Bex ([info]imyournobody) wrote in [info]chemicalromance,
@ 2007-03-18 16:28:00
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short time lurker, first time poster...
I come with a scan from The Culture, a section of The Sunday Times newspaper.

Page 1
The headline is "They're a girl thing" but part of that got chopped off because the page is bigger than the scanner :/

Page 2



Just thought Id share.

And see who can spot the mistake...

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[info]skyline3way
2007-03-18 04:57 pm UTC (link)
Is this the NYT?

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[info]imyournobody
2007-03-18 04:58 pm UTC (link)
no its an English paper

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(no subject) - [info]skyline3way, 2007-03-18 05:01 pm UTC

[info]bigdrag
2007-03-18 05:06 pm UTC (link)
this was kind of a silly article

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[info]imyournobody
2007-03-18 05:09 pm UTC (link)
in what way?

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(no subject) - [info]bigdrag, 2007-03-18 05:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]whatihopedfor, 2007-03-18 06:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wertica_, 2007-03-18 06:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bigdrag, 2007-03-18 08:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cadette, 2007-03-18 10:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]periculosa, 2007-03-18 07:58 pm UTC

[info]orangeysky
2007-03-18 05:13 pm UTC (link)
Lol. I'm not afraid to walk this EARTH alone.

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[info]imyournobody
2007-03-18 06:09 pm UTC (link)
lol. I know, right 0_o

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[info]wertica_
2007-03-18 06:35 pm UTC (link)
lmao i didnt even notice that hahaha

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(no subject) - [info]orangeysky, 2007-03-18 09:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wertica_, 2007-03-19 12:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]orangeysky, 2007-03-19 01:10 pm UTC

[info]elizabethisboss
2007-03-18 05:23 pm UTC (link)
Pft. "Not very good looking."

Author, meet Frank.

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[info]julietofjudas
2007-03-18 05:54 pm UTC (link)
Author, meet any of the boys... She obviously didn't look close enough (must have left her glasses at home)haha.

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(no subject) - [info]emotecontrol, 2007-03-18 07:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]julietofjudas, 2007-03-18 07:22 pm UTC

[info]starsandskulls
2007-03-18 05:23 pm UTC (link)
They're a girl thing?

lmao.

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[info]themetunes
2007-03-18 05:59 pm UTC (link)
Hahaha, I LOVE The Sunday Times, and I am reading the article right now, slightly inaccurate, but my parents are like "well, if The Times likes 'em, they MUST be good!" And they like Mikey. Aww.
Also, didn't they get Gerards age wrong? Isn;t he 27? Or have I made a mistake there?

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[info]themetunes
2007-03-18 06:03 pm UTC (link)
LOL "Pure DeNiro"??? WTF?????? O, The Sunday Times, u slay meh.

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(no subject) - [info]imyournobody, 2007-03-18 06:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]themetunes, 2007-03-18 06:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]imyournobody, 2007-03-18 06:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kyosama7485, 2007-03-18 06:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]themetunes, 2007-03-18 06:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]myorangecrush, 2007-03-18 06:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]themetunes, 2007-03-19 03:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mothpie, 2007-03-19 03:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkpopsicle37, 2007-03-18 07:17 pm UTC

[info]sisterspooky
2007-03-18 06:58 pm UTC (link)
sorry to be really fussy but does it say who wrote the article...the writer rather than just the paper? was just wondering? thanks for posting BTW

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[info]imyournobody
2007-03-18 07:12 pm UTC (link)
It was written by Robert Sandall.
No problem :D

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(no subject) - [info]sisterspooky, 2007-03-18 07:13 pm UTC

[info]cadette
2007-03-18 07:37 pm UTC (link)
This was an amazing article, if only in concept as the execution itself was a bit wobbly. I'm also taken with the fact that the majority of their fanbase is female and I can't help but viewing the band through a feminist lens. I think that there's a lot to find there even beyond Gerard's verbal attempts to raise girls' self-esteem and break down the negative influence of the media on body image. They're very female-friendly and accessible to young women and it's fantastic to see someone try to tackle exactly why that is. Thank you for posting this!

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[info]acciomcr
2007-03-18 08:39 pm UTC (link)
Hmm. I actually like this article. It starts out "WTF?!" but then when It ends, it says "good taste". You can't argue that many of MCR's fans are 16 but it's not a teeny bop thing, it's a musical thing. And i agree with the above, MCR is very girl friendly, they don't objectify women, they empower us if anything. And of course looks are undeniable *cough* I don't know, i thought it was interesting how they pulled it all together into a "yaay we like mcr" article from a "girl thing" article.

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[info]omg_glomp
2007-03-19 03:00 pm UTC (link)
Yeah. Agreed. Those things don't really walk hand in hand. Like, when it started going on about the boyband-ish fans I thought for sure she would say they were overrated or something.

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[info]slam_girl
2007-03-18 08:43 pm UTC (link)
"Pure DeNiro" That's a good one but I wouldn't go that far, lol. I do agree a bit though, they aren't exactly pretty but they are cute in their own little way^^ I never used to notice that they had so many girl fans but it seems like that's being pointed out quite a bit now, I suppose they are accessible to females. Dangerous cult on the outside, lovable cheeky monkeys on the inside. XD

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[info]moondarri
2007-03-18 09:02 pm UTC (link)
I'm torn. Yes, the article hit a lot of true points - there are a lot of female MCR fans, and yet... I don't think they quite got it. The reason why MCR attracts the fanbase it does. And there was a little too much comparison to boybands, implying that's the sort of thing girls go for.

It might have been more interesting for them to explore why there's this... generation of fangirls. Girls getting into rock music, and what it is about those bands that appeal.

And... maybe it's just me, but I didn't like the vaguest sexist generalisation in there. About rock music not being for girls. True, a lot of rock = misogynistic assholes, but I don't think it's fair to say that ye olde Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin and other such old-school never appealed, or never could appeal to a female fanbase.

Anyway. I'm not entirely sure in which direction I'm headed here, so I'll just stop. xD

(Someone should write an article with a feminist perspective on rock music today and make particular mention of MCR and their pro-women message. Something that, really, makes me love them most of all.)

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[info]cadette
2007-03-18 09:34 pm UTC (link)
Oooh ♥. Yes. The thing that I really liked about the article was that it attempted to explore the whole female-friendly angle of MCR, even if it did get a little off track and make some generalizations (hello! I am a HUGE Pink Floyd fan!). It still attempted to write about that aspect in a semi-thoughtful way when other journalists ignore it.

I especially agree with what you said at the end about exploring rock with a feminist perspective because I particularly think about that kind of thing all the time. For instance, in regards to MCR, if we analyze what's happening in this one particular fanbase we might be able to get a clearer picture of what is going on with this generation of girls today. Why are they attracted to this music, this subculture, this aesthetic? Additionally, if female perspectives on music interest you, you might want to check out Pretty in Punk: Girls' Gender Resistance in a Boys' Subculture, which I plan to read soon. :)

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[info]mr_sheen666
2007-03-18 09:47 pm UTC (link)
Ok yes, apart from the female refrence... probably the best mcr article to ever come out of a british newspaper!

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[info]m_h_p
2007-03-18 10:50 pm UTC (link)
Well, The Sunday Times wins at life anyway. Possibly the only newspaper around without an agenda (apart from it being owned by Rupert Fucking Murdoch, but we'll ignore that).

I think the article did really well in presenting what a superficial view of the band must be like to someone seeing them for the first time, but then actually cutting to the chase and focusing on the music.

There was also an excellent review of the new production of A Midsummer Night's Dream in the paper, and a really amazing one of Equus a couple of weeks back.

When I grow up, I want to write for The Sunday Times <3

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[info]themetunes
2007-03-19 03:41 pm UTC (link)
I want to write for The Times too! I want to be trained up by Caitlin Moran and Pete Paphides! <3

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[info]tractable
2007-03-18 11:44 pm UTC (link)
ha. that reporter should meet my boyfriend then if she thinks theyre just a girl thing.

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[info]decimatedreams
2007-03-19 12:22 am UTC (link)
Not attractive? :O
DeNiro? I'm sorry, but I barely hear an accent on Gerard. Actually, I don't really heard them on anyone, aside from the occasional slip-up on Frank's part. Maybe I'm just used to accents like his, and it'd be more prominent to someone from a foreign country... but no.

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[info]omg_glomp
2007-03-19 03:06 pm UTC (link)
Well. I'm from a foreign country, and I never paid much attention to the fact that their accents were different either.. Like, different from the accents I see on tv-shows and whatnot xD

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[info]mothpie
2007-03-19 03:57 am UTC (link)
I think My Chem are so female friendly because they have such a huge respect for the female species, no matter what age.
They must have been raised right.

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[info]zanybrains
2007-03-19 05:56 am UTC (link)
I agree. Some of the quotes Gerard has said about women has given me so much more respect for them.

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(no subject) - [info]mothpie, 2007-03-19 06:06 am UTC

[info]ourcarscollide
2007-03-19 08:10 am UTC (link)
I suppose it's true that the median age is about 16 for MCR fans. I remember being in line for their concert in January, and at 23yo (and my friend who was with me, 22) felt like we were the oldest people in line :P I'm all for it though. Better than 16yo's listening to mindless drivel and growing up thinking it's okay to refer to women as "bitches n hoes".

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[info]vagary
2007-03-19 02:47 pm UTC (link)
ooh, you beat me to it! fantastic article, thanks for scanning it. :)

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[info]xdontlabel_me
2007-03-19 07:14 pm UTC (link)
Loooollzzz Culture magazine srsly wins at life. I squeed when I found this and made my dad rip it out.

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[info]innovade
2007-03-19 10:40 pm UTC (link)
hey!
nice icon :) ("Gerard-hand") i happen to be the photographer who took that picutre and would like to know if you would give me credit as it as well

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[info]imyournobody
2007-03-20 04:53 pm UTC (link)
oh, sure. no problem :)

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[info]mysti112
2007-03-20 02:32 pm UTC (link)
Good Lord, a well-written article! Who knew such things still existed in the culture pages of major newspapers?

Although it is "world" and not "earth" in the line from Famous Last Words, and Frank could never, ever be accused of being not pretty. The others could be considered an acquired taste, but Frank is undeniably beautiful.

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