dragoncon: Um, I read some bad news...

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sevedra) wrote in

dragoncon,
@ 2005-07-31 13:08:00

Um, I read some bad news...
Is there any possiblity this is true??

Joss Whedon put in a special appearance at the Angel Booster Bash tonight. He came as Alexis' date to the banquet this evening and while here told people he will not be at Dragoncon and he had never even been scheduled to be there.

http://whedonesque.com/comments/7410#more

I am looking forward to Joss. Could this be a big mistake?

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	djcati 2005-07-31 05:11 pm UTC (link)
	Aw... I was looking forward to that too, after finally watching Firefly... hmm... (Reply to this)

	cara_chapel 2005-07-31 05:15 pm UTC (link)
	I told someone on the concomm and they'll be looking into it. (Reply to this)

zamiel
2005-07-31 05:18 pm UTC (link)

If this is, in fact, the case, this is the scale of head-rolling mistakes on someone's part. The fact that the Con is promoting the appearance of a significant Guest without confirmation would be a notable blow, and given the net-savvy of the typical browncoat and Buffyverse fan, would result in significant, extremely verbal bad press moving by that most pernicious of vectors, word of mouth.

This definitely needs to be a priority clarification action on the part of the Con, likely with some kind of homepage update to get the "right" information out.

(Interestingly, the comments on your link suggest he was pretty clear about being in CT that weekend, which bolsters the potential truth value of that particular rumour.)

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	scyllacat 2005-07-31 08:45 pm UTC (link)
	I can always count on you to show up when there's trouble. ;) (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	zamiel 2005-07-31 11:39 pm UTC (link)
	I'm simply drawn to chum in the water. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	rgreeneyes 2005-08-01 12:17 am UTC (link)
	had to comment, this last entry made me laugh so hard. love the way you write. ;) (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	zamiel 2005-08-01 12:22 am UTC (link)
	Blame the cunning required by long years in a corporate environment while writing RPGs in one's spare time. The psychic ruptures are without limit. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	reannaremick 2005-07-31 05:18 pm UTC (link)
	Jewel herself told me in April that Joss was very excited about attending Dragon Con this year, and I know that he's scheduled for a minimum of 3 events - so I think someone might be confused. Either that or an emergency of some kind has come up (which does happen, unfortunately) and he'll be cancelling. However he wouldn't have "not known about being scheduled" that's BS. (Reply to this)

everyinchofme
2005-07-31 05:34 pm UTC (link)

I've seen stuff like this run both ways.

I've seen guests confirm for a convention--and then just NOT SHOW UP. (The local convention I go to gets this often, they have actually post the "sorry, but we can't come" letters as well.) Some have had valid reasons, others just decided that there was another convention (aka more money) that they'd rather go to at the last minute.

I've seen conventions list someone who hasn't confirmed yet, only to find out at the last minute that the person can't come. I've also worked for a first year convention that was so far out of it that they didn't inform all their guests as to what panels/etc they were booked for, so I had the unhappy job of informing them they needed to be someplace, when they thought they had free time.

And, recently, I saw it go both ways. The local con booked a guest that I'm friends with and he confirmed. Their slow on their website updating so he didn't make it up there at first. *Luckly*, they found out that he'd confirmed for another convention as well ON THE SAME WEEKEND. So, the sat down, talked to him, and tried to figure out what the hell happened--he's ultimately going to the other con, but better than listing him as a guest, when he isn't.

I have a feeling that the knee thing is what's keeping Joss out of ATL.

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	terracinque 2005-07-31 06:02 pm UTC (link)
	I have a feeling that the knee thing is what's keeping Joss out of ATL. That would explain it if he were cancelling, but since the report is that he was never scheduled in the first place it doesn't answer anything. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	it would be typical jolefay 2005-07-31 05:40 pm UTC (link)
	it happens quite often..thats why when I see big names I don't get to excited..I can't help but think they fudge the guest list sometimes.. (Reply to this)

	mistypaw 2005-07-31 06:24 pm UTC (link)
	Awww, thats gonna sux, i was so looking forward to seeing him for a variety of reasons... firefly, buffy, comics, movies.... nya. (Reply to this)

	laputasuicide 2005-07-31 06:49 pm UTC (link)
	please tell me that you have emailed dragoncon and stated that this is not so....that he will be there. (Reply to this)

	myras_girls 2005-07-31 07:13 pm UTC (link)
	I'm waiting to hear back from a friend with an inside source at DragonCon. But the news that Joss and some of the cast would be at DragonCon was also posted on the Official Serenity site so I find it hard to believe that Joss was NEVER scheduled. This "news" sounds fishy to me. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	osondrea 2005-07-31 08:42 pm UTC (link)
	Very appropriate icon. :) (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	rgreeneyes 2005-08-01 12:33 am UTC (link)
	just curious where did you get your icon? (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	osondrea 2005-08-01 03:50 pm UTC (link)
	You know, I honestly don't remember. I just snagged it from somewhere. Horrid, aren't I? (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	rgreeneyes 2005-08-01 04:06 pm UTC (link)
	funny thing is I made one like that once. wouldn't it be funny if that is mine? lol (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

osondrea
2005-08-01 04:10 pm UTC (link)

Oh, well, if you figure out that it is, I would definitely credit you. I just desperately wanted something with even the tiniest bit of animation, but something relatively small and simple. It just fit the bill.

Here's my other icon, based on the same premise.

I remember the start of this journal as a time when I was insane... now I wish I could remember what I did to find these.

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	rgreeneyes 2005-08-01 04:14 pm UTC (link)
	not positive it's from me, just had one similar. I doubt I had animation though. ;0) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	kernelm 2005-08-01 03:29 am UTC (link)
	That posting just meant some subset of "Joss and cast" would be at those cons. For example, Joss was definitely not at the London thing. And I believe it turned out nobody was at Wizard World Philly. (Reply to this) (Parent)

diamondmeadows
2005-07-31 07:16 pm UTC (link)

if it does turn out that he never really scheduled, I would be gobsmacked knowing that whoever did the guestlist would risk facing the wrath of however many fans going just for Joss.

his name's been up there for months, and I have enough faith with DragonCon's track record that they aren't purposely misleading anyone. guests have cancelled at the very last minute without forewarning (such as John Rhys Davies), but this is odd that he says he had never been scheduled.

anyway, I wasn't interested in seeing Joss Whedon at all, though I did want to see all his fans in their various costumes. I hope it works out for them.

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	ellenore 2005-07-31 07:18 pm UTC (link)
	Joss is at least on the schedule for the Buffy track-it's posted on their website. I'm sure this is just a mix-up. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	John Rhys Davies (Anonymous) 2005-08-02 09:06 pm UTC (link)
	Actually John Rhys Davies did one panel...on friday.. in the Morlock Tunnels...and only 200 people got in. He left immediatley thereafter to file Indi 4. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	nisie 2005-07-31 07:28 pm UTC (link)
	Went to http://www.josswhedon.net/ and checked under Events Calendar. He is listed for an apperance at DragonCon. Yes, this is fan run, but it is contrary to what another fan run page said. (Reply to this)

piraterogue
2005-07-31 07:36 pm UTC (link)

I have seen the latest guest list of confirmed guests, and not all of them are even on the Dragon*Con webpage,

I also know therte is a Track called Joss and the Girls that is in one of the ballrooms. I Seriously doubt that Dragon*Con would M<ake an event with a leading name, Based on that name without having Confirmed with the man. Now he could be very well confused on dates, or something else might have changed his schedule, But Dragon*Con is know for adding people Last minute because they couldn't get confirmation, Rather than adding people who aren't confirmed. On the Browncoats website the list a apperences includes Dragoncon http://browncoats.serenitymovie.com/serenity/index.html?fuseaction=tools.shownews&news_id=124

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Speaking as a tech staffer

domesticat
2005-07-31 09:35 pm UTC (link)

This is me with my dragon*con tech staffer hat on. Bear in mind that I am NOT an official spokesman for dragon*con, and my statements should only be taken as the observations of a tech staffer.

But ...

I've seen an early, preliminary schedule for 'con, and Joss Whedon's name appears all over the place on it. Both tech and security are making contingency plans to deal with the overflow crowds that are expected because of Whedon/Serenity. Basically, if he's not showing up, it's news to both security and tech.

There is always the possibility of a screwup. I cannot discount that. However, my gut tells me that it's unlikely given that we have a schedule that has him showing up in several places, and I'm forwarding the link on to one of the directors to see if I can get a confirm/deny on the rumor.

That's all I can do right now. I don't know that it helps, but it's the best I can do.

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	Re: Ok so it's changed again... dark_blade 2005-08-03 09:26 pm UTC (link)
	.. what's the info say? I'm getting a "exceeded data transfer" error. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	elemess 2005-07-31 11:05 pm UTC (link)
	If it makes you feel better, just a couple days ago they announced Summer Glau will be there. She wasn't on the original list with the others in the cast. (Reply to this)

starlady42
2005-07-31 11:51 pm UTC (link)

From Joss's post on whedonesque.com:

Hi boys and girls. I'm not going to Dragoncon. As far as I know, I was never ASKED to go to Dragoncon. I didn't even know when or where it was. I have nothing against Dragoncon per se (unless actual dragons are there, which would be scary and dangerous) (and "acchio Firebolt" doesn't really work for just anyone) but I have other plans. I don't know about the actors -- I assume the ones listed are actually going and I'll make sure we confirm that. Sorry for the confusification but it is not of my making.

Gotta fly, peeps. But not to Atlanta. -j.

(The Edinburgh thing is true though.)

joss | August 01, 01:34 CET

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	not his style faekitty 2005-08-01 05:25 am UTC (link)
	I know this is already being worked out, i have seen a gazillion posts about it but i have one comment. That doesn't even sound like Joss' writing. He does indeed get quirky with his wording as proven in many scripts and letters to various websites, but the writing here just isn't in his flavor. Not trying to be nit picky, just adding my .02 (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Disclaimer on website in question aviationwolf 2005-08-01 12:07 am UTC (link)
	WHEDONesque.com is not in any way affiliated with Joss Whedon, Mutant Enemy, Fox, or UPN. This is an independent website, providing a non-profit platform for fans. Stop being spooked. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: Disclaimer on website in question starlady42 2005-08-01 12:13 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, it's a fansite, but a fairly reputable one. I don't know if they'd let just anyone posting as "joss" post a comment. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	astralfire 2005-08-01 01:42 am UTC (link)
	As of the last contact on Thursday (7/28/2005) Joss is still planning on attending Dragon Con. Until Universal and Joss tell us otherwise expect him to be there. We will be recontacting Universal and Joss tomorrow. David Gordon Dragon*Con Programming Sr-Director (Reply to this) (Thread)

	idocpro 2005-08-01 03:05 am UTC (link)
	Thanks David, you rock. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	aviationwolf 2005-08-01 12:50 pm UTC (link)
	Hey, David.... AOL ate my account and it wasn't worth jumping through their hoops to get it back. I'll be emailing you from my new one. Tricia (Reply to this) (Parent)

	gladstone 2005-08-01 08:41 pm UTC (link)
	So what's the deal, David Gordon, Programming Sr-Director? Whedon's still posting over here that he's not likely to be at the con. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	idocpro 2005-08-01 03:04 am UTC (link)
	On WHEDONesque.com Joss does post there from time to time, that's for sure. Joss didn't book himself for D*C, someone else handled that. I'm sure Joss is just mixed up on his own plans, I mean the man is busy as heck, I'm sure he gets himself mixed up all the time. (Reply to this)

vvsavagevv
2005-08-01 04:07 pm UTC (link)

Indeed, there seems to be some communication issues btw. Joss-Universal-D*C because Universal is continuing to confirm his appearance, while Joss continues to post no knowledge of it on Whedonesque. Hopefully this will all be cleared up shortly. Quite often in these cases (in my little experience), the studio does have a BIG say so in where people go for promoting new films, so don't give up hope just yet. (Though I also would hate for Joss to have to be too inconvenienced with an appearance if he has other, more important stuff going on that weekend.)

I'll still be having fun either way!! :-D

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	spooksquad_ 2005-08-04 02:58 am UTC (link)
	Any new word since the call yesterday to Universal and Joss? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	darth23 2005-08-04 07:14 pm UTC (link)
	Anyone? Bueller? (Reply to this) (Parent)

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