cnfessions ([info]cnfessions) wrote in [info]corsetry,
@ 2008-02-05 12:00:00
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A place to come together
Myself and a few others have ordered corsets from L Escarpolette and have had a lot of problems. 
A few of you may remember months ago, I wrote to this community explaining that she would not respond to me, so here is my story.
I ordered an overbust corset and paid in full $450 on Feb. 13, 2007.  I recieved both of my mockups and thing went well for the first few months.  Then Joyce would stop responding to my emails.  She would sign on to Myspace and her Etsy shop everyday, but would not respond to my emails.  Someone from this community wrote to her for me, and Joyce responded to that lady within hours, yet still NEVER responded to me.  After the lady wrote Joyce, I wrote 1 week later and told her I would file a paypal dispute if she didn't respond to me.  She finally responded with an arrogant email.  This email was received after 3 months of attempting to write her more than once a week.  I've tried adding her as a friend of Myspace and Livejournal, so I can also write her there, but she won't add me.  I've written to her also from her website.  I finally asked for my money back, since all the events I wanted to wear the corset to has past and I no longer wear the same size.  She is back to not responding to any of my emails.   Basically I feel like I am out of $450 and since I know I am not alone in this (I know of multiple other people going through the exact same thing) I wanted to warn others of what is going on.
If anyone wants to come forward and talk about an experience they are going through or can in any way help those of us, please come forward.


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[info]mischiefmydear
2008-02-05 06:46 pm UTC (link)
Joyce has, additionally, opened up a second Etsy shop (selling items other than corsets). Just for whatever worth that information may be.

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(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 06:51 pm UTC
STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW
[info]_arachnoidea_
2008-02-05 07:04 pm UTC (link)
You are NOT alone, this is my story:

I ordered a persephone underbust corset in june 2006 after I just received 2 corsets from her which were so nice and well made that I wanted to have another one right away. I paid half of it when I placed the order in june 2006, I received a mock up after a while in october 2006, and everything seamed to be alright. I sent back the mock up, and we had a good communication all the time about the project.

What happened also in that time was that one of my corsets which I had ordered and received before has gotten some damages. The black leather faded in to the white leather after a only few wears. I told Joyce about that, she felt very sorry and promised to redo the corset for me if I would sent back the corset to her so she could re-use all the bones and stuff.
Nice offer actually from her. So I surely was happy and agreed.

In between I got a message that my persophone would be finished soon, that she was working on it and she wanted me to pay the rest of the money. I did as fast as I could, because I was excited and looking forward to receive my corset soon. So I sent payment end of december 2006. Full amount was 225 Euro and 25 Euro shipping fee.

And just right after the holidays I shipped my black and white leather corset ( which cost me about 190 Euro - it was cheaper because it was made of an already existing pattern and so I also saved the mock up) to her 1/02/2007 - I still have the post receipt here - so I know it has arrived there, I had this checked at the post office already.

After that day - I have never heard anything about Joyce, about my leather corset or about my persephone underbust corset anymore.

Altogether it is an amount about 450 Euro which I have lost. And much more if you add all the shipping fees.

I have emailed her so many times, via myspace and to her email address. But I have not gotten a single word as replay.
I first thought something bad maybe happened to her and I was feeling worried and ashamed to go on her nerves so badly.

But now - after all that time, and after all that emails I have written, I kinda feel ripped off.

Also - one day we all got deleted from her myspace. so I could not write her a message on myspace anymore.

Now, since a while I sent her invoices with paypal to refund at least the amount of the persephone corset and sent back my messed up leather corset to me.

But - no money and no corset! Just nor reaction, not a single word.

No I ask you, has someone around here also noticed that she is not posting anything here anymore? No pictures of her work anymore!
WHY?



Joyce,

Are we not good enough anymore? Are you popular enough - and don't need us anymore?

I cannot understand how you can behave like this. We paid you and this is just NOT correct! I would have understood if there was a problem - you could have told us - but you are not talking, and whatever it is - nobody will believe it by now anymore as too much time has past by.

Joyce - come here and talk to us!



If someone else has made an experience like this with this person - PLEASE STAND UP AND SPEAK NOW!!!

TOGETHER WE ARE STRONGER!












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Overseas moves - [info]thebatsmeow, 2008-02-05 08:21 pm UTC
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[info]diannadinoble
2008-02-05 07:13 pm UTC (link)
Wow, I'm so sorry this is still going on :(

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(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 07:15 pm UTC
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[info]random_c
2008-02-05 07:46 pm UTC (link)
I paid the first bit, got the mockup OK, but the size was way off, so I was going to fix it myself so it fit then send it back for her to fix it, but after I've seen so many people having problems, I decided to forget that and treat it as having paid for a pattern, and make it myself when I can be bothered.

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(no subject) - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 07:57 pm UTC
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[info]mina_lafleur
2008-02-05 08:25 pm UTC (link)
I'm not sure it will help, but perhaps it would be worthwhile to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau: http://betterbusinessbureau.ca/AboutBBB/Index.aspx

Such an unfortunately situation for you all. :(

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(no subject) - [info]_arachnoidea_, 2008-02-05 08:29 pm UTC
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[info]ravenfrogsuperk
2008-02-05 08:57 pm UTC (link)
Perhaps you can complain to Esty?

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[info]ladyasenath
2008-02-05 09:11 pm UTC (link)
It appears that Joyce is not talking to me anymore either. Never mind that I just wanted to know how well they had settled into their new home and pointed out some error on her website or etsy shop, I don't really now anymore. But she still has a piece of fabric and lace (maybe, if she hasn't chucked them out already) I had sent her for the next corset. Naturally, both were some of my special finds I can't just buy again and send to someone else :-(.
I do have the impression we are just not good enough anymore for her for one reason or the other.

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[info]super_loulou
2008-02-05 09:55 pm UTC (link)
I'm so sorry this has happened to you all. Didn't anyone get a positive PayPal dispute resolution? My boyfriend purchased a coat from eBay. It was delivered but was clearly the wrong size. We emailed them 6 times over 8 weeks to which they didn't reply so we filed the dispute. PayPal contacted them 3 times over about 2 weeks, which they ignored, and so PayPal refunded us in full on the grounds that their failure to respond was as good as an admission of guilt.

Surely if we got such a great and quick resolution when we HAD a coat, albeit the wrong size, it should be relatively simple to get corset refunds?

Lou

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(no subject) - [info]cnfessions, 2008-02-05 09:57 pm UTC
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[info]super_loulou
2008-02-05 10:05 pm UTC (link)
Oh wow that completely and utterly sucks! So it's more or less useless for prepayment of long-term orders? God, it's a good job Meschantes came through with my corsets last year or I'd have been out $523! They have a 6 week delivery target so even if they go a week over then they never arrive you're not covered? That's shocking.

Can't you go through the credit card company direct? Like when a holiday firm goes out of business but you get your money refunded because it's their liability not yours? Just trying to come up with solutions for you poor ladies :(

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