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We are Christians who have chosen, for whatever reason, not to have children. We are satisfied, even happy with this choice to remain childfree. We are not childless. We have no desire for children in our lives. We will not "change our minds when we're older". We don't believe that it's "different when they're your own." Nor do we believe that we are living in sin for choosing to not have children. We are Childfree. We are diverse. And we believe in Jesus Christ.
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Jun. 25th, 2009 @ 03:52 am funny, but true...
Excuse the spelling and grammar errors, they're not mine...

song chart memes
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Though granted, sometimes people aren't trying to argue against your childfreedom--they just don't know about it, and say presumptuous things like this. Anyone have an experience to share? I'll go first:

A couple of weeks ago, my fiancé and I went to the dedication for the child that my cousins just adopted. (See, we don't hate kids! Lol.) We ran into an old family friend that hadn't met my fiancé yet, and we ended up in the buffet line next to her. After telling us that we looked like brother and sister (yeah, we kinda do...), she laughed and said, "Well, I guess you know what your kids will look like!"

We were both silent, not sure how to even go about explaining--sigh, hyper-religious people of the marriage-is-for-babymakin'-strain, and not wanting to make a scene at someone else's major life event--and before we could come up with anything we ended up getting split up to go through different lines.

Cross-posted to [info]pcos_childfree
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[info]rena_librarian:
Mar. 27th, 2009 @ 01:19 am an interesting incident from a job interview
Adapted (for privacy) from a personal journal entry, and x-posted to [info]pcos_childfree 
For context: after a shamefully long period of unemployment, I was finally hired today. =D

...I did interview for another job on the same day, and I kind of hoped that I'd get that one instead, but it didn't work out like that. Oh well. Interesting thing that happened at the interview, though--the woman asked me if I had any kids. This right after saying that the job was flexible for those who had kids at home, needed to call in because they were sick, etc. Of course I told her no, thinking that that would be an asset to me since my not having kids means they're not going to detract from work. I was going to tack on that I wasn't married yet--which is not the point, since my fiancé aren't having kids even when we are married, but most of the time when a stranger is getting too nosy, this will quiet them down, because they're not going to encourage you to go into single motherhood. =P But this woman was one of those that won't let you get in a word edgewise (this is important)--other than asking when I could expect to hear from her, and how much it paid, I don't think I got to say anything more than two or three words at a time.

Well, anyway, I must have been a bit too enthusiastic for her tastes, because she was like, "Well, you're saying that like you don't want them!" Which I don't, but I couldn't interject that. She then went on to say that her own daughter (who, I gathered, is around my age or a bit younger) is still in the "puppy stage"--"She thinks it'll be easier to have a puppy than kids!"

I just kind of laughed that off, but really, if a dog is more work than a kid...YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG. I don't know if you're neglecting your kid or spoiling your dog rotten, but either way something is warped! So the daughter is Actually Quite Right in thinking that, IMHO.

Also, I was kind of shocked that she carried on with it--I can understand the question as it is relevant to a job (yes, I know, technically it's not legal to ask about an employee's personal life, etc etc, but I don't mind being asked to an extent, if it actually pertains to availability or whatnot), but to comment on a HIGHLY personal choice--assuming I've made the typical one, assuming I CAN make the typical one and don't have fertility issuse--IDK. It just irked me. And then calling it a stage like I'll grow out of it!! >_<

Earlier today I ran across an LJ entry by a friend of mine. She was talking about starting a petition to make "Why are you single?" one of the socially unacceptable questions, like asking a stranger when she's due, or asking a woman her age. I think any questions about when a couple is going to have kids should be off-limits as well. She was talking about how the "why are you single?" thing is usually well-meant ("You're so cool/funny/awesome, I can't understand why no man has snatched you up!"), but it makes the person being asked think over the last painful breakup, or think that maybe there IS something wrong with them, etc. "When are you having kids?" is similar in that the asker has no idea about the circumstances--the person being asked may want them and not be able to have them, and be touchy about it, or maybe the couple is waiting to be in a better place financially, or like me, may just plain not think kids are the be-all, end-all of human existence. The thing of it is, it's not really their business why, and besides that, they're running the risk of bringing up a very painful subject in some cases. No, we don't have any kids. Period. That should be the end of it.

~*~

So...

A) Does this qualify as a bingo? If so it'll be the first one I've gotten from a stranger!
B) Would you sign that petition? ^_-
C) Any other thoughts? I would really like to see more discussion going on around here!!
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faramir eowyn love
[info]rena_librarian:
Mar. 13th, 2009 @ 11:43 am Curiosity gets to me.
I was wondering whether any of my fellow CF Christians are involved with the lives of children, despite not wanting any of their own.

I volunteer as the youth group advisor at my church, as well as singing in the contemporary praise band and serving as substitute Sunday School teacher. In the summer my husband and I both help out with Vacation Bible School. The general consensus is that it's a shame I don't have kids of my own because I'm so good with them. However, since I actually can't have kids, nobody bingos me about it.

Do any of the rest of you work with kids in some way? Teaching or volunteer work are the obvious possibilities, but I also mean just in terms of having personal relationships with nieces/nephews, godchildren, neighbor's kids, etc. Does this increase the likelihood of you getting bingoed? I'm pretty sure I'd be getting it if I didn't have the biological out (there are occasional mumblings of "you could adopt," but these are surprisingly few). I recently heard the bit about "you're so good with the youth group" again, and it got me thinking.
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[info]ladynorbert:
Mar. 6th, 2009 @ 11:37 am Hacker warning
Apologies to the mods; I was posting this to all the communities I personally moderate, and I thought it should be mentioned here too.

There is some malware/virus going around LJ hacking accounts for mods in large communities that posts an announcement with links that says they are closing the community. Then proceeding to do so.

If you see an announcement purporting to be from the mods that this or any other community you are in is shutting down:

1) DO NOT CLICK THE LINKS - THEY ARE MALWARE/VIRUSES
2) REPORT THE POST TO LJ ABUSE WITH THE FLAG BUTTON
3) LET THE MODS OF THE COMMUNITY KNOW ASAP
4) DID I SAY DON'T CLICK LINKS? DON'T CLICK THE LINKS!!

Please report it if you see this going on here or elsewhere and let those mods know. They seem to mainly be attacking extremely large communities, so we're probably safe, but I'm posting this just in case.

More info can be seen here: http://upstart-crow.livejournal.com/346623.html
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eowyn
[info]ladynorbert:
Feb. 23rd, 2009 @ 12:35 am Weekly Bible study -- on LJ!
Apologies to the mods if this isn't appropriate, but this is the only Christian community I belong to, so I thought some people here might be interested.

A friend of mine and I have started a community, [info]enlightenus, which is intended to provide a place for people to gather weekly to read the Bible together and discuss its contents. It's not meant for instruction necessarily, but a sharing of interpretations, questions, possible answers, and contemplations. Our first post went up today (well, technically yesterday) and covers the first three chapters of Genesis.

I do want to mention that the comm is open to people of any and all faiths, provided they're interested in learning more about the Judeo-Christian Bible and belief systems. Feel free to bring your friends. :)
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eowyn
[info]ladynorbert:
Feb. 11th, 2009 @ 11:15 am Interesting article
I came across this while looking for something completely unrelated and thought it might be of interest to this community.

Why I Choose to Be Childfree in Church

Her frustration is palpable, and probably something that many of us have experienced in our own faith histories. I actually really enjoy the kids in my church -- I taught Sunday School for two years, I'm the youth group advisor, and I direct the annual Christmas pageant -- but I could still relate to a lot of what she was saying.
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eowyn
[info]ladynorbert:
Jan. 25th, 2009 @ 09:23 pm Hi.
Current Mood: contemplative
I don't know if I've ever posted on here before, but I'm doing it now so oh well. I have a question, have any of you child free christian done whatever needed to be done to remain child free permanently? I'm talking sterilization. If not, are you considering? If so, did you struggle with the decision before or after?
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Kiss
[info]zerozander:
Dec. 5th, 2008 @ 01:04 am Conflicts between issues and church.
Has anyone here had their political beliefs keep them away from church?

I am Christian and pro-choice. I don’t believe I could ever personally get an abortion (though I may feel differently if the situation came up), but I absolutely believe that they should be available to those who do need/want them.

This has been a problem at church because, as a lot of churches are pro-life, we’ve had speakers in for “Sanctity of Life” days, and our church recently participated in the 40 Days of Life. It’s just things of that nature that make me uncomfortable at church anymore. My husband assures me that there are other people at our church that feel the same way I do, and that not everyone is always going to agree with the pastor. But I still feel like I am being preached at.

(I have similar problems with church when it comes to GLBT issues and rights, but that’s not childfree related.)

It just really upsets me, because I don’t want to feel like I’m drifting away from God, but I just can’t stand hearing how wrong what I believe in is all the time. Maybe I just need to find some sort of bible study course and have my own worship time instead of forcing myself to go to church.
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[info]curlyjo1:
Aug. 22nd, 2008 @ 11:31 am Homemaking for the Single and Childfree-a rant
Current Mood: annoyed
I can't cook to save my life, and I'm working to remedy that.  I currently live on my own, and I'm doing everything I can to save money since I only work part time and commute to grad school once a week.  Thankfully, the cost of living is pretty low where I live.  I have a low-rent apartment that looks like something that crawled out of 1970- and I love it. :)  My project for this fall is to learn how to cook, and to learn how to do it well so that I can save money by not having to buy pre-packaged food. 

a rant about the politics of homemaking and the Internet )
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[info]saira:
Aug. 6th, 2008 @ 02:22 pm Intro Post, Of Sorts
The subject of babies has been coming up a lot in my life lately. Really ever since Angelina Jolie graced the red carpet with her gorgeous twin filled belly. Then my dreams of babies started. I think it was three weeks of non-stop dreams about babies. Having babies, getting a baby, holding babies, playing with babies, people giving me their babies...oh my gosh! Every time I closed my eyes I'd dream about having a baby.

Babies just seem to be popping up a lot. At least it's not like Christmas 2005 when most of the women I knew were either having a baby that month or were announcing their pregnancies. I felt so weirded out. I've never been a traditional person and I started to wonder why I didn't feel that overwhelming desire that most of my girl friends felt for having babies. I even tried to convince myself that I was missing out on something; but later I realized that what I really wanted was all the attention they were getting. I loved the attention I got when Mike and I got married, who wouldn't want that again? Princess for a day!

Mike and I talked this weekend about having kids and he's said that he really, really doesn't want kids. He said "not now" but then went on to explain that he thinks that kids today are just awful and that very few parents are being real parents. "Parents aren't in control anymore, they all feel like they have to be their kids' best friend." Every time we go out and some child starts screaming because she wants something and mom starts yelling and telling the child to be quiet or even shut up I just cringe. I even get the urge to gag - and I'm not being silly, I really feel that way. I get this horrible physical reaction to these types of families. And I'm not generalizing by saying all kids are this way - every kid and every parent has a bad day - you can tell the difference in the tantrum. It's the families where the screaming is so loud and forceful and demanding that you know that this is a common occurence. It's those people that make me leave wherever I am.

As Mike and I talked I realized that if we don't have kids, it's okay. I like things the way they are right now. We're finally seeing the light at the end of our debt tunnel and it gets closer every paycheck, which means we're getting closer to being able to do more things and explore our interests more. For instance, I'd still really like to take some graphic design classes. Mike wants to get a motorcycle. We both want to travel (although we both want to lose a little weight so the plane seats will be more comfortable).

For instance, this morning I brought him lunch and I just said, "I miss you today." I don't know why I said it but he smiled and said, "Yeah, I miss you today too." Because I didn't really expect me to say I missed him, I was doubly shocked to hear him say it too. I said, "Do you really?" He said, "Yeah, today has been a long day." And he smiled the smile he only smiles for me. It made me feel really loved to know that when he's having a bad day he knows it'll get better when he sees me. I don't think I'd actually recognized that before, or if I did I just took it for granted.

During our conversation last weekend, Mike said, "Before we have kids we have to take at least one big trip somewhere. Because after that it'll be 18 years before we can really afford to travel again." OMG! 18 years?! What?! I was shocked! For so long I didn't do things because I was so overcome with anxiety. Now that I'm feeling adventurous I can't imagine not being able to do the things I want when I want to do them.

At first I said, "yeah, one big trip would be nice." But then I started thinking about the four years my parents and I lived in Germany and how awesome it was just to jump in the car and go somewhere new. Mike and I won't be joining the military anytime soon, and I doubt he'd join the Peace Corps., so traveling won't be as easy for us with a kid as it was for my parents. It's easy when you live in the middle of Europe (okay not the exact middle), but not when you live in the US and want to go to Europe.

We made a list then of all the good things there are about not being parents. Mike's first comment was, "Look at your Aunt Deb and Uncle Terry. They don't have kids and they seem really happy." He's right. When we visited them for a weekend a few years ago, they were just adorable in a non-gross kind of way. Their nickname for each other was Bug. My Uncle Terry was a hoot, telling us all kinds of stories that I'm sure were fudged just a little bit (kind of like the way my dad tells stories!) to which my Aunt Deb would get on to him for not telling the story the right way. I loved watching them and how playful they were. They did a lot of things together - traveling and going to dog shows and doing the stuff that they enjoyed. They didn't seem sad without children.

My parents are good role models for lasting marriage. But I think my Uncle Terry and my Aunt Deb are also good role models for lasting marriage without kids. It's nice to have four adults showing Mike and I how to have a successful marriage.

Mike even suggested that we should really start making a point to be a part of our the lives our two nephews and our step-niece. That way if we ever just want to hang around kids we'll have some kids to be around. But then we can go away when we both get tired or bored or annoyed *lol*.
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[info]themenow:
Aug. 3rd, 2008 @ 10:55 pm The Dating Question

As the so-called odd duck in two ponds, how does being childfree and Christian affect the dating process?  Is this something you bring up quickly, to filter out dates who obviously won’t be a match later on?  Have you found a hot spot for meeting like-minded single individuals?  Do you feel pressure from family, co-workers, or congregation members to date more often, or face awkward, personal inquiries?

I’m not sure I have a lot of answers for the above questions.  My church isn’t overflowing with women in my age group, nor has anyone asked me a lot of questions about my status.  Looking 16 years old helps out in that category, I guess.  I certainly get hounded by the family at every opportunity though. 

The depressing part is, at times the odds seem overwhelming.  Unlike the more superficial attributes that you might be looking for in a partner, like “green eyes” or “enjoys swimming”, the whole Christian and childfree checkboxes are kind of a dealbreaker.  When you look at that as an immediate qualification factor for dates, it changes the game very dramatically.  The clubs, speed dating, and matchmaking sites all seem to me to be geared towards that high volume of women in their twenties, hearing their biological clocks ticking, trying to find the right guy so they can settle down and start making babies.  If you’re after something different, you’re out of luck. 

Chime in and tell everyone what you think about this subject, i.e. any/all of the above.

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[info]brandonkent:
Jul. 12th, 2008 @ 03:02 pm Today Show - Vasectomy Before Children
This was on the Today show quite a while back (Oct 2007), I thought I would share it. 

http://allday.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/10/03/393201.aspx

It doesn't really bring up any religous aspects of the childfree decision, but there are pages and pages of comments on this segment from people across the country.  I think they fall into a few distinct categories:

a) "This is news?" - Either a rejection that Toby's decision was out of the ordinary, or that such a lifestyle choice is a private matter and thus not really an appropriate news item.
b) Support from other childfree couples/individuals who applaud the decision and encourage men to take more action on their reproductive choices.
c) Criticism or derision of Toby's decision, calling him selfish, saying he will change his mind later, he is missing out on the joys of parenthood, etc.
d) Complaints from women that Toby was allowed to get a vasectomy while unmarried and without children, but they were denied the opportunity in similar circumstances for a tubal ligation.
e) Stories of men who have had a vasectomy at some point and either regret the decision, or got a reversal when their life circumstances changed (new spouse, etc).

It was pretty appalling to hear the stories from women who were not allowed by their doctors to have an elective surgical procedure like tubal ligation on their own body.  Some were required to have spousal consent or waited years, while others were flat out refused for decades.  One woman was told to see a psychiatrist first before the doctor would consider it.  From a male perspective, I expect a certain amount of hassle when I go to get it done, but I don't think I would tolerate anything that they put up with.  I would look into legal action if it were possible.

I read through several pages of the comments and thought it was a decent "person on the street" view of how society thinks about this subject right now.
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[info]brandonkent:
Jun. 29th, 2008 @ 07:31 pm Introduction Post

Allow myself to introduce….myself…

I’m a 26-year old guy, Methodist, and child-free.  I’ve always known I didn’t want kids of my own.  I definitely fall into the “unequivocally child-free, not no way no how” category, even though I appreciate the time I spend with my eleven nieces and nephews and adore them dearly.  Child-free is such a certainty to me.  Eventually I would like to get snipped down there in the gentlemanly region for practicality’s sake and to prevent anything accidental in the future.

I’m still working out the reconciliation of the child-free decision with my faith.  I wouldn’t classify myself as a child-hater, although I have been annoyed by small children before (who hasn’t?).  Just my personal religious opinion, but I believe that Jesus loved little children and cared for them very much.  Still, I don’t think there is a “New Covenant” moral imperative to reproduce.  In fact, it would be morally reprehensible in my opinion to bring life into this world and not take care of things responsibly.

Parenting is such a huge responsibility and a life-changing enterprise.  I know full well what goes into it, you really have to be (or should be) endlessly dedicated to your kids to do it right.  Anyone who nurtures a child to adulthood with love and care certainly has my admiration, and they deserve it.  I guess I see raising a Christian family as God’s work, if someone so chooses to follow that path.  To me, it’s not the only choice though.  I’d like to continue to give charitably, be involved at church, help out my family as much as possible, be a servant to others, and really define a different sort of discipleship.

The accusation that being child-free is selfish has some teeth for me.  I’m not sure why.  Perhaps it should only encourage me to be more selfless.  Anyways, I’ll end my incoherent ramblings here and let some others chime in.

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[info]brandonkent:
Jun. 12th, 2008 @ 01:26 am I got a giggle out of this!
Apparently pigeons are smarter than three-year-olds!

That's it. When people ask why I don't want kids, I'll just tell them I'm investing my time in homing pigeons. Lol.

x-posted to [info]pcos_childfree
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[info]rena_librarian:
May. 31st, 2008 @ 04:10 am God go with me...
Current Location: home
Current Mood: busy
Current Music: You're Gone--Diamond Rio
I'm headed out to my family reunion tomorrow morning, and I'm going to be seeing a lot of relatives that I haven't really seen or talked to much since our grandmother died three years ago--in other words, since I've made the conscious decision to be childfree. Most of my cousins (all but three plus myself) are breeders and one just started taking in foster children on top of her own brood of four, and my family isn't the most liberal group out there, so I'm kind of dreading it--I have a feeling that I'm going to be "outed" and it's not going to be fun.

Even if it doesn't come up, I still have to deal with all the kids. -_-* Technically the reunion started tonight and isn't over until Monday, but I'll be arriving tomorrow around lunchtime and leaving Sunday afternoon. 36 hours will be more than enough. I'm taking some books and hoping the kids will want to be outside the whole time (luckily I'm not much of one for sunshine, lol).

Now, I'm not going to be antagonistic, but I HAVE saved this bingo card to my desktop, and if it comes up, I WILL actively be keeping score. ^_^

So I'm curious--how do you deal with your extended family's opinions of your childfreedom, especially when they criticize you? I have a couple of snappy comebacks ready just in case, but I'd love to hear new ones! Also, if you have someone (CF or otherwise) who has your back in these sort of situations, I want to know. One of my sisters has decided that she just plain doesn't want marriage or a relationship, so she totally understands how hard it is to go against the grain in our family, and she was texting me today asking when I was going to get there. Hehe.


x-posted from [info]pcos_childfree
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[info]rena_librarian:
May. 22nd, 2008 @ 04:52 am CF PWNAGE. Score!
Current Location: home
Current Mood: amused
Current Music: My Sacrifice--Creed
Modified and x-posted from my personal journal and to [info]pcos_childfree.

(Blah blah blah, clarifying to the flist what childfreedom is...)

Anyway. Having been none too pleased with the RL opportunities that have crossed my path, and having been directed to a 100% free dating site, I've ventured back into online dating. Now, among other things on your profile, there's an option you can check as to how you feel about kids: yes, do not want kids, undecided/open. I'll only message guys in the latter two, but I don't stop kid-wanters from messaging me. I figure if they see that and message me anyway they're not too serious about it, but I'd definitely ask before things got too far.

Anyway, I was checking my messages tonight and got my first onsite IM. Of course as soon as it popped up I was checking out the guy's profile, and he fit the basics (nonsmoker, Christian, right age, etc), but it was riddled with typos and we didn't seem to have any interests in common. Still, he had expressed interest so I was trying to be polite, 'cause hey, you never know.

Well, his IM spelling/grammar was no better than his profile so I was pretty quick to see that it was going to go nowhere fast. I can forgive typos and certain misspellings if effort is being made, but he told me he was at the age where it's difficult to meet girls thusly: "i am at that age know whar it is defrclt to find agirl" Copied-and-pasted. Ouch. And he was trying to tell me how smart he was, because my profile says I'm looking for a geeky guy. I asked him three times what his favorite book was and he never answered.

I put up that I drink and he was looking for a nondrinker, but he asked how much and he said it was fine. Then I noticed he only wanted to date girls who live on their own. Meep, that set off alarm bells. At the end, I saw my golden window: Wants kids: yes.

(lots of pasted poor grammar and spelling ensue)

rena_librarian:  so why would you only date a girl who lived by herself?
DatingSiteGuy:  so that way she could take me to her house and it would just be us
rena_librarian:  you live at home?
DatingSiteGuy:  avry girl i dated lived with her parints and never drove
DatingSiteGuy:  a i stell live with my mom and dad

...yeah, I think he was looking for sex. Just a hunch. So I brought up the kids thing:

rena_librarian:  ...your profile says you want kids
DatingSiteGuy:  yes i love kids
rena_librarian:  I don't want kids
rena_librarian:  it's on my profile
DatingSiteGuy:  well thats you
rena_librarian:  haha, yeah, but I wouldn't want to date a guy who definitely wanted to have them someday
DatingSiteGuy:  you have not playd with any kids be for have you
rena_librarian:  actually, I have seven neices and nephews, and a goddaughter
rena_librarian:  not to mention 15+ younger cousins
rena_librarian:  and church kids
rena_librarian:  and kids when I was a junior counselor at a summer camp

...I was rather proud of myself. I still tried to be nice though, I don't figure anyone likes to be shot down any more than I do. If there's someone out there for me, there's someone out there for him, too. Just...not me.

rena_librarian:  kids are okay in small doses, when they're someone else's and I can send them home when they get whiny/cranky
rena_librarian:  but I wouldn't want to live with them
DatingSiteGuy:  and i would not mined dating a person who has kinds
rena_librarian:  maybe you should put that in your profile; there's a lot of single moms who have a hard time finding a date
DatingSiteGuy:  your right
rena_librarian:  so I don't think you and me would make a good match
rena_librarian:  but good luck

So yeah. I think that officially counts as my first bingo from a stranger. Family is one thing, and I can even understand Crazy Betty from work, but that was just...wow.

And a thought: Why do people retort with "You'll change your mind when you have one and hold it in your arms!" When is that going to be if I've decided never to have them? *scratches head in puzzlement*
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[info]rena_librarian:
May. 18th, 2008 @ 04:35 am (no subject)
Current Mood: curious
Have any of you ever written a research paper regarding being Christian and childfree? I am taking a course on the psychology of religion and I have chosen to write about childfree Christians and I am having some trouble finding sources.
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[info]uglygreencouch:
Mar. 22nd, 2008 @ 11:12 am Rather off-topic for the childfree part...
...but on-topic for the Christian part. I do apologize for the lack of relevance to childfree-ness; this is the only Christian comm I still belong to, and I wanted to share this.

For those who don't read it, "The New Adventures of Queen Victoria" is a delightfully snarky webcomic featuring -- well, Queen Victoria. Her son Albert Edward (later Edward VII) is also a regular character. Recurring visitors to the strip include Elizabeth I, Teddy Roosevelt, Oliver Cromwell, and the Virgin Mary. It's esoteric, a little bizarre, and often thought-provoking.

Today, it's sort of obvious that the artist, Pab, is a Christian. See for yourself. )
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[info]ladynorbert:
Mar. 6th, 2008 @ 07:09 pm Where is everyone?
Current Mood: okay
I'm new to livejournal and joined up because of this group. DH and I have been married for 5 1/2 years and are fencesitters. It's especially hard to find Christian fellowship that doesn't involved attending little league games and listening to stories about poopy diapers. I think if it weren't for the fact that I am an only child, the fact that DH's nieces and nephews are spread out all over the country, and the fact that we don't have a single childfree friend, I would have had my tubes tied by now! It angers me that if we do make the decision to have a child  that I will always question my motivations because of all the pressure in the Christian world.

Thanks for listening, and I hope you all come back from wherever you've been hiding since December. :)
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[info]disneydixiediva:
Dec. 10th, 2007 @ 06:31 pm Adult Advent devotions?
I posted this question in Childfree and they directed me here...

For the past few years I've been looking around for Advent devotions and it seems almost all of them are kid-related! Kid activities, devotions that help kids learn about Advent, blahblahblah. I want GROWNUP Advent devotions, ones that don't involve construction paper or cute little stories! Does anyone know of any?

Please and thank you. :)
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[info]kat144: