GoldLeafGoddess ([info]goldleafgoddess) wrote in [info]damnportlanders,
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ARTISTS: Oppose S2913 the Shawn Bentley Orphan Works Act of 2008
PLEASE if you care about creative rights for yourself, or anyone else, write in to oppose this bill.




ARTISTS: Oppose S2913 the Shawn Bentley Orphan Works Act of 2008
The Illustrators' Partnership of America has posted letters you can send to your representatives, urging them to vote against the act:
http://capwiz.com/illustratorspartnership/home/

Please click here to write and send a letter to your Senators and Congressmen:
Orphaned Works Act Letter


Dear Senator Coleman,

As a constituent, an artist, small business (henlestudio.com), and copyright holder, I am asking you to oppose this bill. I have already experienced my artwork being "used" (stolen) by eBay store owners, and Chinese rip-off companies, and do not have means to fight them for what is rightfully mine, as the large companies (like Disney) do.

I'm writing to ask that you oppose S. 2913, the Shawn Bentley Orphan Works Act of 2008. Despite the title of this bill, its effects will not be limited to those works that are true "orphans". Instead, it will affect any citizen's creative work, from professional works of art to Sunday paintings to vacation photos. The issue at stake is not small. This bill is in fact a radical reversal of copyright law and the logic of ownership of personal property.

Instead of providing solutions to appropriately deal with copyrighted work whose creators are hard to identify or locate, the Orphan Works Bill, will instead legalize the commercial or non-commercial infringement of any work of art, past, present, and future, regardless of age, country of origin, published or unpublished, whenever a copyright owner cannot be identified or located, and will disproportionately cause harm to visual artists and those who are rights holders of visual works.

Current copyright law protects everything you create from the moment you create it. But under this amendment, nothing you create will be protected from potential infringement, even if you undertake active steps to assert and maintain ownership - a daunting task for creators of visual works.

The Copyright Office studied the specific subject of "orphan works" - copyrighted works whose owners may be impossible to identify or locate. Yet this bill would drastically affect commercial markets, a subject the Copyright Office never studied.

I am alive, working and managing my copyrights. I can be found. My clients find me all the time. If 100 people can find me, and one person can't, why should that one person be allowed a free ride to use my work? Why should I have to go to court to contest an infringer's diligence or prove the value of my own work?

The consequences of this radical change to Copyright Law have never been subjected to a market impact survey. As such, there is no way to determine the harmful effects it will have on my markets, contracts and licenses, or on any of the collateral businesses that serve rights holders like me and are dependent on us - or on average citizens who will have to join us in eternal vigilance from the unwanted use of their personal property. Because there has been no study of the potential ramifications of this legislation, my business and thousands of other small businesses across this country are likely to be destroyed if S.2913 is passed.

This bill was planned behind closed doors, introduced on short notice and fast-tracked for imminent passage. In order for the concerns of creators to be heard, I believe any bill that constitutes such a profound change to the ownership of private property should be subjected to an open, informed, and transparent public debate.

Thank you for your consideration of this critical issue.

The National Press Photographers' Assocation has an article and links about it here: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/05/orphan02.html

Intellectual Property Watch writes:

In an issue that may be rising internationally, legislation pending in the United States Senate and House to free up use of “orphan works” whose copyright owners cannot be found has won strong support from the recording, webcasting and library sectors but faces challenges from visual artists and the textile industry.
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Libraries like the fact that the bills provide a safe harbour from statutory damages for librarians and archivists if a reasonable search is conducted, Sheketoff said. In addition, she said, the legislation does not affect fair use. The measures are the “first pro-user change to the Copyright Law in almost two decades,” Curtis wrote.
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Illustrators, photographers and other visual artists, however, are mobilising to challenge the proposal.

“Our chief objective to these bills is that they’ve been written so broadly their effect can’t be limited to true orphaned work,” Illustrators’ Partnership of America (IPA) founder Brad Holland told Intellectual Property Watch. Forcing anyone who creates a visual work, whether professional or personal, published or unpublished, to register it with yet-to-be-created commercial registries will cause users to rely increasingly on the companies to perform a diligent search, he said. Unregistered works could then be infringed as orphans, he said.

The proposals will disproportionately affect visual artists because paintings, drawings and photographs are often published without contact information, credit lines can be easily removed by others, and pictures can be separated from the publications in which they appear, Holland said. And because visual artists often produce many more works than the most prolific author or songwriter, it will cost them more time and money to register and maintain tens of thousands of registrations," he said.
 
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[info]winter_in_asia
2008-05-20 09:31 pm UTC (link)
I've already contacted both senators and my rep. Not that David Wu is likely to actually do anything about it. I swear that man is the most two-faced politico I've ever met.

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[info]palebythesea
2008-05-20 11:05 pm UTC (link)
Seriously. I usually don't love the WW and Oregonian but they were both spot on with their Will Hobbs rec. I really don't feel like Wu has done jack-anything for me as a constituent.

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[info]littlebluedog
2008-05-20 09:45 pm UTC (link)
You might want to, you know, link the actual text of the bill.

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[info]goldleafgoddess
2008-05-21 04:14 am UTC (link)
If you were to, you know, click the first link, a link to the actual text of the bill is included.


smart ass.

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[info]littlebluedog
2008-05-21 05:54 am UTC (link)
Yup -- I did, and all of the others in your post, and couldn't find it ... thus, my comment. And again after receiving your response, still nothing. It's possible I missed something.

Sorry, the tone of my comment was a knee-jerk reaction to this kind of post, primarily because the summaries of the legislation are usually pretty biased, and it's better to have the actual text to review. It looks a little suspect when the post itself that calls for action against something doesn't actually give a factual account of what the something is, or indeed include any links to it.

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Re: but Not good enough.
[info]goldleafgoddess
2008-05-21 08:57 am UTC (link)
I have added the link and the url above, don't know why it was so hard to find. I hope people are done snarking on me now, and we can all look at the issue at hand. Maybe even talk about it like it matters.

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Re: but Not good enough.
[info]littlebluedog
2008-05-21 02:33 pm UTC (link)
Thanks. In an effort to start a discussion about the bill, from a review of the text, I don't see that it forces copyright owners to register their works, and it seems that a user of an orphaned work has to jump through a number of hoops to avail himself of the limited exceptions in the statute. Also, I note from your letter that "Chinese rip-off companies" are a concern -- but US copyright law, as it exists now or as it would be amended by this bill, has no effect outside the US.

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Re: but Not good enough.
[info]goldleafgoddess
2008-05-21 04:12 pm UTC (link)
I am mainly concerned with visual arts here. It is unrealistic to believe that most artists can register their 100's of paintings and drawings, as well as afford any "fees and subscription costs" that private companies may charge to register works in the language of the bill. This opens the door for registrar companies to use the new laws to justify charging bucks just so that we have some protection for our already created works- and it places the responsibility on the artist to preemptively pay to protect their works from possible infringements. The bill does not protect artists from the way it will be capitalized on. But hey- look where we live, right?

Artists should NOT have to PAY to defend and protect their creations, (that are now protected simply when created) nor to wrestle them from an infringer. Even if they do succeed, the cost to the infringer is MINIMAL.

You are right that it doesn't force artists to register works- but without registering them, the bill makes it clear that there are extremely minimal costs an artist can recover. It heavily favors registered (formal copyrighted) works over those merely created by an artist.

This bill needs more legal distance between living current artists work, and those deemed "Orphaned" by length of time, death of creator etc. I have no problem with older orphaned works being added to the public domain, so that people can use or exploit them the way they want to. (And they will)

I want (Professional) artists to have more choices and support from our society in terms we can live with and work with. This bill just needs to address these issues of concern better before it is made into law. That's all I is sayin'.

You are right about chinese rip-off's....lol...that is just something that is out of anyone's control.

Of course there will be polarized views in this...but I am not totally against the bill, it just needs work. I am definitely open to learning more- but I will not listen to anyone who insults and demeans my views rather than discussing it like adults.
(this is the only community that has been snarky to me)

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Re: but Not good enough.
[info]littlebluedog
2008-05-21 04:34 pm UTC (link)
As I mentioned, the bill doesn't require any artists to register their works, either with the Copyright Office or with any service. The relevant provision (see 514(b)(2)(a)(iii)) says that the search conducted by someone who wants to use an orphan work may include databases operated by such services.

You are right that it doesn't force artists to register works- but without registering them, the bill makes it clear that there are extremely minimal costs an artist can recover.

I don't see this at all. If you're talking about registering a work with the Copyright Office, this is a procedure that must be done in order to recover damages from an infringer. This is current law, and nothing in the bill changes that. If you're talking about registering a work with a subscription-based service, as mentioned above, the bill puts no obligation for an artist to do this in order to recover damages, and also doesn't say anything about the amount of damages being limited unless an artist does this.

I have no problem with older orphaned works being added to the public domain, so that people can use or exploit them the way they want to.

To me, this is exactly what the bill does. If, as an artist, I want to incorporate a found image into my work, it makes sense that I should respect the rights that anyone has in that image. This bill requires me to jump through several hoops in order to do that legally, and also provides a limited safe harbor if I've done so. It also protects the rights of artists who DO have rights in orphaned works, by providing a mechanism by which a proper royalty may be obtained.

If, as an artist, I DON'T jump through these hoops, I have no protection, and the holder of the rights in the image I use can sue the pants off me, as they can under current (c) law.

Certainly there are problems with the language, as with any law that seeks to strike a balance between potentially opposing interests. However, I think the articles you linked above misconstrue some of the provisions of the bill and sensationalize what it does, without looking at how it seeks to accomplish its goal.

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Re: but Not good enough.
[info]goldleafgoddess
2008-05-21 04:44 pm UTC (link)
I linked to them because they get people talking and reading. They do point out the shortcomings of the bill- which is the whole point. If the bill were written addressing all concerns aptly, there would be no need to point out any shortcomings.
Oh- & thanks for being articulate and civil- that's a welcome change from the last few emails.

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Re: but Not good enough.
[info]littlebluedog
2008-05-21 04:57 pm UTC (link)
They do point out the shortcomings of the bill ...

I think it's more accurate to say that they misconstrue and sensationalize key provisions of it. This is kind of why I suggested above that the actual text of the bill be included.

I mean, I suppose linking the articles does prompt people to read, but once people DO read, it becomes clear that the articles have it fundamentally wrong to begin with, yanno?

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Re: but Not good enough.
[info]goldleafgoddess
2008-05-21 05:52 pm UTC (link)
I just don't happen to agree with your assessment that they are "fundamentally wrong". But- it looks like that's all you've been wanting to say about it all along anyway.

Do you have any/much experience working with copyrighted artworks personally?

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Re: but Not good enough.
[info]littlebluedog
2008-05-21 05:58 pm UTC (link)
But- it looks like that's all you've been wanting to say about it all along anyway.

Well, no, I haven't; you're assuming prejudice there. What I wanted to do is compare what the bill says with what the articles SAY it says, then I concluded that the articles are incorrect in several places.

Do you have any/much experience working with copyrighted artworks personally?

Yes, I'm an IP attorney. I focus mainly on patents and trademarks, but I do a fair bit of copyright work, studied it in law school, and wrote a research paper on fair use.

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Re: but Not good enough.
[info]goldleafgoddess
2008-05-21 06:28 pm UTC (link)
So, why don't you try understanding the real concerns of the real artists in this issue? You can pick apart the articles all day long, they are worded to express what the bill can potentially do, not worded to repeat the bill itself. I don't have a problem with fair use. I have a problem with the unfinished and all-encompassing nature of this bill. How will it leave artwork that is unregistered by its creators? How much will these not-yet created registrar companies charge artists to make their work "known" ??? In my opinion, any additional fees are unfair to place on creators, just to pro actively fend off infringer's. Court costs to correct mistakes also fall as the burden on artists, and are not necessarily compensated.

I am surprised if you think this bill is ready to go.


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Re: but Not good enough.
[info]littlebluedog
2008-05-21 06:45 pm UTC (link)
I'm not sure what makes you think I'm not trying, considering that I'm engaging in this conversation in an effort to understand your concerns with the bill.

I'm also not sure that you're reading my replies above, or else I'm not clearly getting my point across. I'll try again: there is no requirement in the bill to register works, nor does it reduce monetary damages that an artist can recover from infringement of a non-registered work. This bill imposes no additional fees on artists.

Some of the confusion might come from the word "register." Registering a work with the Copyright Office refers to an administrative proceeding that you can do to make sure there's a federal record that you created the work on some date. If you don't register a work with the copyright office, you can't sue for monetary damages. That's the law, and that's not changed at all by this bill.

The bill also talks about listing your work with a subscription-based service that potential users of an orphan work can use when they search for the creator of the work. You might be referring to this process as "registering," but if so, the bill does not require an artist to do this. It might be to your advantage to do so, for example to make it easier for a potential user of your work to track you down, but if you choose not to, it doesn't mean the potential user can go ahead and use the work. It also doesn't mean your monetary damages are reduced if you choose not to list your work.

And I didn't say that I think the bill is ready to go. I said it has problems.

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[info]goldleafgoddess
2008-05-21 07:41 pm UTC (link)
Ok. I really did read your comments. And I have been thinking about what you've said. I do understand that there is no requirement to register works. Some of my work is registered, only because my publisher could afford to pay for it. The rest is unregistered, because I can't afford the $35 fee each time. Perhaps now I may be able to do a whole collection, but that is also unclear.The way the bill is worded, it sounded to me like artists would *need* to register if only to avoid their work becoming lost in the swamp of orphaned and un-titled or misplaced works....esp. on the internet. It is so easy for artwork to be "lifted" online. It is also easy for photos of work to be separated from their info. How easy will it be to find artists when there is no info? Isn't this what being orphaned means? Unable to find the author/artist?

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Re: but Not good enough.
[info]littlebluedog
2008-05-21 08:01 pm UTC (link)
Yes, unable to find the creator or owner of the copyright after a diligent search.

I don't know if you noticed this part of the bill, but it also requires a potential user of an orphan work (at least one who wants to get some protection under the bill) to also include a notice that any new work that incorporates the orphan work does in fact incorporate an orphan work. This is mentioned in 514(b)(1)(a)(iii).

For example, say I find a painting of yours online somewhere, but it carries no identifying information and I can't find any after searching. I'm not a nitwit, so I assume that someone owns the rights to it, but I want to use it while still trying to protect myself if someone comes forward and shows that it's theirs. If I incorporate your painting into a new work that I create, like an advertisement or something (which must itself include a substantial amount of my own creative effort, in order to satisfy the requirements of the bill), I have to distribute along with my new work a notice that it incorporates an orphan work.

This is really interesting to me, because I think that the notice requirement would function as a real deterrent to ad agencies and corps that want to use orphan works.

Although the exact form of this kind of notice isn't specifically detailed in the bill, my guess is that companies who want to avoid getting sued would probably just avoid using works that carry such "orphan" notices (think about it: you're an ad exec faced with choosing between two ads, one that incorporates an orphan work and one that does not; simply from a litigation-avoidance perspective, you'll probably choose the latter to use). If companies elect to take the orphan notice off, or exclude it, they can no longer get any protection under the bill and are treated just like any other infringer.

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Re: but Not good enough.
[info]goldleafgoddess
2008-05-22 04:59 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for your comments.

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[info]girlracer
2008-05-20 09:49 pm UTC (link)
I thought it was a good thing because a lot of important films are rapidly deteriorating?

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[info]eli_makes
2008-05-21 04:54 am UTC (link)
I posted about this here like a month ago, only to receive a pile of snark (no surprise, I know where I am).

Where's the snark for this post?

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[info]madscience
2008-05-22 08:40 pm UTC (link)
Stop deleting my comments, crybaby.

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[info]goldleafgoddess
2008-05-23 04:48 am UTC (link)
Hahahahaha! What are you- like, 3rd grade? What a whiner!

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[info]madscience
2008-05-23 05:04 am UTC (link)
Calling you a crybaby has been my first and only personal attack. You still have not addressed a single point I made, either here or in my own post. Your post is still hype and misinformation, and I don't think you understand this issue at all.

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[info]derumi
2008-05-23 05:43 am UTC (link)
*snerk* Wow, you really are a piece of work. All about expressing yourself as an artist, perhaps, and making sure to censor others where you can.

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[info]bellybalt
2008-05-22 09:04 pm UTC (link)
Please stop deleting comments, as it is against the community rules. This is your second warning, including the private message already sent to you. Thanks!

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