please do not comment making me feel bad.
::edit:: I am referring to this thread; wherin mean comments led to some really uncalled for insults.

http://community.livejournal.com/craftgrrl/9174096.html



Crafting isnt about what other people like, its about creating something that YOU like.

There are several things on this community that I havent really been turned on to.  I keep it to myself.  There may be things I am delighted to have made that others might find disgusting.    My mom always told me if you have nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all.

Lets be nice to each other and respect our differences.  Not to sound like an elementary school teacher (which, in fact, I am)but insults will do none of us any good. 

We are all here to look at new and different things people make.  Remember, if its not your style, you don't have to leave a comment stating so.  To each their own.  The artist has every right to be happy with something they've created. 

I've become a little hesitant to post things that I've made because I'm afraid to get comments about how hideous they are. 

I'd like to feel welcomed and appreciated, no matter what I post.

Just my two cents, and to make this on topic:    my room.  I made the curtains out of a shower curtain, the mirror with covered cardboard (and the lamp matches,)  the white magnetic board, and the garbage can has colored velcro on it.

ok thanks everyone.

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	lileepers 2006-09-11 02:33 pm UTC (link)
	did i miss some drama or something? i dont recall this community ever being a mean place O_o (Reply to this) (Thread)

	filming 2006-09-11 02:37 pm UTC (link)
	Same. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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	cdozo 2006-09-11 02:38 pm UTC (link)
	I like what you did. I read this community because I am not crafty at all. So anyone who posts here is ahead of me. I like the color scheme in your set-up. (Reply to this)

	veridianeyes 2006-09-11 02:46 pm UTC (link)
	I love your mirror and lamp! Especially the way they tone in with the pillows. Green and pink was a colour way I hadn't considered before. thanks for expanding my colour horizons! (Reply to this) (Thread)

peppercini 2006-09-11 02:58 pm UTC (link)

thank you. the mirror has pink beads on the bottom. this was actually taken a little after my birthday, which is why there are sunflowers on the lamp. (I LOVE SUNFLOWERS!) and my best friend gave me a ton and put them around my room--they arent there anymore. I love the lie green and pink combo, and I've gotten a lot of compliments on my room (when its clean!!) saying it looks like something out of Pottery Barn Teen. so, thanks again! :-D (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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	bitchygurl 2006-09-11 02:55 pm UTC (link)
	where did you get the curtains/shower curtains? i love them, and they would be brilliant in my pink/brown/cream room. (Reply to this) (Thread)

peppercini 2006-09-11 03:02 pm UTC (link)

I bought them on clearance at Marshalls (a discount dept. store) maybe a year ago? I was looking for a normal shower curtain, and found this, which my mom and I decided needed to be in my room. Sometimes shower curtains are cheaper, prettier, and longer than normal curtains. Since my apartment has awkward dimensions, this worked perfectly. I checked for tags, but no luck. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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maddening 2006-09-11 03:02 pm UTC (link)

I'm just impressed you chose and got a color sheme to run together. I end up with "families" of tones. Everything is sort of "fall-ish" colors or tones. Or everything is vaguely in the same tone family. Pulling together a hot pink/pale green combo and making it work is daunting for me, but it looks great. And I have to agree, the mirror looks like something I'd see at a store and the curtains are a *great* find. awesome. And that drama-rama in that other thread is the kind of judgemental nasty comment that typically doesn't happen here. I've been reading (not posting. My craftiness goes undocumented. heh) for uh.. 2 years or so. That kind of thing just doesn't happen here. (Reply to this)

	arian_diana 2006-09-11 03:11 pm UTC (link)
	The mean comments came from people with a low intelligence level who think it's 'fun' to join communities like http://craftgrrl_snark.livejournal.com/. Our mods need to take some action in my opinion. As for the room, I like how it turned out. I don't know that I would have thought to use shower curtains as a curtain by my bed. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	peppercini 2006-09-11 03:21 pm UTC (link)
	its fabric!!! not a shower liner. so you really cant tell its a shower curtain; except that it has holes sewn into the top in order to hang it. but i wove the curtain rod through them, it works perfectly! its a bit heavier than a normal curtain, but i love it!! (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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amateurs. - radlett, 2006-09-11 04:05 pm UTC

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Re: amateurs. - radlett, 2006-09-11 04:58 pm UTC

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	ifyouputiton 2006-09-11 03:14 pm UTC (link)
	I like that you were able to coordinate the colors from various found objects/materials. looks cozy! (Reply to this)

eli_l 2006-09-11 03:20 pm UTC (link)

My mom always told me if you have nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all. I disagree, the first comment in the other post was obliviously harsh, but later on they were some really well-written constructive criticism, which I enjoy more than 12 comments of "OMG that's awesome" even when all twelve are well-deserved. I don't personnaly see this community as bitchy, one poster here even said "you guys are like the best confidence booster. ^_^ And I like your colour coordination. It's very daring and I wouldn't have had the guts to try it. :D (Reply to this) (Thread)

	ne_jyam 2006-09-11 04:47 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, the first comment was totally mean-spirited and unhelpful. After that one, there were some helpful constructive criticisms. I tend to interpret Thumper's line there as referring to comments like the first one to that post. But constructive criticism falls under nice things to say, if they're worded respectfully and...well, nicely. :3 (Reply to this) (Parent)

(no subject) - geca, 2006-09-11 07:47 pm UTC

	midorable 2006-09-11 03:28 pm UTC (link)
	You know, the lamp wasn't my thing and I moved right along, the curtains are cool. And like one of the poster from the 'mean' thread said, if you like it, what's it matter if others don't. If you like it, it's a great piece of work! (Reply to this)

	stop_whispering 2006-09-11 03:58 pm UTC (link)
	Really like what you've done, very creative :) (Reply to this)

	notapromqueen 2006-09-11 04:15 pm UTC (link)
	I like your room, Rachel. And, I hate LJ drama. I think we're on the same page. ♥ (Reply to this) (Thread)

	peppercini 2006-09-11 08:00 pm UTC (link)
	thanks! this actually turned out a lot worse than i was expecting! i never wanted the drama, i was just suggesting people be a little nicer?! my goodness! I joined this comm because of youuuuuu, miss laura! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	cyn 2006-09-11 04:20 pm UTC (link)
	love it!!!! really cute & wacky in the best of ways. (Reply to this)

	ihave_themoon 2006-09-11 04:30 pm UTC (link)
	lamp aside, i think its crummy to make negative comments on someones work. i agree about the age old saying "if you cant say something nice dont say anything at all". however, did i miss something in your comment back where you said something to the replier about death cab? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	parasitegirl 2006-09-12 12:43 am UTC (link)
	That's a different poster. It's the post that he/she is alluding to, but was posted by a different person. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

(no subject) - ihave_themoon, 2006-09-12 01:11 am UTC

	wiccanslyr 2006-09-11 05:01 pm UTC (link)
	OOOOO! Pink and Green! That's one of my Favorite color combos! The shower curtain makes lovely window covering. (Reply to this)

perpet 2006-09-11 06:23 pm UTC (link)

can't stand the feedback, stay out of the comm. Whether the comments were harsh or not, the post in question requested feedback. You're getting persnickity over one comment, and trying to use it to say that the snarkers are mean, evil people who should be banned. So somebody got into somebody's face, and yet it's you, not the original poster of the lamp, who is getting her shorts in a knot. As the OP of the lamp post doesn't feel the need to whine, perhaps you shouldn't stand up and do it for her. That being said, I do like your curtain fabric. I've always been fond of that particular, eye-searing color combination. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	damn_tatterhood 2006-09-11 07:12 pm UTC (link)
	I dunno, I'm thinking that while critical comments are certainly the norm, it's not like tact should be tossed out the window. Personally, I didn't much like the lamp. However, if I'd wanted to comment on it, I would have offered something more than "that's the tackiest thing I've ever seen!" (Reply to this) (Parent)

	thejoysofjess 2006-09-11 06:47 pm UTC (link)
	First off, please do not make additional entries about the drama. It helps keep drama fresh in our minds and does not help it die down. Secondly, I have that bedspread! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	peppercini 2006-09-11 07:48 pm UTC (link)
	jcpenney? it was on sale, and it matched my color scheme PERFECTLY. now it looks like my room was built around it, but it wasnt. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

(no subject) - thejoysofjess, 2006-09-11 10:18 pm UTC

damn_tatterhood 2006-09-11 07:09 pm UTC (link)

What got me was the first comment on that post was "That has to be the [sic] nost tackiest/scene lamp I've ever seen." Seriously, what's the rationale for saying something like that? I agree that constructive criticism is important when it comes to being able to grow, craft-wise, but there's a distinct difference between saying "it's interesting, although next time why not try...." and "ugh, I've never seen anything so hideous in my entire adult life." (Reply to this)

space_machine 2006-09-11 09:28 pm UTC (link)

I agree that if you can't take criticism, get out of the comm. Obviously, not everything everyone makes is everyone elses cup of tea. But the point of a lot of communities is to get feedback on what you've made. And if it happens to need some work, then people should be able to tell you that. Of course, there's no need to be really mean about it, but if it's not that nice looking, I sure as hell ain't gonna lie and say it is. However, I will try and mention ways to make it better. If you post crafts and just expect people to gush over it, sooner or later, you will be sorely dissapointed. This is not your mother's refridgerator :P (Reply to this)

weeefairy 2006-09-11 09:57 pm UTC (link)

i really like your bedroom ^^ its all pretty and color coordinated this way and thats just awesome. one comment about the mean comment thing though, on the internet, there are always people who decide to be randomly mean and bashing to strangers. and yes, unfortunetly, they are in most communities on lj (except for really tiny ones, or really inactive ones) but! no needs to worry, most people here on craftgrrl are very very friendly and encouraging people :D (Reply to this)

	fragilelily 2006-09-11 10:03 pm UTC (link)
	That shower curtain idea is brilliant! I have venetian blinds in my room but would love to have more of a traditional window curtain with some style to spice up my room. I love the colours, you've done a great job at sticking to one colour scheme! LOVE IT. (Reply to this)

llamables 2006-09-12 12:33 am UTC (link)

I really like what you've done with the room. My room's theme is mainly green but.. not half as creative as that ;p. Anyway, refering to the past thread.. of course it's about creating what we personally like. But putting it into a community, you are going to draw some unwelcome comments that you just have to learn to deal with. You're leaving it open to anyone to say anything about it. If all that matters is that you like it then the rest of the comments shouldn't matter, right? Then I don't see the problem. (Reply to this)

	notaspork 2006-09-12 02:36 am UTC (link)
	Awww, cute! I love hot pink and green together. (Reply to this)

	k8ertater 2006-09-12 03:07 am UTC (link)
	high five for being an elementary school teacher!!! (too bad i'm only working part time right now though : ( colored velcro!? i've never seen it. how fancy that it matches the color scheme too! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	peppercini 2006-09-12 02:56 pm UTC (link)
	yay! I'm actually still in college, but I teach 2 days a week and help run an after school program. my momma found the colored velcro! I'm not sure why, but she decided it needed to go on my garbage can. anddddddd nothing really goes on it but whatev, its a cool effect. (Reply to this) (Parent)

mari_mac1109 2006-09-12 03:46 am UTC (link)

Are we suddenly against constructive criticism? Or are we going to look at every piece and say, "My god! That's fabulous!"? No one will grow in their crafting and design abilities if they're coddled all the time. If something I do looks in any way sloppy or unfinished or just plain bad, I'd like to know so I can improve. If we wanted unconditional support and admiration, well, that's what web bots and pets are for. In that case, why have communities? Just so people will compliment us and pat our little heads? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	llamables 2006-09-12 04:12 am UTC (link)
	Here here! ^_^ (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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time for my two cents sheis_slaughter 2006-09-12 05:25 am UTC (link)

Okie dokie so here are my thoughts on this whole issue: Personally I think this community is a great starting point because you can get criticism but in a positive way. I have been doing some crafts for a long time and am much better at them then others. However seeing things on this community that are seemingly simple helps encourage people who have never attempted that particular craft especially after seeing positive responses. I know that's why I bought some polymer clay, because this community made it look fun and people were nice and provided good advice! Plus this community is not the end all to internet craftyness it's just one resource, if you would prefer a community with only advanced members and detailed critiques rather than a comment like "that's cute!" then by all means start one, join others. This is just one option out there and it works for a lot of people who aren't bothered by being courteous to one another even if it is just the internet. now to the OP: I like the mirror! Is it really just cardboard and mirror? Is that sturdy enough? (Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: time for my two cents peppercini 2006-09-12 03:01 pm UTC (link)

the mirror is a circle i found at home depot. its glued on to thick cardbard, and then i covered the cardboard with fabric, and stuffed it with a filling around where the mirror is. it has a sewn on ribbon in order for it to hang. the mirror itself really isnt that heavy, it just looks it. i appreciate your actual comment! i never expected my inbox to be flooded with 80 or so comments arguing! i just wanted everyone to be nicer. guess i did more harm than good, though... (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: time for my two cents - sheis_slaughter, 2006-09-12 05:13 pm UTC

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