Khlela ([info]khlela) wrote in [info]cockatiels,
@ 2005-01-10 20:09:00
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Current mood: confused

Is it mating season or what?
So I have a total of 5 tiels, 3 in one large cage and 2 in a medium cage, in the medium cage there is a male (Max) and a Female (Lily)

It is definatly mating season for Lily, She wont stop her mating call, lifting her tale and what not, then Max will run up to her but instead of getting on top of her to try and mate, he attacks her, he will bite her feet and wings, not hard but what seems to be enough to try and get her to stop, she will run around the cage stopping at every chance she gets to continue trying to mate as Max follows. Lily was our first tiel she is about 3 years old now, and this is the largest mating run she has tried. She has always attached herself to my Fiancé so she will initially act as though she is trying to get him to mate, yet when Max runs up she will approach him as though she would mate with him. We are confused because they have done basic, (unsuccessful) courting, they will sleep next to each other but for most part they are always nipping at each other and more than just lover's quarrels but then they are very protective of each other.

Max has grown attached to me but has never attempted any courting with me. He will sing to Lily and chase her around, if you remove one and bring them into another room they will call to each other until reunited.

Lily has proceeded to nest in the bottom corner of their cage, it is a little darker and is surrounded by some branches but is still really open, she has cleared out all debris and will sit there with her tail up and her vent pressed into the corner and stay there. If she notices you looking at her while she is down there she will start screaming, if Max gets close she will run out, hiss and bite at him to get him away. She has not laid any eggs yet but this is the first day she has really made a nest up. From her actions I would not be surprised to see one soon. Max is about 2 ad 1/2 years old and have been roommates for about 2 years now.

So when it comes down to it, it seems like Max sees Lily as a mate but does not want to mate with her, Lily does not really see Max as a mate but when in mating position she is willing to let him. We have tried separating them but because all our birds our in open cages Max will just fly back over to Lily's cage.

Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated. I am not quite sure what to do, if I should continue to try and keep them separate, how long it will take to pass, or what now. Thank you!

Michelle,

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Max watching very closely as Lily gives me a kiss.




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[info]ltdead
2005-01-10 09:20 pm UTC (link)
Limiting the amount of light Lily gets to less then 12 hours a day can help break the hormonal cycle. You can also try rearranging the cage. Should help!

I wouldn`t worry about seperating them. That sort of bickering, and yet constantly screaming for their friend to be returned if they`re seperated, sort of relationship is extremely normal in cockatiels. I had some birds that were like that and I just left them together to let them sort if out. As long as both birds are of the same species such relationships are usually not a problem.

If you end up with any eggs you might consider freezing them for 24 hours or replacing them with dummy eggs. Just because you haven`t seen them mate doesn`t mean that they haven`t.

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[info]teechers_pet
2005-01-11 03:50 am UTC (link)
I had two parrotlets that acted very similar to how your 'tiels are acting right now. Funny isn't it? You have two very adorable birdies *winks*

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[info]stephaniejane2
2005-01-11 05:16 am UTC (link)
Hi -- first time poster here -- Your tiel situation sounds like business as usual to me -- we also have 5 tiels, and our two that are currently mating (Groucho and Lemonhead) are more unsuccessful than not in their mating attempts. They do like to sleep near each other, and will sometimes preen each other. However, the mating is less than successful because I think they lose patience, and like you say, end up nipping at each other. I just think tiels are so silly and have little patience with each other.

Groucho and Lemonhead began mating attempts about 6 months ago. Two months ago, we gave them a nestbox and Lemonhead eventually laid 5 eggs, which they diligently sat on, and after a full incubation period had passed, we removed the eggs and found them all to be unfertilized. We're not sure if they never successfully mated or if the timing was off or if it has something to do with Groucho's age (15) affecting his fertility. Has anyone ever heard of anything like that? Lemonhead is only three years old.

Groucho's previous mate Bump, who recently passed (old age) had no trouble mating -- 5-10 minute mating sessions -- with no biting, no balance problems, nothing. But that's what 10+ years of practice nets you.

It sounds to me like Max and Lily are a bonded pair and they both need to mature and practice with each other in order to successfully mate. The question is: Do you want them to successfully breed? If you do, I would suggest providing a real nest or nest box.

Good luck!

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