	miss_s_b 2008-07-08 09:21 am UTC (link)
	To be fair, he never voluntarilyanswered to Gallifreyan law anyway. But it would be nice if somebody he cares about died because of his stupidity. Well, not NICE, but you know what I mean. Sadly with Steven "Everybody Lives!" Moffat in charge, I see that as unlikely. (Reply to this)(Parent)

little_smaug
2008-07-06 01:33 pm UTC (link)

Best story/worst story is quite difficult for me. The last 3 series have all had at least one episode that I absolutely loved and one that I absolutely hated. This series pretty much levelled out for me, with every episode having bits that I liked and bits that I didn't like.

I'm sad that Donna is gone, which surprises me given my initial feelings when I heard she was coming back full time. But Catherine Tate really proved herself as a serious actress, and if it weren't for those occasional moments when she reverts to her annoying comedienne persona I think she'd be my favourite new companion so far. She also had the most likeable family so far. I'll miss Wilf. :(

I'm unsure about the Rusty/Moff take-over. I think that a change could be a good idea, maybe a different direction for the show. And for the first 3 series Moffat's stories were consistently the best. On the other hand, I think that the reason Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead didn't wow me was because Moffat changed his style to more closely resemble Rusty, which worries me. If Moffat sticks to his own style then the next series could be brilliant. But if he attempts to imitate Rusty for fear of upsetting all the new!Who fans who like the silliness and romance then it could be awful. I really don't think there's any way to predict ahead of time which direction he'll take.

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miss_s_b
2008-07-06 02:33 pm UTC (link)

I'm unsure about the Rusty/Moff take-over. I think that a change could be a good idea, maybe a different direction for the show. And for the first 3 series Moffat's stories were consistently the best. On the other hand, I think that the reason Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead didn't wow me was because Moffat changed his style to more closely resemble Rusty, which worries me. If Moffat sticks to his own style then the next series could be brilliant. But if he attempts to imitate Rusty for fear of upsetting all the new!Who fans who like the silliness and romance then it could be awful. I really don't think there's any way to predict ahead of time which direction he'll take.

These are pretty much my thoughts on the matter. Plus, Moff is vvvvvv sexist, and Who had enough of that under Rusty...

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sushigal007
2008-07-06 01:42 pm UTC (link)

The series was fine until the finale. There was simply no point at all to Rose coming back. All she did was hunt down the Doctor and then do fuck all. Well, I suppose you could argue that she was needed to set the universe straight during Turn Left, but after that, no use for her. In fact, nobody did anything in the end, you might as well as just had DoctorDonna, DonnaDoctor and Doctor.
Still, she's gone now. With a shiny DoctorDoll as a trophy of her overwhelming specialness. Let's never bring her back ever again please?

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	miss_s_b 2008-07-06 02:31 pm UTC (link)
	Life size Doctor Sex Toys are the next big thing from Character, I bet you. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	staceyuk 2008-07-06 03:17 pm UTC (link)
	falls over laughing (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sushigal007 2008-07-06 05:36 pm UTC (link)
	I can see it now. "David Ten-Inch" with vibrating sonic action! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	donna_c_punk 2008-07-06 06:48 pm UTC (link)
	Did you ever read that Short Trips story where Iris Wildthyme was making sex dolls of the Fourth Doctor? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	miss_s_b 2008-07-06 07:30 pm UTC (link)
	No :( * flagellates self * Although, to be fair, I can't bloody STAND Iris Wildthyme, mainly because of Katy Manning (I get why Americans hate Peri now) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

donna_c_punk
2008-07-06 07:34 pm UTC (link)

It was quite an amusing read. Romana II's reaction to the women of England going bats over pleasure androids which looked just like the Doctor was hilarious. "They're acting like that ... over something which looks like you?" "Yes." "0.o. GTFO." Not the exact dialogue, mind, but that's how it broke down. In Four/Romana II speak. I'll look it up and tell you which story, so you can read it. Iris herself isn't in it much, if that helps.

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	miss_s_b 2008-07-06 09:19 pm UTC (link)
	Thankee! :D (Reply to this)(Parent)

	davegodfrey 2008-07-06 06:09 pm UTC (link)
	I'd like to see the Ice Warriors return, especially if we get some chronology-muddling stuff. I'd like to see the "finale" halfway through the series, with the series finale explaining the beginning. (Reply to this)

	donna_c_punk 2008-07-06 06:47 pm UTC (link)
	I would've given the series an 8 or possibly a 9 but that bullshit finale burned by ass. SO HARD. (Reply to this)

joolz01
2008-07-06 09:04 pm UTC (link)

I'm glad to see the back end of Rose, but I feel sorry for her, too. She really got screwed over. A Doctor who can get a job in an office, father lots of babies, watch Coronation Street, grow old and die with her isn't what she fell in love with. He looks like her Doctor, but is that enough? She'll be constantly reminded that he isn't her Doctor. Ouch.

Though, considering that he's got a big dollop of Donna in his head, maybe he will bully her into getting over it. Finally being able to sleep together might go a long way toward that, too! ;) Good luck to them!

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	Here's what I worry about for Rose miss_s_b 2008-07-06 09:24 pm UTC (link)
	A doctor born in the heat of battle and predisposed to violence with Donna's temper? Not going to make a good settling-down husband... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Here's what I worry about for Rose joolz01 2008-07-06 11:38 pm UTC (link)
	Good point! I hope it goes the route of playful bickering ending in tickle fights and great sex. Donna does have a demonstrable domestic side too. Since I'll probably never read Ten/Rose fic, I'll just keep that vision as my personal canon. LOL (Reply to this)(Parent)

anisiriusmagus
2008-07-07 11:11 am UTC (link)

I enjoyed the episode, but I kind of felt like a lot happened, but at the same time nothing much did. I guess I'd need to see it again a couple of times to work this out.
I cried like a soppy when Sarah Jane called K-9 to give Mr Smith the Tardis co-ordinates, but then I'm a big silly.

I felt really sorry for Wilf with the whole of Donna's ending. No-one actually died, but for Wilf, it seems like one of those fate worse than death type scenarios.

I was disappointed with the lack of Dalek and Davros action. Not much seemed to happen...mind, we cheered when Captain Jack got exterminated (even though we knew he'd get up again).

The Daleks in Germany yelling EX-TERMINARUNG or whatever it was made me chuckle.

I hope we've seen the last of Rose now that she has a Doctor of her very own to love and pet and call George...I doubt we've seen the last of her or the DonnaDoctor somehow.

I won't miss Rusty's lack of modesty...a newspaper article I read the other day which was an interview with RTD said he'd "watched (Journey's End) 15 times, it was so good" That attitude of his has always grated with me, I mean, it's OK to be proud of your work, but he goes over the top IMHO.

I think that's it for now.

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	padmez 2008-07-26 05:43 am UTC (link)
	I clicked "arse" for the ending of Rose's arc, not because I am sorry to see her go - little could make me happier - but because the ending was like some appalling fanfiction. (Reply to this)

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