cnfessions ([info]cnfessions) wrote in [info]corsetry,
@ 2008-02-05 12:00:00
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A place to come together
Myself and a few others have ordered corsets from L Escarpolette and have had a lot of problems. 
A few of you may remember months ago, I wrote to this community explaining that she would not respond to me, so here is my story.
I ordered an overbust corset and paid in full $450 on Feb. 13, 2007.  I recieved both of my mockups and thing went well for the first few months.  Then Joyce would stop responding to my emails.  She would sign on to Myspace and her Etsy shop everyday, but would not respond to my emails.  Someone from this community wrote to her for me, and Joyce responded to that lady within hours, yet still NEVER responded to me.  After the lady wrote Joyce, I wrote 1 week later and told her I would file a paypal dispute if she didn't respond to me.  She finally responded with an arrogant email.  This email was received after 3 months of attempting to write her more than once a week.  I've tried adding her as a friend of Myspace and Livejournal, so I can also write her there, but she won't add me.  I've written to her also from her website.  I finally asked for my money back, since all the events I wanted to wear the corset to has past and I no longer wear the same size.  She is back to not responding to any of my emails.   Basically I feel like I am out of $450 and since I know I am not alone in this (I know of multiple other people going through the exact same thing) I wanted to warn others of what is going on.
If anyone wants to come forward and talk about an experience they are going through or can in any way help those of us, please come forward.



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[info]mischiefmydear
2008-02-05 06:46 pm UTC (link)
Joyce has, additionally, opened up a second Etsy shop (selling items other than corsets). Just for whatever worth that information may be.

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[info]cnfessions
2008-02-05 06:51 pm UTC (link)
Thank you. :)

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STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW
[info]_arachnoidea_
2008-02-05 07:04 pm UTC (link)
You are NOT alone, this is my story:

I ordered a persephone underbust corset in june 2006 after I just received 2 corsets from her which were so nice and well made that I wanted to have another one right away. I paid half of it when I placed the order in june 2006, I received a mock up after a while in october 2006, and everything seamed to be alright. I sent back the mock up, and we had a good communication all the time about the project.

What happened also in that time was that one of my corsets which I had ordered and received before has gotten some damages. The black leather faded in to the white leather after a only few wears. I told Joyce about that, she felt very sorry and promised to redo the corset for me if I would sent back the corset to her so she could re-use all the bones and stuff.
Nice offer actually from her. So I surely was happy and agreed.

In between I got a message that my persophone would be finished soon, that she was working on it and she wanted me to pay the rest of the money. I did as fast as I could, because I was excited and looking forward to receive my corset soon. So I sent payment end of december 2006. Full amount was 225 Euro and 25 Euro shipping fee.

And just right after the holidays I shipped my black and white leather corset ( which cost me about 190 Euro - it was cheaper because it was made of an already existing pattern and so I also saved the mock up) to her 1/02/2007 - I still have the post receipt here - so I know it has arrived there, I had this checked at the post office already.

After that day - I have never heard anything about Joyce, about my leather corset or about my persephone underbust corset anymore.

Altogether it is an amount about 450 Euro which I have lost. And much more if you add all the shipping fees.

I have emailed her so many times, via myspace and to her email address. But I have not gotten a single word as replay.
I first thought something bad maybe happened to her and I was feeling worried and ashamed to go on her nerves so badly.

But now - after all that time, and after all that emails I have written, I kinda feel ripped off.

Also - one day we all got deleted from her myspace. so I could not write her a message on myspace anymore.

Now, since a while I sent her invoices with paypal to refund at least the amount of the persephone corset and sent back my messed up leather corset to me.

But - no money and no corset! Just nor reaction, not a single word.

No I ask you, has someone around here also noticed that she is not posting anything here anymore? No pictures of her work anymore!
WHY?



Joyce,

Are we not good enough anymore? Are you popular enough - and don't need us anymore?

I cannot understand how you can behave like this. We paid you and this is just NOT correct! I would have understood if there was a problem - you could have told us - but you are not talking, and whatever it is - nobody will believe it by now anymore as too much time has past by.

Joyce - come here and talk to us!



If someone else has made an experience like this with this person - PLEASE STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW!!!

TOGETHER WE ARE STRONGER!












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Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW
[info]cnfessions
2008-02-05 07:11 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for taking the time to write about your experience with her.
I hope something can be done to rectify the damage >.<
It is just so frustrating at this point

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Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]ms_destruction, 2008-02-05 07:12 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 07:13 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]ms_destruction, 2008-02-05 07:16 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 07:18 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]ms_destruction, 2008-02-05 07:19 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 07:21 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]slurketta, 2008-02-05 07:58 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]ms_destruction, 2008-02-05 07:59 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]thebatsmeow, 2008-02-05 08:14 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]ms_destruction, 2008-02-05 08:18 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 08:19 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]thebatsmeow, 2008-02-05 08:25 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 08:18 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 08:19 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]thebatsmeow, 2008-02-05 08:23 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]gigmick, 2008-02-05 10:01 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 07:20 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 07:21 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 07:30 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]ms_destruction, 2008-02-05 08:00 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 08:06 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]delirium71, 2008-02-05 08:08 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 08:11 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 08:13 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]lilithsatyne, 2008-02-05 10:31 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 10:32 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]alibaster, 2008-02-06 02:24 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-06 05:17 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]lilithsatyne, 2008-02-06 10:27 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]dip_thong, 2008-02-07 07:31 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]gigmick, 2008-02-05 07:43 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 07:46 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 07:55 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]ms_destruction, 2008-02-05 08:02 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 08:04 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 08:06 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]ms_destruction, 2008-02-05 08:07 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]gigmick, 2008-02-05 09:29 pm UTC
Re: STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 09:32 pm UTC
Overseas moves - [info]thebatsmeow, 2008-02-05 08:21 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]all_ephemera, 2008-02-05 08:24 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]thebatsmeow, 2008-02-05 08:30 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]all_ephemera, 2008-02-05 08:32 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]thebatsmeow, 2008-02-05 08:36 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 08:38 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]thebatsmeow, 2008-02-05 08:42 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 08:43 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]lilithsatyne, 2008-02-05 10:38 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 10:41 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]lilithsatyne, 2008-02-05 10:40 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]all_ephemera, 2008-02-05 08:39 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]thebatsmeow, 2008-02-05 08:41 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 08:42 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 08:34 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]all_ephemera, 2008-02-05 08:38 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 08:40 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]obisotray, 2008-02-05 10:55 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]all_ephemera, 2008-02-06 12:14 am UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 08:39 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 08:25 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]streetfaerie, 2008-02-07 05:22 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]thebatsmeow, 2008-02-07 06:19 pm UTC
Re: Overseas moves - [info]streetfaerie, 2008-02-07 10:35 pm UTC

[info]diannadinoble
2008-02-05 07:13 pm UTC (link)
Wow, I'm so sorry this is still going on :(

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[info]cnfessions
2008-02-05 07:15 pm UTC (link)
It is such a shame too, because I had never heard any bad reviews about her.
I've wrote to her multiple times that if something happened, I don't mind waiting for my corset, I just wanted to know what was going on.
She wouldn't write me, but would go on Myspace and Etsy everyday

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(no subject) - [info]diannadinoble, 2008-02-05 07:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 07:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 07:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 08:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 08:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 08:12 pm UTC

[info]random_c
2008-02-05 07:46 pm UTC (link)
I paid the first bit, got the mockup OK, but the size was way off, so I was going to fix it myself so it fit then send it back for her to fix it, but after I've seen so many people having problems, I decided to forget that and treat it as having paid for a pattern, and make it myself when I can be bothered.

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[info]_arachnoidea_
2008-02-05 07:57 pm UTC (link)
so she never asked you if your mockup was fine or when you will return it?

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(no subject) - [info]random_c, 2008-02-06 11:37 am UTC

[info]mina_lafleur
2008-02-05 08:25 pm UTC (link)
I'm not sure it will help, but perhaps it would be worthwhile to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau: http://betterbusinessbureau.ca/AboutBBB/Index.aspx

Such an unfortunately situation for you all. :(

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[info]_arachnoidea_
2008-02-05 08:29 pm UTC (link)
Thanks, good idea maybe!

Grrr, to hard for me to understand as I am german.

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(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 08:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 08:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lilithsatyne, 2008-02-05 10:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-06 04:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lilithsatyne, 2008-02-06 10:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]emaryslyneth, 2008-02-06 12:23 am UTC

[info]ravenfrogsuperk
2008-02-05 08:57 pm UTC (link)
Perhaps you can complain to Esty?

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[info]cnfessions
2008-02-05 08:59 pm UTC (link)
I didn't order mine from her Etsy shop, she created that a few months after she stopped responding to me

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[info]ladyasenath
2008-02-05 09:11 pm UTC (link)
It appears that Joyce is not talking to me anymore either. Never mind that I just wanted to know how well they had settled into their new home and pointed out some error on her website or etsy shop, I don't really now anymore. But she still has a piece of fabric and lace (maybe, if she hasn't chucked them out already) I had sent her for the next corset. Naturally, both were some of my special finds I can't just buy again and send to someone else :-(.
I do have the impression we are just not good enough anymore for her for one reason or the other.

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[info]cnfessions
2008-02-05 09:13 pm UTC (link)
I have heard a rumor that she only makes corset for rich or something like that.

I also get the feeling we are not good enough.
Someone should email her this Lj entry and hope she reads it

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(no subject) - [info]thebatsmeow, 2008-02-05 09:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 09:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 09:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 09:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ms_destruction, 2008-02-05 09:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 09:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ms_destruction, 2008-02-05 09:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 09:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ms_destruction, 2008-02-05 09:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 09:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyasenath, 2008-02-05 11:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]all_ephemera, 2008-02-05 09:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 09:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]all_ephemera, 2008-02-05 09:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 09:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 09:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 09:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyasenath, 2008-02-05 11:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-06 04:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pitufina, 2008-02-05 09:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyasenath, 2008-02-05 11:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pitufina, 2008-02-05 11:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 11:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-06 04:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pitufina, 2008-02-05 11:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyasenath, 2008-02-06 12:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-06 04:38 pm UTC

[info]super_loulou
2008-02-05 09:55 pm UTC (link)
I'm so sorry this has happened to you all. Didn't anyone get a positive PayPal dispute resolution? My boyfriend purchased a coat from eBay. It was delivered but was clearly the wrong size. We emailed them 6 times over 8 weeks to which they didn't reply so we filed the dispute. PayPal contacted them 3 times over about 2 weeks, which they ignored, and so PayPal refunded us in full on the grounds that their failure to respond was as good as an admission of guilt.

Surely if we got such a great and quick resolution when we HAD a coat, albeit the wrong size, it should be relatively simple to get corset refunds?

Lou

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[info]cnfessions
2008-02-05 09:57 pm UTC (link)
The problem is I could file a dispute through Paypal, but their disputes are for under 45 days, not 12 months

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(no subject) - [info]all_ephemera, 2008-02-05 10:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 10:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lecari, 2008-02-06 12:17 am UTC

[info]super_loulou
2008-02-05 10:05 pm UTC (link)
Oh wow that completely and utterly sucks! So it's more or less useless for prepayment of long-term orders? God, it's a good job Meschantes came through with my corsets last year or I'd have been out $523! They have a 6 week delivery target so even if they go a week over then they never arrive you're not covered? That's shocking.

Can't you go through the credit card company direct? Like when a holiday firm goes out of business but you get your money refunded because it's their liability not yours? Just trying to come up with solutions for you poor ladies :(

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[info]cnfessions
2008-02-05 10:07 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for your help.
I am going to call my debit card company tomorow morning and hope they help.

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(no subject) - [info]super_loulou, 2008-02-05 10:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 10:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ishkhara, 2008-02-06 01:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-06 01:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]emaryslyneth, 2008-02-06 03:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]must_we, 2008-02-06 07:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-06 07:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]must_we, 2008-02-06 07:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]emaryslyneth, 2008-02-07 05:32 am UTC

[info]gigmick
2008-02-05 10:12 pm UTC (link)
Thanks everybody for the support.

If I'm summing up the situation :
- cnfessions, arachnoidea and I have lost a few hundred euros, have no more mockup and no news, Things seem to have changed before she moved in summer.
- ms_destruction, slurketta and random_c are only at the first stage (sorry I'm bitter), they have paid, have a mockup and are asking themselves whether they should go further or not.

Is there anybody else in one of those situations ? Could anybody join Joyce by phone ?

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[info]pitufina
2008-02-05 10:21 pm UTC (link)
I don't know if you saw this whole fiasco, but was a big deal almost a year ago regarding the same type of experience: http://community.livejournal.com/corsetry/1280566.html

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(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 10:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gigmick, 2008-02-05 10:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 10:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-06 04:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]random_c, 2008-02-06 11:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]robinia_acacia, 2008-02-06 12:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]robinia_acacia, 2008-02-06 12:12 pm UTC

[info]cnfessions
2008-02-05 10:21 pm UTC (link)
Wow, 100 replies! :O

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[info]_arachnoidea_
2008-02-06 04:44 pm UTC (link)
hehe, yes!

And soon 200!

BTW - I have a phonenumer too!

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[info]auroraceleste
2008-02-05 10:50 pm UTC (link)
What to do if you are Scammed on Ebay

I know it wasn't Ebay, but a lot of the investigations and reports are the same for any internet/international fraud.

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This wont help much, but maybe you would still like to know
[info]torturebyrosies
2008-02-05 11:37 pm UTC (link)
She's here too:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=260333499

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[info]benson3
2008-02-05 11:38 pm UTC (link)
For those who ordered from the US. The USPS will investigate as what this woman has done is considered mail fraud. It is illegal to accept money via the US mail for items and then not deliver them.

I suggest a group lawsuit filed in both France and Canada. I would also research what sorts of consumer protection each of those countries affords you.

I have fucked up on one or two orders in my 20+ year career. I have always communicated why and what for though. Good God there was this Halloween costume fiasco a few years back when I nearly died of pneumonia......I still feel shitty about that one.

At any rate she is being absolutely disgraceful

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[info]cnfessions
2008-02-05 11:41 pm UTC (link)
Wow, thank you so much for that info.
That is definately something to look into!
*goes off to search for more info*

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(no subject) - [info]emaryslyneth, 2008-02-06 03:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wolfsilveroak, 2008-02-07 11:43 pm UTC

[info]electradesigns
2008-02-06 12:07 am UTC (link)
It breaks my heart that this keeps going on. I see new listings from Joyce all the time. I used to wonder how she was able to make so many corsets so quickly. Now it's quite obvious she doesn't actually make the corsets. She just takes orders and people's money. Over the years I have read so many stories about this exact behavior, yet people continued to place orders with her despite the horror stories. I guess everyone believes "it will never happen to me". Many of the stories I have been told were sent in confidence and not posted online, so I know there are MANY more of you out there who are too polite or too afraid to come forward. Unless someone actually sues her, she will keep doing this. She just keeps opening up shops and taking orders. The internet gives her an endless supply of victims. The reason I am so upset about this is because Joyce gives honest corset makers a bad name. An experience like that would turn anyone away from trusting another corset maker in the future. We all suffer. We all mess up, get sick, occasionally miss deadlines, forget to do something, etc., but Joyce has made a real habit of good old fashioned robbery. There is no excuse for that, and I feel for everyone who has suffered needlessly for her gain. I don't care how "good" her work appears to be. If you don't get what you paid for, all you have are pretty promises and empty pockets.

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[info]cnfessions
2008-02-06 12:13 am UTC (link)
I had never heard bad things about her before. I had only heard about how beautiful her corsets were when I ordered. That is why I came forward here, to help warn others of what she is doing.
It is not beneficial to me to sue her, because the cost of international small claims court or hiring a lawyer would outweigh what I paid for the corset. so I hope that this will do my part to help prevent some of her actions.

Speaking personally I will NOT allow this experience to prevent me from future orders from OTHER corset makers. In fact, a different corset maker came up when she heard about this and did wonderful things to help me.
I am going to look into the United States Postal Service and see if I can file a mail fraud charge so at least she can be investigated

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(no subject) - [info]electradesigns, 2008-02-06 02:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-06 02:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ktnzgtklws, 2008-02-06 02:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]electradesigns, 2008-02-06 02:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-06 02:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]robinia_acacia, 2008-02-06 12:06 pm UTC

[info]cnfessions
2008-02-06 12:36 am UTC (link)
Wow, what a huge response!
Thanks for all the support

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[info]secrets_n_lies
2008-02-06 12:43 am UTC (link)
i really really hope somehow this gets sorted, or at least she gets what is coming to her if she is really ripping so many people off. its disgusting really.

i have been holding off buying an expensive corset until i found the right designer and she was in my top list of people... well not any more.

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[info]cnfessions
2008-02-06 12:46 am UTC (link)
It really is such a shame.
She WAS on the top of my list of corset makers, now she's not.
I love her work, it's unique and sturdy and strong and beautiful, etc but NONE of that makes up for rude and horrible customer service

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(no subject) - [info]all_ephemera, 2008-02-06 12:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lordess, 2008-02-06 01:47 am UTC

[info]jaborwhalky
2008-02-06 03:20 am UTC (link)
wow
I got lucky and got my corset.
Hope you get your cash back

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[info]waster60268
2008-02-06 08:32 am UTC (link)
oh my goodness.. this is [still going on! and] so scary and wrong in so many ways.

i'd held off on ordering from her because i wanted to wait 'til i had enough money to do so - the work is so amazing and beautiful - and maybe this makes it even worse; it's heartbreaking not to receive the corset you've been dreaming of, nevermind losing so much money on something you haven't received.

argh! i hope you guys can somehow recover your money, corsets, materials, and sanity. this community is a good place to start doing that, though, and i wish you the best.

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[info]winter_serenity
2008-02-06 08:52 am UTC (link)
Good heavens! I found this community not a moment too soon! I was considering ordering from her, but, for some reason, don't feel comfortable doing so now.

And, if that "rich client" rumour is true, well, she won't be getting clients who know me! (I model and will definitely mention to a few other corseted models these shady business practices!)

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Slightly OT
[info]thebatsmeow
2008-02-06 09:03 am UTC (link)
What an interesting icon you have! I am straining my eyes trying to get a good look at it!

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Re: Slightly OT - [info]winter_serenity, 2008-02-06 09:22 am UTC
Re: Slightly OT - [info]thebatsmeow, 2008-02-06 09:34 am UTC
Re: Slightly OT - [info]winter_serenity, 2008-02-06 09:37 am UTC
Re: Slightly OT - [info]lupie_stardust, 2008-02-06 12:42 pm UTC

[info]ninshubur
2008-02-06 11:07 am UTC (link)
I know it is not much consolation for those waiting for corsets or refunds, but here's what I know about the current state of affairs regarding Creations l'Escarpolette:

Due to some complications with her move Joyce was only able to restart working on corsets in October and has again suffered a major setback in her plans and her ability to work in late December, which as far as I know hasn't been resolved yet.

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[info]thebatsmeow
2008-02-06 12:18 pm UTC (link)
Well, the complications and *major setback* certainly isn't interrupting her Etsy store. And it certainly isn't preventing her from opening up a new Etsy store, selling leather gaiters.
Some of these unfilled orders date back to 2006. That's an awful long time, wouldn't you agree?

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(no subject) - [info]ninshubur, 2008-02-06 01:20 pm UTC
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[info]lilithsatyne
2008-02-06 11:19 am UTC (link)
i would consider everyone telling everyone they know what has happened.

on myspace and profile pages..

just put a blog entry or bulleting saying do not buy corsets from. and then post to this link so that people can see it's justified. might not get the corsets back, but could save alot of others money and heartache

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[info]robinia_acacia
2008-02-06 11:57 am UTC (link)
This could have been my story..it actually is!!
I wrote to this communtiy last year..for more information, add me as a friend, ill ad you back and you can see horrible pics on my LJ of the mock up and my story.
I have some ways to contact her, such as her personal phone number, i hope still works.
If you respond on my LJ, i can give that to you.
After posting my story, i received a number of emails from girls who never ever got their money, nor their corset.

The only reason i got my money back, was because is started a riot on LJ and many people responded.
After that her LJ is members only, you can only be one if your think she is amazing, willing to pay big bucks..


I'm sorry to hear that even after my posts, girls still get robbed by her and will help you in any way i can!!!!!

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[info]immoralfear
2008-02-06 05:34 pm UTC (link)
Added you.

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(no subject) - [info]gigmick, 2008-02-06 08:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]robinia_acacia, 2008-02-06 10:09 pm UTC
Here's a link to her current Etsy shop selling boot covers.
[info]paisleycat
2008-02-06 01:25 pm UTC (link)
You'll note it has no information about any undue delays or difficulties, but also has no record of successfully completed orders.

Perhaps this link or talking to the Etsy people about her record might be a useful angle, I hope so.

http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5588912

Good luck, ladies. You have my support and sympathy.

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Re: Here's a link to her current Etsy shop selling boot covers.
[info]cnfessions
2008-02-06 05:20 pm UTC (link)
I wrote to Etsy about the situation and linked them to here, so hopefully they will look into it

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Re: Here's a link to her current Etsy shop selling boot covers. - [info]mischiefmydear, 2008-02-06 05:20 pm UTC

[info]cnfessions
2008-02-06 05:19 pm UTC (link)
Anybody been able to get a hold of her yet?

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[info]_arachnoidea_
2008-02-06 06:07 pm UTC (link)
no, everything is slient!

But I just posted myspace bulletins and linked them to here. Unfortunatly I do not have too many friends in my list. But hopefully someone else will pass it to others and so on... so we can reach as much people as possible to read our warning and save them to loose mony!

Good thing to write etsy.

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(no subject) - [info]lilithsatyne, 2008-02-07 11:16 pm UTC

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