twilite ([info]twilite_embrace) wrote in [info]damnportlanders,
@ 2008-02-01 20:37:00
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Nothin on the news yet...
A MAX hit a bus tonight on yamhill and 3rd. I was gettin on the red line up by PGE park and the conductor announced that everyone needed to get off the max because all the max lines were shut down because of a bad accident downtown that caused one to be derailed. As far as I can tell from what the people were saying down there and from the way the scene looked, the bus seemed to have run a red light, right in front of the max. Here's a couple pics of it. Crazy! Makes me kinda wonder about taking public transportation. :-P






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[info]seduce_kar
2008-02-02 04:47 am UTC (link)
oh shit. I would hate to be the person in that seat behind the back door ;x

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[info]twilite_embrace
2008-02-02 04:50 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I keep waiting for something to get posted on KATU or something, but nothing yet. They were just setting up the cameras when I was wandering through. Very scary to think that bus/MAX drivers can make mistakes that result in this.


On a side note, if any DP'rs were there, and know more, please post, or comment or whatever! :-P

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[info]emu1863
2008-02-02 05:21 am UTC (link)
It's not much, but this brief says that (thankfully) only one person was injured, and that those injuries were minor:

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=120192754541187600

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[info]derumi
2008-02-02 06:02 am UTC (link)
That's good news!

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[info]lunadragonfly
2008-02-02 06:04 am UTC (link)
Yeah, that's the up side of buses being huge, for sure. If that had been a car there'd probably be someone in critical condition.

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[info]luminais
2008-02-02 09:04 pm UTC (link)
gooooood! man. that's scary.

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[info]palebythesea
2008-02-02 05:20 am UTC (link)
Yeah, damn. If they weren't injured, they probably soiled themselves (seriously, who wouldn't?)

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[info]dottedcircles
2008-02-02 07:45 am UTC (link)
Thats my favorite seat! I'm glad it wasn't me!

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[info]aardammit
2008-02-02 04:49 am UTC (link)
Incoming rate increase...

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[info]kaleidoscopeeye
2008-02-02 07:04 am UTC (link)
*snort*

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[info]dave256
2008-02-02 08:47 am UTC (link)
No, this happened in Fareless Square. Yet another reason to get rid of it!

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[info]rat_bastird
2008-02-02 05:06 am UTC (link)
oops

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[info]derumi
2008-02-02 05:13 am UTC (link)
I'm surprised that there aren't more bus accidents; they run red lights too often.

And if it's the Max operator's fault, he or she gets off scot-free.

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[info]twilite_embrace
2008-02-02 05:33 am UTC (link)
Holy crap! I just read that article, and that is completely stupid! So if you're a MAX operator, you could like, in theory, run over a bunch of pedestrians or bikes or pull out in front of traffic and kill people and not get in trouble. Something is seriously wrong here. And really needs to be reevaluated.

With a quickness.

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[info]celaeno
2008-02-02 05:38 am UTC (link)
Uh, no?

"By Oregon law MAX trains are exempt from the vehicle code, which means there will be no traffic citation issued to the MAX train operator." - not receiving a vehicle traffic citation is hardly the same thing as getting off scot-free.

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[info]derumi
2008-02-02 05:56 am UTC (link)
I've not heard of the fellow being fined, fired, or otherwise punished. Was there follow-up on the news?

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[info]celaeno
2008-02-02 06:10 am UTC (link)
There probably was, but that story is 3 years old so I imagine it'd be in archives.

All that story that you linked to says that there were no criminal charges and MAX isn't treated as a vehicle. Which is reasonable, as there aren't any cars that are as big or heavy as a train and nothing else runs on fixed rails, so they shouldn't be classified under the vehicle code. I'm not sure why people would jump to the conclusion that this means MAX drivers can plow people down with no repercussions.

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[info]derumi
2008-02-02 06:15 am UTC (link)
I hope you are correct.

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[info]celaeno
2008-02-02 06:19 am UTC (link)
I worked for TriMet this past summer, I saw that particular train in question (still being refurbished) - I hadn't heard of the incident before then, but I do know that I'm right about that outcome :)

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[info]lunadragonfly
2008-02-02 05:45 am UTC (link)
Ouch. What time did this happen?

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[info]alana_ash
2008-02-02 06:01 am UTC (link)
I was on the 15 headed downtown at about 7:30ish, and there were people getting on the bus on 2nd saying they'd just been kicked off the max.

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[info]vampireborg
2008-02-02 05:46 am UTC (link)
I got the email about it from TriMet, was wondering what happen.

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[info]alana_ash
2008-02-02 06:01 am UTC (link)
I was on the 15 headed downtown at about 7:30ish, and there were people getting on the bus on 2nd saying they'd just been kicked off the max.

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[info]adamisahippy
2008-02-02 07:40 am UTC (link)
Whoa! Trimet should sue for damages.

shit.

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[info]elric_dewisant
2008-02-02 07:55 am UTC (link)
Now that would be an interesting magickal trick. MAX and Tri-Met are one in the same.

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[info]giantantattack
2008-02-02 08:54 am UTC (link)
This just makes me more eager to see what happens after the green line starts running and busses and MAX trains are weaving in and out of each other's lanes all day long...

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misterpessimist
2008-02-02 09:12 am UTC (link)
nooooo shit.

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[info]luminais
2008-02-02 09:08 pm UTC (link)
yup.

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misterpessimist
2008-02-02 09:09 am UTC (link)
YOWZA.

that fucking blows, man. not cool.

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[info]loonylupinlover
2008-02-02 09:30 am UTC (link)
I was shopping in the Nordstrom Rack at 3rd and Yamhill when it happened. I came out of the store and lights flashing everywhere! I had my camera on me. Here's some more pictures:

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Down-for-the-count MAX with its doors all wide open.

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This one's blurry, but you can see parts of the MAX dangling onto the ground, and to the right you can see the tracks it's jumped.

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Smashed bus.

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[info]madscience
2008-02-02 11:10 am UTC (link)
Yikes! The scary thing about MAX being derailed like that is that it's electric, and if the commutator thingy were still touching the wires but the wheels weren't grounded to the tracks... I'm sure that's one of the reasons they don't let people off right away when MAX has a problem.

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[info]rat_bastird
2008-02-02 02:00 pm UTC (link)
Someone should post pictures of all the people walking to the rose garden... in a new thread where I'll see it.

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[info]rashyn76
2008-02-02 04:44 pm UTC (link)
Part of the herd.

Ah, so that is what happened. I wondered when. I was one of a heard of folks shuttles bussed from the blue line from 82nd ave to rose garden, the bussed around 3rd and yamhill until we got to PGE park.

Still to run a red when you know max tracks are right ahead, that does bother me a bit. hmmm...well trimet seems to running "on schedule" today thus far.

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[info]crunchyredhead
2008-02-02 07:25 pm UTC (link)
makes you wonder about riding public transit huh? hate to break it to you but cars get in accidents, too. even trucks and bicycles sometimes!

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[info]twilite_embrace
2008-02-02 09:13 pm UTC (link)
LOL yes, this is one of the many reasons I got rid of my car. :-D I walk my ass everywhere. Thank god for living downtown!

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[info]pandaexpress
2008-02-02 07:32 pm UTC (link)
the tri-met saying

dont try to beat the max

the max takes 3 blocks to stop

finally got challenged.

ironically, but tri-met.

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[info]luminais
2008-02-02 09:10 pm UTC (link)
i woulda shat my pants.

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[info]lovedayisland
2008-02-03 07:50 am UTC (link)
the blind leading the stupid. nice one tri met.

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