Michelle ([info]muukau) wrote in [info]customers_suck,
@ 2005-10-06 20:47:00
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Buh!
Didn't happen to me, but my co-worker. Although I did talk to the same lady not two days before, and she was just as difficult then.

The participants:
D: Co-worker
BW: Biz-natch woman.

D: Good afternoon, (Super-Happy-Fun-Time Health Clinic). D speaking.
BW: Yes, I have some results that I would like to find out about.
D: Okay, let me get your file out and check if they are back.
--goes and checks--
D: Yes, they are back.
BW: What are the results?
D: I'm sorry, but as a matter of confidentiality, I can't give you results over the phone. It is illegal.
BW: Well, that's just great, what am I supposed to do NOW?
D: I suggest making an appointment with (Dr Spock), or come into the clinic to pick up a copy.
BW: I don't have time to see this doctor. --rant rant about how she is unable to come into the clinic to see the original doctor she saw--
D: You can see any other doctor if that makes it easier.
BW: --rant rant rant about how she can't see any OTHER doctor either--
BW: This is unacceptable. I've recieved results over the phone before. Why can't you just tell me?
D: Because it is ILLEGAL to do so.
BW: Well, you're very abrupt, aren't you? I've spoken to you before, you were abrupt then too --rant rant rant-- What's your manager's name?
D: My name is D, and my managers name is (Captain Kirk). Have a nice day.

--end transmission--

Seriously, which part of "IT IS ILLEGAL" did she not understand? Calling a clinic asking for your results will not get you anywhere. It is a breach of privacy laws. Grrrr!

I get so many people doing this, I just want to strangle them through the phoneline as soon as they ask "What are the results?".

-HEADASPLODE-



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[info]brownkitty
2005-10-06 11:55 am UTC (link)
Too bad you can't beam them a Klingon to explain their results.

"You have a perfectly healthy spleen." ::SLICE!!!:: "See? Perfectly healthy."

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[info]muukau
2005-10-06 12:09 pm UTC (link)
Teehee...

yes, never trust a Klingon ;)

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[info]meijhen
2005-10-06 01:52 pm UTC (link)
Wow, in the US, the patient themselves can get their results over the phone, health professionals just can't give results to anyone else (unless the patient is a minor, of course).

What a pain, to have to make an appointment to go in just to find out that your test results were normal!

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[info]indefatigable42
2005-10-06 01:58 pm UTC (link)
How do they set that up so that they're sure the person calling is in fact the patient?

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[info]dianawinters
2005-10-06 02:28 pm UTC (link)
Usually, I think, they may have the doctor or a nurse call back - he/she's more likely to be able to answer any questions about what the results mean than an office person anyway - and ask for the patient before identifying themselves.

Some of it's a judgement call too, probably - something like pregnancy or HIV test results is highly sensitive information and more carefully guarded than, say, a normal hematocrit.

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[info]myselftheliar
2005-10-06 02:34 pm UTC (link)
I used to work at a clinic and the way we did it was ask for the social security, date of birth, home address, date of last appointment etc etc and various other informations first. its figured that if someone else has alllll that information and wants the results, they must *really* want it

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[info]jstarr55
2005-10-06 02:19 pm UTC (link)
Why is it that when someone it told you can't do something their immediate reaction is to say they've done it before with you or another person? I work in a gas station and get told 50 times a day that other people break the law or company policy just for them because they are so special!. Beam me up, Scotty. There is no intelligent life on this planet.

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[info]bester
2005-10-06 05:47 pm UTC (link)
It's still confidential information. While legal in the US, most clinics and hospitals that I've dealt with won't give out any information over the phone unless they were the ones to call you. The few that do often make you sign an agreement which states that you give explicit permission to give that information over a received call.

This is especially important for STD clinics, where even the information that you were there at all can cause problems if someone other than you were to get it.

People are very quick to sue in this country, and any leaked confidential information often results in a costly lawsuit.

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[info]jrs1980
2005-10-06 10:26 pm UTC (link)
I must have missed the part where they were rude.

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[info]redlemon
2005-10-06 06:01 pm UTC (link)
In this posters country, which is NOT the US, it.is.illegal. Maybe it does seem odd, but that doesn't change laws. If it was a life or death situation, you think the lady would have made an appointment to come back rather then just rant on and on. Illegalness is illegalness, no matter what we think.

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[info]lilenth
2005-10-06 06:44 pm UTC (link)

I wouldn't want my doctor giving out my test results over the phone, generally you need to make another appointment to either have them explained if they're abnormal or to arrange other testing if they don't pinpoint what's wrong with you. Any sensible person would want a doctors appointment so they could explain the results if the person doesn't understand them.

I always pick mine up myself, and I'm _seriously_ sick myself plus I have never contradicted or argued with a receptionist ever, if they say it's illegal, it's illegal. End of story.

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[info]adjamemnon
2005-10-06 06:58 pm UTC (link)
Actually, we don't know if she's sick. Before I could be prescribed some anti-depressants, I had a ton of blood tests done on me. Not life or death, strictly speaking.

Second, we don't know if the doctor doesn't call people back, but it could be that he is dealing with higher priority cases at this point. For example, the results of my blood tests could have waited for real emergencies.

Third, what's the point of getting the information from a receptionist, when if the results are truly bad, you'd want to talk to a doctor?

Fourth, if you are in such a life-and-death sick situation, shouldn't you make the time to see a doctor to get your results?

Finally, the poster of this story wasn't really that rude. She informed the person that she can't do something because it is illegal. She offers multiple options to get the information, but she makes sure that the caller knows that what she is asking is against the law.

Perhaps learning the whole story would be wise before you command someone to leave a profession?

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[info]_tumblweed
2005-10-06 10:09 pm UTC (link)
I don't understand why you keep insisting the lady was sick. Do you know her? I get routine blood tests all the time, and I'm healthy aside from a mild hormonal disorder.

I agree with your point about the doctor, although it underscores the supposition that the results came back normal. Generally they call if there's a problem.

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[info]scitters
2005-10-06 07:01 pm UTC (link)
Depends on the test, when I got tested for HIV they treated it almost too seriously. If I had it I would be scheduled for counceling automaticly before I got the results, only my doctor and the lab woman would know the results, and I could only get the results from the lab person or the doctor, not even another doctor. I think they went overboard with all the security though, because in the 6 day wait, because of this I Was sure I was positive and they were just trying to strongly hint at it. Drove me insane that I wasn't just waiting for a phone call.

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[info]lokifin
2005-10-06 10:47 pm UTC (link)
Actually, even if you don't have a positive test, you should automatically get pre- and post-test counseling with individualized risk-reduction information, and HIV tests require coming back personally for the results, regardless of the outcome. And yeah, it drives you insane, but it's meant to help both those who need to be hooked up with treatment ASAP and those who need assistance reducing further risk of exposure. If you didn't receive all of the above, your testing site isn't doing what it should.

Thankfully, rapid testing is now available that allows patients to be tested and receive results in one visit.

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[info]ambientcopper
2005-10-06 10:54 pm UTC (link)
A big reason for the pre AND post counseling even with a negative test is that in many many places (in the US anyhow), HIV testing is funded by the government as an educational program. Maybe this is not true if you go to your actual doctor, but if it's a clinic or something... they only get money if they educate every person who comes in. So you have to sit through the counseling to get your free/cheap test, so that the clinic or whatever can in turn get reimbursed for the money it cost.

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[info]chili_das_schaf
2005-10-06 09:43 pm UTC (link)
One could argue about the sense of that law (I can get doctor's results by phone but I'm in Germany) but it shows again the inability of customers to get the fact that you are not making this up to mock the customer but just doing your job and trying not to get fired. Damn, she acts as if you invented that law yourself.

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[info]chili_das_schaf
2005-10-06 09:44 pm UTC (link)
I mean, your coworker. Argh.

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[info]fresh_tart
2005-10-07 05:26 pm UTC (link)
It's kind of too bad that the gov't is taking HIPPA so far - is this in the US, or do other countries have equally stupid laws? HIPPA's a good idea, in theory, but in practice it's far too limiting. It shouldn't be illegal to say "Your scan was negative" or "We need to do further tests" or something like that over the phone, if you can verify the person's identity (social, DOB, what-have-you). I think having to come back in to see the doctor just to hear "You're fine" is ridiculous, and expensive if you don't have insurance.

If you're not in the US, then most of that little rant didn't apply to you, but I'm still sorry some people can't understand the word "illegal". Have a cookie.

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