tynyx ([info]tynyx) wrote in [info]clean_n_sober,
@ 2008-04-28 14:01:00
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If this is inappropriate please delete...I just needed a place to unload where people are able to relate

Can I just express how eternally frustrated by the act of being clean I am?

More than ever its feeling like a forced chore to me and I dont know why.

I realize now I never even wanted any part of recovery even the last time I went through treatment and maybe this is why I refuse to go to any sort of NA or drug counsilling.

This was forced on me. I just got into a huge argument with my mom (I live in the basement suite of my parents place beacuse I was saving up for rent having just graduated film school) because I told her about a shit load of oxycontin among other things and I confessed to having been loading up on them all of last year (which she didnt know and if she did she turned a blind eye) and she pretty much hit the roof...which in a way I expected it but at the same time not so much.

She went on about how selfish I was to have been throwing away all my hard work by taking fist fulls of pills. She asked me if the pills were all I had done...and I sheepishly admitted that no, I had used heroin a handful of times last year as well and just barely got lucky enough to not continue doing it.

She walked out of the room after that one.

To this day she does not understand that I got clean for OTHER people.

I have never once in my life gotten clean for myself...its always been because somoene has said to me

"You have to get your act together" "You cant keep doing this to yourself" "You need to let us help you" blah blah fucking blah.

Never once have I kicked because I wanted to.

NOT EVER.

Sure maybe deep down I want to finally be rid of it and of course I want to be healthy for my son who will be born in less than two months (too be clear I haven't used anything since I found out I was pregnant)

Its awful hard to do though with that monkey on your back.

while I proclaim to be sick of having this shit control me time and time again, I dont think I am really...and thats dangerous.

This is an uphill climb and I am constantly taking one step forward and two steps back

I dont know why this feeling has gotten so much worse lately.

I really would like to know though.

More so I want to know how you want to be clean because as I said...I dont think I've ever really wanted any part of this and its like I'm stuck in this place and I can't breath and its frustrating because I want to want to say clean but something is not letting me want it.

I just want that numbness I want to not fucking care any more...I'm so tired of fucking caring...its exhausting.



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[info]kasheesty
2008-04-28 11:58 pm UTC (link)


I got sick & tired of being sick & tired.

Enough so that I became willing to do anything.

Without conditions.

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[info]arachnerd
2008-04-29 01:24 am UTC (link)
i understand where you're coming from when you say you got clean for other people. i never did that, though (it was alcohol for me, though - my pill taking never got bad and was easy to stop). it wasn't enough for anyone else to want it for me. hell, even a hospital visit wasn't enough for me to quit permanently. i eventually just got tired of waking up and being disgusted with myself for my behavior, and tired of giving in and feeling ashamed of myself later. i still feel like giving in every now and then, some times more than others, but i haven't so far. it's been 8 months.

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[info]littleeva
2008-04-29 01:54 pm UTC (link)
I got sick of waking up every morning throwing up and looking like I was 45 when I was only 27. It's not easy to actually feel and live life, but I would rather live this way and feel the pain than be numb and not know what's going on because when you numb the pain you also numb the good stuff.

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[info]jnd827
2008-04-29 03:37 pm UTC (link)
You can’t do it for anyone other than yourself, and trust me I tried. I went through detox several times, either court ordered or to please someone else, and every single time I ended up using again.

I know from personal experience that when I tried to stay clean for other people (and I say ‘tried’ because I never could), I was just as miserable as I was when I was using, and on top of that, I resented the hell out of whoever it was that I was trying to stop for. It made me hate them for trying to ‘rule my life’, and it made me hate myself because I was too weak to stop. But eventually I hit a bottom, and began to want sobriety for MYSELF. And I’m really grateful for that.

For now, at least you’re being honest enough to not kid yourself into thinking it’s what you want. Obviously it would probably be the best thing for you, but if you’re not ready, you’re not ready, and nothing anyone can say or do is going to force you to be so. I hope eventually you do want to stop for yourself, and in the meantime, I commend you for not using while pregnant. That’s not an easy thing to do, but you put your unborn child first, and that says a lot about you.

Best of luck. It really is a better life on this side. It took me a long time to figure that out, and I fought it EVERY step of the way, but for me it’s been proven to be true.

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[info]flower07
2008-04-29 04:19 pm UTC (link)
tynyx, welcome. you can do what you want. Some people go to meetings cause they have to. They are ordered by the courts or parole. Months or years pass and the same people achieve sobrity. They decide they want to stay

.Everything in sobrity is a suggestion. You don't have to do anything. For me I try everyday to be honest with myself. I don't have to be perfect. I go to A.A. . Alcohol is mentioned in the first step. Drinking got me into the rooms of A.A. If I don't drink I can face and deal with anything( I hope). I got some doozie's too. Thank you.

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[info]orchidisis321
2008-04-30 07:27 pm UTC (link)
you can add me if you want.i just got out of a residential treatment place after over 6 weeks there.i put myself in tho and that is what made the difference.I'm expecting a son in august.i was drinking and popping pills while pregnant luckily i only dranl for 1 1/2 months (STILL SHITTY) and not as heavy as usual and the baby looks ok so far by the ultrasounds and blood work, but it wasent why i wanted to get sober.i decided i was tired.sick of the drama and the misery.of course you have that sober to an extent but you can handle it better straight.i dont know.i been using since i was 14 ,i'm 28 now.1/2 my life wasted and yeah it sucks being sober sometimes,but its way better than i thought it would be.

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[info]witchtownbum
2008-05-08 05:53 pm UTC (link)
was the treatment center you went to for free? That is so awesome. I've known a lot of ex-junkies who quit for good when they had a baby. It's definitely proved to make a world of difference. goodluck.

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[info]witchtownbum
2008-05-08 05:51 pm UTC (link)
nobody who's an addict wants to quit unless they've hit rock bottom. That's why. As long as you have a place to rest your head, and all of your basic needs are met such as having food in the fridge, and bathroom, and a place to rest your head, you'll always be fantasizing about it. You have to have reached a point where, you lost 6 jobs and withdrew your bank account 200 bucks, have no credentials to get any good jobs, or selling your ass on the streets and wanting to kill yourself before you ever really want to quit for yourself. It is sadly the truth. I had no where to go and no money when I had to quit so I would either have to quit for my bf or get clean. And even now, even though I'm not quite as bummed out and I'm doing well, in the back of my mind dope is just on the back burner. Get some suboxones if you need em and startmakin some sober friends.

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[info]tynyx
2008-05-08 06:02 pm UTC (link)
i've hit a couple of rock bottoms though thats the problem...or they would seem to have been anyways.

my boyfriend (also a junkie) OD'ed and died right in front of me should have really been the lowest of a low but that just made me use more. I've also been on the street (though i never sold myself for it) so i dont know what else could constitute rock bottom.

it just seems like for me its like a forbidden and abusive love affair...no matter how bad it gets it just does not want to let go.

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