Bennet the Blue Fox ([info]bennetfox) wrote in [info]damnportlanders,
@ 2007-05-01 14:37:00
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Current mood: aggravated

To the Anti-Smoking Gestapo
I hope you're happy. I hope you're just thrilled with yourself because you banned smoking at Pioneer Courthouse Square. I hope you're happy because you have successfully exterminated most activity and life from the Square. Because of you, no one wants to hang out in Portland's Living Room anymore. The thought that really rubs my fur the wrong way is that you voted for it, and you've never set foot in the Square in your entire life!

I also would be willing to bet that you're the same type of person who drives a gas guzzling environment killing SUV. Come to think of it, I think I am going to pass around a petition banning cars from within a six-block radius of the Square. Cars emit carbon dioxide. SUV's and scoorters emit more carbon dioxide than everything else. Did you stop to think about my health? Did you stop to think that just because I use the sidewalks, bike lanes, and public transportation that I don't matter because you're slowly killing me with your exhaust emissions? Not to mention the rest of the planet? I didn't think so. For that reason, I think there should be a ban placed on all gas-powered automobiles.

I'm not a hippie tree hugger, but banning smoking in theSquare is one of the most dumbest things that could of been done.

I hope you get backed over by your own SUV,
Me.




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[info]thestepbeneath
2007-05-01 09:39 pm UTC (link)
I don't live in Oregon so I couldn't vote, but if I DID, I would have voted to ban it. I don't drive an SUV, I DO step foot in the square, and I don't think I should have to smell your stinky ass cigarettes.

Get over it and smoke across the street.

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[info]bennetfox
2007-05-01 09:42 pm UTC (link)
You don't live in Oregon and you come to the Square all the time? I'd like to see how you accomplish that.

2 cents happily refunded.

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yes - [info]diffuse, 2007-05-02 12:48 am UTC
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[info]littlebluedog
2007-05-01 09:40 pm UTC (link)
I think I am going to pass around a petition banning cars from within a six-block radius of the Square.

I think you should.

Ironically, though, it would be based on exactly the same rationale as the smoking ban you complain about.

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[info]bennetfox
2007-05-01 09:42 pm UTC (link)
Life isn't without a sense of irony, is it?

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(no subject) - [info]supresmooth, 2007-05-01 11:57 pm UTC
OT
[info]luvsammy
2007-05-01 09:41 pm UTC (link)
"most dumbest"

ohhh, the irony.


**backs away from the rising debate tide**

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Re: OT
[info]maxticket
2007-05-01 09:49 pm UTC (link)
". . . could of been done." Same sentence. I'm not throwing stones at this one though. Just observing.

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Re: OT - [info]littlebluedog, 2007-05-01 09:50 pm UTC
Re: OT - [info]luvsammy, 2007-05-01 09:53 pm UTC
Re: OT - [info]littlebluedog, 2007-05-01 09:55 pm UTC
Re: OT - [info]luvsammy, 2007-05-01 09:56 pm UTC
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Re: OT - [info]luvsammy, 2007-05-01 10:04 pm UTC
Re: OT - [info]a_muffin_story, 2007-05-01 10:36 pm UTC
Re: OT - [info]peacheasy, 2007-05-02 02:33 am UTC
Re: OT - [info]moofie74, 2007-05-02 03:35 am UTC
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Re: OT - [info]swingangel, 2007-05-01 10:02 pm UTC
Re: OT - [info]a_muffin_story, 2007-05-01 10:54 pm UTC

[info]maxticket
2007-05-01 09:50 pm UTC (link)
Why not organize a smoke-in?

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[info]gelasia
2007-05-01 09:54 pm UTC (link)
or a smoke-out? :) even better.

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(no subject) - [info]maxticket, 2007-05-01 10:18 pm UTC
Hahahaha!
[info]dangrmous
2007-05-01 09:54 pm UTC (link)
You get the bizarre-rant-of-the-day award!

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Re: Hahahaha!
[info]bennetfox
2007-05-02 12:44 am UTC (link)
Yay! Thank you! I enjoy a lot of the comments I get!

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[info]spanambula
2007-05-01 09:56 pm UTC (link)
While I don't share the vituperative feelings of [info]bennetfox, I have to agree. It's out-frigging-doors; we're not trapped in a closet with these people.

The amount of coffee consumed per day probably has more of a negative health impact than small amounts of second-hand smoke.

If it matters, I don't have an SUV and I'm an ex-smoker.

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[info]vwsandcoffee
2007-05-01 09:56 pm UTC (link)
werd.
I'll bum you a smoke anytime.

Can we try and ban patchouli for its assaults on my olfactory senses?

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[info]_fool
2007-05-01 09:59 pm UTC (link)
what's the exact text of the law? maybe patchouli-incense-burning was banned too?

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[info]drjeff
2007-05-01 09:59 pm UTC (link)
I just wanted to chime in with the recollection of the days (circa mid-70s)when Portland's finest had a stated "non-enforcement policy" regarding cannabis. The square did not exist in its present form, but you could sit in the park blocks and smoke a joint peacefully. The world was a better place then, and there were no SUVs.

And lemonade ran in the streets! And Mt. Hood was a big rock candy mountain!

Gimme my Geritol. It's nap time.

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[info]brucix
2007-05-01 10:03 pm UTC (link)
If that was lemonade, well, it ain't no more! Trust me.

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(no subject) - [info]mariotta, 2007-05-02 12:43 am UTC
True dat - [info]jef182, 2007-05-02 01:03 am UTC
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[info]supresmooth
2007-05-01 10:00 pm UTC (link)
iawtp.

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[info]glowing_fish
2007-05-01 11:56 pm UTC (link)
What does this IAWTP mean?

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(no subject) - [info]supresmooth, 2007-05-01 11:59 pm UTC
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[info]swingangel
2007-05-01 10:14 pm UTC (link)
You honestly smoke around other people? No, really?? You do?? Because for the 8 years that I was a smoker, I refused to do it in crowded places. That means Pioneer Square, MAX stations, or even when walking down the street in downtown.

My personal choice to do it should not affect others, especially when I KNOW the damage i'm causing. Now, I quit, but my views haven't changed. Smoke if you want. Whatever. But stop whining about the fact that you can't smoke in the middle of a group of people you don't know and inflict harmful toxins on them.

Personally, I'd like to see it banned from places where I eat as well, so here's hoping that one comes up for voting soon.

We're all entitled to our opinions, and that means you can go around yelling from the top of your lungs that you hate it, but the majority doesn't agree.

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[info]lokidecat
2007-05-01 10:44 pm UTC (link)
Lots of places you can eat that do not allow smoking. Lots. A majority. In a non-snarky, serious tone I must ask: What makes you so special so that every where YOU go should be exactly the way you want it?

I'm serious. You have a myriad of choices of restaurants to go to right now that are 100% smoke-free. But if there is one place that isn't, and you like it, you think they shouldn't be JUST because you want to go there?

That's Western ignorance. That's selfish. That is why the world hates us.

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[info]fozz47
2007-05-01 10:24 pm UTC (link)
I'm not a smoker. But I'm so sick of public employees wasting time on stupid shit like this. And yes, it's freakin' outdoors.

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[info]lokidecat
2007-05-01 10:32 pm UTC (link)
What I love the most is people wanting tobacco taxes to pay for Healthcare for children by passing bills that make it so. And all the other state services that tax funds.

I would love if I had it in my power to make everyone stop smoking simultaneously for just a week or two and watch the millions in city funds dry up so fast.

Everyone hates "the smell" and think their health is SO FUCKING important, but the thing they don't realize is what millions of dollars a day does for Oregon.

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[info]sohc
2007-05-01 11:25 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, let's thank all those smokers for subsidizing our health-care. It's not like their habit is going to cause any problems for them later; and necessitate removing a lung on the state's dime.

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[info]a_muffin_story
2007-05-01 10:43 pm UTC (link)
Just curious, but have you found smoking to have any sort of negative affect on your health? I noticed you said that you use the sidewalk, bike lanes and public transportation, so I'm assuming that you don't drive, and you're a bike rider. I know a lot of smokers have that nagging cough and a hard time catching their breath. Do you have those problems?

I'm just wondering, it has nothing to do with your little post here. I personally am not a smoker, but I grew up picking up my dad's cigarette butts in the yard for a penny a piece, and then saw him go through a heart attack, heart failure and though he's recently done a damn good job of getting back to being healthy, he had quite a bit of struggle that the doctors all blamed on his smoking.

So yeah, I'm just curious.

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[info]everanddespair
2007-05-02 12:01 am UTC (link)
I just went downtown on sunday and walked about 3.5 miles. I smoke and I have asthma. I was slightly short of breath, but I can blame that on my weight and the fact that I don't regularly exercise. But I was fine. I didn't have an asthma attack, I didn't cough once, and I wasn't wheezing. I just think it's different for every person. That's why some smokers can smoke for 20+ years and not experience any health problems and others smoke for 1 year and get lung cancer. Everything affects different people in different ways.

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[info]yoopie
2007-05-01 10:46 pm UTC (link)
I smoke. I walk around Portland.
I have been to Pioneer square and will go again..perhaps this weekend.
I do not agree with your post at all.
I see plenty of folks at the sqaure and if I just REALLY have to have a smoke, it's not a big deal for me to...step away from the square.
I am not an impolite smoker either and do my best to NOT smoke around a ton of people or at least step away a couple hundred feet and go about my business.

I don't think a smoking ban killed Pioneer square, although it may have dettered some individuals from going there I think due to the nature of the square that it being smoke free is cool...it is like a family type area and I think smoking around kids is bad. I do have nieces and nephews and they do know that I smoke, but I don't let them around me when I do.

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[info]everanddespair
2007-05-02 12:07 am UTC (link)
See, I disagree. While the ban didn't "kill" the square, when I was there this weekend, it was pretty empty compared to what it used to be before the ban. I too try to be polite. But when I used to hang out at the square and smoke when I was in high school, I rarely saw families much less children there. Most of the people that hung out at the square were hippies, dealers, and high schoolers. Which I guess could be considered children. But when I think children I think under 13. The ban sucks, it's inconvenient, and I don't like it. But I'm not going to whine about it. I don't think smoking should be banned outdoors but yeah, I can smoke across the street. The only thing I have a big problem with is as explained in a previous comment, people being assholes about my smoking when I am trying to be polite to them and respect that they do not smoke. Although, once someone thanked me. That made me feel good.

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(no subject) - [info]yoopie, 2007-05-02 12:19 am UTC
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[info]jfboyd
2007-05-01 11:01 pm UTC (link)
Seriously, how selfish do you have to be that you don't have a problem endangering the health of others with your smoking. You have a home, right? Go smoke at home. Leave the rest of us out of it.

Your feeble attempt to put this on cars is a logical fallacy--a false dichotomy--suggesting that we have to choose between smokers and car pollution. Why can't we get rid of both your selfish ass AND the SUV drivers?

And don't call this an issue of personal freedom being curtailed--personal freedom ends when it harms other people. So unless you can keep all that smoke in your own lungs, then STFU.

Personally, I can't wait till the smoking ban is all over Portland. I've lived in cities with smoking bans, and they are a hell of a lot more pleasant than ones without them.

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[info]melintur
2007-05-01 11:07 pm UTC (link)
The irony of your choice of icon is delicious

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randomly - [info]mariotta, 2007-05-02 12:47 am UTC
Re: randomly - [info]jfboyd, 2007-05-02 01:56 am UTC
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[info]dappleshark
2007-05-01 11:38 pm UTC (link)
I fully endorse the ban. I use the Square and other public spaces such as bus stops and parks. I do not drive an SUV or anything else for that matter. I use Trimet, my bike or my own Chevrolegs.

I want them to invent some kind of rebreather so only you inhale your own smoke. I don't care if you want to kill yourself in that manner (hell I'm all for population control!), but *I* don't need to be breathing it and neither do others. Until then though, I will fully endorse any and all smoking bans.

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[info]remix79
2007-05-02 01:07 am UTC (link)
rebreather...awesome...:)

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[info]bennomatic
2007-05-01 11:41 pm UTC (link)
Smoking schmoking. I wish they could pass a law so that people didn't fart in the square. That's what really ticks me off.

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[info]broknashleydoll
2007-05-02 03:27 am UTC (link)
maybe something about having to have bathed in the last few days.

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[info]thiebes
2007-05-01 11:55 pm UTC (link)
I totally agree it is a dumb law but what does it have to do with people who drive SUVs? Maybe it was a bunch of pedestrians that banned it?

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what does it have to do with people who drive SUVs
[info]jef182
2007-05-02 12:46 am UTC (link)
It's called a circumstantual Argumentum ad Hominem fallacy, and is the last resort of a weak intellect and indefensible argument; or in other words- the first club out of the bag on DP.

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[info]captain_ian
2007-05-02 12:38 am UTC (link)
this is the problem with majority rules democracy, slightly less than half of the people dont get what they want most of the time. what a shitty way to run a country. i mean, it is better than most people dont get what they want, but only the tiniest bit better really.

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[info]jef182
2007-05-02 12:54 am UTC (link)
Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.

George Bernard Shaw

Happy Socialist er... I mean "May" day ;)

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[info]felix_
2007-05-02 12:41 am UTC (link)
Maybe someone should call whine one one so we can get you a wambulance.

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[info]bennetfox
2007-05-02 01:10 am UTC (link)
Yes, I want some whine with my cheese.

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[info]firelie
2007-05-02 12:45 am UTC (link)
Sweet! No more smoking there? Now I can finally hang out there without my allergies being affected by people billowing cigarette smoke all around me. It gets annoying to have to get up a move every time some jackass with a cancer stick decides to sit 2 feet away upwind and light up.

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[info]_dilate_
2007-05-02 03:00 am UTC (link)
I'm with you, I hadn't heard about this and I'm excited :0

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(no subject) - [info]per_sis_tence, 2007-05-02 05:44 am UTC

[info]yourdannybear
2007-05-02 12:51 am UTC (link)
stop smoking.

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[info]bennetfox
2007-05-02 01:10 am UTC (link)
I'm working on it. I have to get some other ducks in a row before I can do that.

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[info]rahnia
2007-05-02 01:42 am UTC (link)
You know in Montreal you can smoke everywhere. At least you could when I was there; I was at a pizza joint and this guy at the table next to me lit up. It was weird.

That said, you can smoke everywhere in Europe too, at least until recently. They don't seem to have as many smoking-related problems (although I don't have any stats to back this up) over there. And second-hand smoke is not as damaging as people like to say it is.

I'm not a smoker per se, although sometimes I do socially or when I'm drinking (a bar in which I cannot smoke will not have my business), and this new ban pisses me off. Jesus. And people with allergies...the plants aren't going to stop producing pollen, people aren't going to stop walking their dogs, and smokers are never going to stop smoking. You might still have to walk past somebody smoking on their very own property. The world isn't safe. I want to gag when I smell somebody wearing way too much perfume, or I get a mouthful of exhaust in the face, but I'm not going to suggest banning it. Smoking is a personal choice and saying "stop smoking" or "your smoking is infringing on my rights" seems silly to me. Next there will be laws on how recently you've showered before you go out in public, or offensive hairstyles.

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[info]jfboyd
2007-05-02 02:05 am UTC (link)
Wow you're ignorant. You know who else you're defending? Your defending every business that wants the right to pollute your air and your water, to put damaging chemicals in your food and all around you, to the point of no recourse from the government.

People can have as much right to do what they want in this country. As long as it doesn't injure others. You can think that secondhand smoking isn't dangerous all you like, but the facts prove otherwise. You're like one of those nuts who doesn't believe in global warming despite all evidence to the contrary.

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(no subject) - [info]bennetfox, 2007-05-02 06:29 pm UTC
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[info]xplo_eristotle
2007-05-02 02:05 am UTC (link)
I used to believe that the aim of politics was to act in the best interests of the people, and to preserve the cause of fairness, justice, and liberty, either as their honest representative, or as an informed voter with a conscience.

Don't laugh. We were all young once. :(

I for one am glad that the ban passed, because I loathe cigarette smoke, and I can only hope that more legislation that upholds my personal wants and values is enacted swiftly. I couldn't care less whether or not you approve of the limits and requirements thereby imposed upon you. :)

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[info]lokidecat
2007-05-02 10:02 am UTC (link)
I can only hope that more legislation that upholds my personal wants and values is enacted swiftly

I really hope this was sarcasm. If it's your true sentiment, you deserved to be beaten with a wiffle bat.

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[info]lightofthevalar
2007-05-02 02:46 am UTC (link)
Damn, now all my friends with asthma will actually be able to hang out at Pioneer Square. Look what you've done, Oregon!!! >=/

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[info]soothsavage
2007-05-02 05:54 am UTC (link)
My asthma is completely unaffected by smoking, except if you hot boxed it or something.

What a fun post, eh?

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(no subject) - [info]lokidecat, 2007-05-02 10:03 am UTC
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