RIUM+ ([info]riumplus) wrote in [info]computer_help,
@ 2008-03-27 11:56:00
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Google isn't very helpful when you don't actually know the name of what you want :P

I'm running XP Pro on multiple computers on a home network. There's basically a 'family' email account as well as personal email accounts, and I'd like to be able to access the family email account on multiple computers but only download it once, if that makes sense.

Here's the current set up: I have my own domain name, with the MX record pointed to Gmail. I am currently fetching my mail from Gmail via POP3, using Thunderbird. We receive a lot of large email attachments in this account (3.5GB last year), so I only want to download them from Gmail once, rather than once per computer. I want to be able to send these emails to multiple copies of Thunderbird on different computers on my network. And also I'd like for the 'sent' folder to be somehow shared between the computers as well, so any email I send from one computer can be read from another. I'd do it by using Portable Thunderbird accessible through a network drive, but then I can only have one copy of Thunderbird open at a time on the network, and that's a pain if I forget to close it on one computer or two people want to check it at once.


Is there anything that does this, and what kind of thing is it called? Can it be done without changing away from Thunderbird or do I have to use a different mail client, as I don't want to have to re-train my parents on another email client? Any FOSS solutions as I'm broke and like to be legal when I can? :)


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[info]jasoncrowley
2008-03-27 06:25 am UTC (link)
Sounds like you want to setup a client interface to webmail that can be accesses via multiple terminals.

Any reason your using local mail storage applications rather than gmails web interface to begin with? If remembering passwords is a problem there are solutions out there that are secure and will populate the password when they open the page.

Another option is to run an email server locally, that would grab the items from gmail, then have a simple web interface that the household members would have access too, but that sounds bulky and tedious over just using gmails existing interface. SquirrelMail would be one such option, and it does handle IMAP and POP3.

Here are some steps:
http://sudhaker.com/2008/02/gmail-imap-squirrelmail/

Having one central space to keep the mail is far more elegant than re-hosting that data across multiple locations, and it takes care of the problem with everyone seeing the sent box (as its all at one location accessible via webpage)

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[info]riumplus
2008-03-27 07:43 am UTC (link)
I'm using local storage instead of the web-based storage system because I have to refer to the emails/their attachments more than once, and as I said, they're very large and with Australian's bad download caps I can't afford to download them repeatedly. Thus IMAP to a Gmail account wouldn't really work, nor would just using their web-based interface (I used to use my webhost's dinky email service but I switched to Gmail just so I could keep another backup copy in Gmail's inbox). And I'd prefer to keep to Thunderbird as well - it took me many months to train my parents on how to use Thunderbird so I'd hate to have to train them on something else. I also don't completely trust any online provider to retain all my emails and not all of a sudden delete them, so I like having a copy stored locally (and a backup of the local copy as well. Can you tell I've had data loss a few too many times that I now take backups seriously? :P ).

Hmm. Is there some server program I can use that just downloads them via POP3 from Gmail, and then I can still use Thunderbird to connect to that server via IMAP from multiple clients so the data is only transferred multiple times over the home network instead of the Internet? Would that work? (Something Windows-based at least, because as much as all my friends and relatives might think otherwise, I've never even done more in Linux than put in a LiveCD and played around for a few minutes before I rebooted back to Windows from being hopelessly lost)

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[info]jasoncrowley
2008-03-27 08:24 am UTC (link)
Citadel would work as a POP client to GMail, then allow Thunderbird client to have access to it from there... but its 'nix based without a windows port that I know of. You can run it under VMWARE or Debian/Ubuntu.

http://www.citadel.org/doku.php
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/installation:easyinstall:easyinstall

Citadel has fetchmail built in, so it can be set up to grab emails from the original source at set times to be re-grabbed by the clients at your leisure.

Citadel also has a nice AJAX based web client interface, along with other features to make it a well rounded mail server option.

The biggest drawback of using multiple thunderbird installs is that you wouldn't be sharing the 'sent' folder in any way that I know of...

Perhaps someone else has a solution there...

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[info]jasoncrowley
2008-03-27 08:35 am UTC (link)
Oh and sorry, I'm a nix guy by trade. I only use windows when I have no other choice.

Its just my opinion, but normally the words Windows, Server, Email, and Free don't mix. :P

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[info]jasoncrowley
2008-03-27 08:46 am UTC (link)
Doing a little research, Mailtraq might do what your looking for on windows all over POP http://www.mailtraq.com

Its not free (5 users is $229)... but it does have a 30 day trial.

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