fistsofking ([info]fistsofking) wrote in [info]comic_creators,
@ 2004-10-07 00:48:00
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Current mood: anxious

heres some of my recent work.
these are some of my characters that i have made recently. im in a gothis phase cause i have a story line bouncing around in my head that just need fleshing out. anyway








that should do it for now.


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[info]artfemme
2004-10-07 01:42 am UTC (link)
Very nifty! Number one, is my favorite. Will the story be a regular 22pg book, or serial, smaller stories, or graphic novel in length?
~Rebecca

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yeah me too...
[info]fistsofking
2004-10-07 02:54 pm UTC (link)
it is going to be a serial, time-release issue book, possible infinite like say X-Men...

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Pretty pretty.
[info]rachaelnoel
2004-10-07 05:54 am UTC (link)
Wow. Very lovely indeed. The feet in that first one are amazing.... And I love the clean linework you've got - especially in the wrinkles of the clothing and the shapes of light and dark, such as on the mary jane shoes.....

Very excellent.

The feet on the last image seem slightly out of proportion, however. I realise that the one leg is in the forgraound, but the foot in the backround should perhaps be lightly larger, no?

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Re: thanx
[info]fistsofking
2004-10-07 02:51 pm UTC (link)
i happen to like feet so i do them very well. actually all anatomy is natural to me.
"The feet on the last image seem slightly out of proportion, however. I realise that the one leg is in the forgraound, but the foot in the backround should perhaps be lightly larger, no?"

the effect you are refering to either directly or by accident is called forshortening. you have it back wards my dear. things in the background appear smaller than those in the foreground. this is what i have done but i also made it even more difficult to really see this process by turning the forground foot directly at the camera. this is extreme-forshortening so it is actually larger than the background foot...its just an optical illusion. thanx for being critical though, shows you have the artistic eye.

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um.....
[info]rachaelnoel
2004-10-07 03:13 pm UTC (link)
No no no. I suppose I wasn't clear. Let me rephrase:

"The feet on the last image seem slightly out of proportion, however. Even taking into account that due to forshortening the one leg will naturally be larger..... the one leg in the backround still seems a bit too small, no?"

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Re: um.....
[info]fistsofking
2004-10-08 09:58 am UTC (link)
well, in looking where the feet are planted, there really is very little difference between the legs at all. they are no more than 3-4 inches off center line so theres not going to be to much difference. they look right to me.

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Re: um.....
[info]fistsofking
2004-10-08 11:36 am UTC (link)
ok. look the drawings i put on this community are indeed inked and it is clear that they are not unrefined.they are finished in that they are only character bio sheets that i use in my portfolio and do not need to have fully rendered backgrounds and the like. i welcome due critique but not snide remarks such as the one so blaitantly and disrespectfully posted prior to this exchange. such immaturity should not be tolerated but, being an artist, i know that so many of us are still children and can not fully comprehend the scope of critical thinking.
another immaturity i rather detest is the loathsome backslider or those who engage in a friendly exchange of ideas and/or professional crit assistance only to turn around and stab one in the back the instant someone offers up a dose of unwelcomed insult and piety.
i greatly appreciate crit and also enjoy giving advice but i will not entertain such insolence and childish banter. thankyou.

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[info]himynameisjamie
2004-10-07 03:03 pm UTC (link)
do you have any inked work? maybe something with a back/foreground? you do some very nice pin-ups but if this is going to be a story will it be of these people just posing like that? you know what i mean?

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yes...
[info]fistsofking
2004-10-07 08:27 pm UTC (link)
im gonna make story of people just posing deal with it.
these are my portfolio character bios sheets!! they will eventually be in a story
not the brightest crayon in the box then are we?

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Re: yes...
[info]himynameisjamie
2004-10-08 07:01 am UTC (link)
you are not a very happy man are you?

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Re: yes...
[info]fistsofking
2004-10-08 09:51 am UTC (link)
no not with ppl like you asking stupid questions.
if you cant think of anything nice to say then just shrink back into your corner and leave everyone else alone.

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boy in da corner
[info]rachaelnoel
2004-10-08 10:19 am UTC (link)
Funny, I was under the impression that posting artwork up publicly at this community, especially unrefined pencil sketches, especially with what looks like basic character design as opposed to pictures-with-words (ie. comics), would be an action that would welcome critique. Otherwise, why show an unfinished peice? Are you only showing your artwork for praise and adulation?

if you cant think of anything nice to say then just shrink back into your corner and leave everyone else alone.

I suppose you are.

Perhaps there is a Rob Liefield fan community that would better suit your needs?

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Re: boy in da corner
[info]himynameisjamie
2004-10-08 10:26 am UTC (link)
haha!

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Re: boy in da corner
[info]fistsofking
2004-10-08 11:33 am UTC (link)
ok. look the drawings i put on this community are indeed inked and it is clear that they are not unrefined.they are finished in that they are only character bio sheets that i use in my portfolio and do not need to have fully rendered backgrounds and the like. i welcome due critique but not snide remarks such as the one so blaitantly and disrespectfully posted prior to this exchange. such immaturity should not be tolerated but, being an artist, i know that so many of us are still children and can not fully comprehend the scope of critical thinking.
another immaturity i rather detest is the loathsome backslider or those who engage in a friendly exchange of ideas and/or professional crit assistance only to turn around and stab one in the back the instant someone offers up a dose of unwelcomed insult and piety.
i greatly appreciate crit and also enjoy giving advice but i will not entertain such insolence and childish banter. thankyou.

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Re: boy in da corner
[info]himynameisjamie
2004-10-08 11:56 am UTC (link)
first of all no made a snide remark. i asked if you had a piece of art that was more fleshed out. something with a background or even a few panel to panel strips or something. you need to calm down and learn to take a "crit". i never insulted you. no one did. rachaelnoel stated that one foot looked a bit off and you went off on a tirade. calm down skippy.

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[info]rachaelnoel
2004-10-08 02:14 pm UTC (link)
"the drawings i put on this community are indeed inked"

Really? Did you use erasable pen? Because that would explain the shading and the eraser marks.

"and it is clear that they are not unrefined.they are finished in that they are only character bio sheets that i use in my portfolio and do not need to have fully rendered backgrounds and the like."

I must admit that I'm rather shocked to hear that you'd use a pencil erasable pen line drawing for your portfolio. The only time I've ever been aware of line drawings being included in portfolios was in order to showcase skills at panel work, not for character bio sheets. I've actually never heard of "character bio sheets" being used in a portfolio, and if they were, certainly those drawings wouldn't have the character's stats scribbled on the same page.

"i welcome due critique but not snide remarks such as the one so blaitantly and disrespectfully posted prior to this exchange"

There were no snide remarks, until you lashed out with your crayon comment, and then continued to elevate the situation. It is for this reason that I became, as you eloquently put, a "loathsome backslider". It is because I find your behavior to be overty reactionary and attacking, and it is because your words have been utterly lacking in simple kindness or courtesy that I felt you were undeserving of mine in return.

Statements such as: "i know that so many of us are still children and can not fully comprehend the scope of critical thinking" is probably not the best way to rectify the situation.




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Re: boy in da corner
[info]himynameisjamie
2004-10-08 09:06 pm UTC (link)

hey more updates for you mr. fistsofking guy. here is a letter from dean trippe...




"Shut the hell up. You have SOME potential, but you will NEVER be a single bit better until you stop sounding like an ass, and arguing with criticism. NEVER ARGUE WITH CRITICISM. Rule number one, kid.



It just makes you sound so dumb. The foot in the background is obviously too small, but that's not the least of your anatomical problems. Quit drawing from bad comic books and go outside. Jeez. The person who pointed out the small criticism was very nice about it. Nicer than you deserve considering your attitude. This stuff is early high-school level at best.



'Blah, blah, blah, actually I draw feet great, you suck, shut up.' That's what you sound like. Grow the hell up, kid. Look up the word "insolent" if you want to know how you sound. Now back to NOT wasting my time..."

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Re: boy in da corner
[info]gothwitch
2004-10-08 11:49 pm UTC (link)
I agree, fistofking needs to learn how to take criticism and just grow from it. These comments were never meant as personal attacks, which fistofking is doing, and he must realize that this IS a public forum.

These "bio" sheets need some more work and they are a begining, so keep on trying. Never, ever put poses into your portfolio, most editiors won't even look at a portfolio if there is anything like this included. I know, i've assisted in the industry for a while now and have my own portfolio that I have shown manyyyyyyy times and have learned a lot from the comments and criticism given to me.

And fistofking must realize that to treat someone, wiether you know them or not, poorly is to treat yourself even worse. Karma will come back and kick you in the rump if you are not careful.

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[info]tdhartist
2004-10-08 11:43 pm UTC (link)
How's this...

Your anatomny is off. You should really look into Life Drawing and study the human form. It doesn't have to be perfect because even the best at it can fake it, but yours is off in many places.

You also need to work on the folds of clothing, too much is bad, too little isn't enough and you have overkill in some spots and not enough in others. Throw a jacket or blanket over a chair. Look at the folds. And when you're doing this... play with lighting.

Your work is decent, but needs work before considering jumping out there and trying to sell a book. Show us some backgrounds and storytelling... give us a reason to think you're better then this.

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[info]rudeboyzach
2004-10-10 05:25 pm UTC (link)
Amen.

I agree with everything said by tdhartist.

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