Kevin Jones ([info]mulder200) wrote in [info]blackfolk,
@ 2004-05-25 00:08:00
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A different view on Cosby
So the phone rings, and it's Cosby calling
Posted: May 22, 2004


Eugene Kane
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The message was pretty succinct: Bill Cosby wanted to talk to me.

According to his representative, Cosby read my column about his comments at a Washington, D.C., ceremony celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Brown vs. Board of Education case, and he wanted to respond.

Expect a call inside an hour, I was told.

Ordinarily, that kind of news would have me drunk with glee; Cosby has been a personal hero for years. But in my column Thursday, I criticized him for slamming low-income African-Americans and their children for everything from their speech to their buying habits.

Based on a report in The Washington Post that Cosby mocked the language of poor blacks and blamed them for dragging down the rest of society, I chided Cosby for his harsh views and even called him a "curmudgeon."

So when the phone rang and it was none other than Cosby on the other end of the line, frankly, I was pretty intimidated.

That didn't last long.

"Mr. Kane? First, what I want to say is this is not an argument, this is a discussion."

For the next hour, I had a wide-ranging discussion with one of the most famous and successful entertainers in America.

During our talk, he managed to clarify most of his remarks at the Brown vs. Board event.

By the time we were finished, it had been part gentle chastising, part history lesson and partly just a pair of North Philly homeboys talking about growing up in that city.

Cosby said many of his comments in Washington had been taken out of context.

He never meant to suggest all lower-income people were to blame for society's problem.

He said an important qualifying statement was left out of articles about his remarks, mainly his references to a 50% high school graduation rate for blacks across the nation.

"I didn't say all black people from the lower classes were to blame. But I said that when you have a 50 percent graduation rate, and some people can't put two sentences together, and can't write or spell . . . you've got people who have put themselves on a track to failure."

Cosby said he was trying to sound a clarion call with his remarks, most of which weren't reported in the mainstream media.

"What I was saying," Cosby said, was that "we're not paying attention to these messages our children are sending us."

He talked about the hidden meanings behind some kids' fashions, when some black males wear orange jumpsuits, and pants low on their waists, "like they're in jail."

He decried the lack of emphasis on education among some black youth who concentrate more on sports than academics.

He criticized the glorification of a "pimp" mentality among black youth, even to the point where it's celebrated in rap videos on BET and elsewhere.

Not one to mince words, he placed the blame squarely on black parents, no ifs, ands or buts about it.

"I'm talking about parenting. It is time for us to turn the mirror around. We have to take back the neighborhood."

He didn't back down from his criticism of bad English; Cosby was insistent that many blacks could speak better if it became more of a priority in their households.

"We can't excuse these people. There are generations who have been born here and their English is worse than Koreans who have just been here a few years."

At 66 years old, Cosby said he had become frustrated at the dysfunction of some blacks, and the downward path many black communities have traveled.

His criticisms were strident because he felt the problems required a sense of urgency.

"I'm a tired man," he said at one point.

At one point in our conversation, I explained my motivation for writing the column, based on my belief that his reported remarks lacked appropriate compassion for low-income blacks with sub-par education.

I was simply doing what I always try to do as a black journalist, speaking up for defenseless people.

"You're absolutely correct," he told me. "I understand what you were doing."

Cosby also took time to correct me on the circumstances surrounding Autumn Jackson, the woman who claimed to be his out-of-wedlock child. (I made reference to Jackson in my column.)

Cosby said she has steadfastly refused his offer to take a paternity test.

By the end of the conversation, I was literally light-headed with excitement.

What initially promised to be an uncomfortable moment ended up one of the highlights of my journalism career.

I don't make a habit of taking things back. What's the point in that if you believe in what you say?

But I do think my column Thursday did a disservice to Cosby by not presenting all of his comments in context.

A man who has donated millions of dollars to charity - much of that in the name of educating black children - shouldn't have to defend himself to someone like me.

But, seeing how things turned out, I'm glad I said what I did. After discovering we attended the same high school, Bill Cosby even sang a bit of our old school song to me!

Some days, you can't beat this job.



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[info]billiam
2004-05-24 09:17 pm UTC (link)
Coz is da man

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[info]enigma_atom
2004-05-24 09:32 pm UTC (link)
I wonder if Cosby's entire speech, no words taken or added, is available anywhere.

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[info]tuluum
2004-05-24 10:08 pm UTC (link)
he's got my support 100%

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[info]waveguy04
2004-05-24 10:14 pm UTC (link)
I'm with Mr. Cosby. How could you disagree w/ that. I'm glad to see someone else thinks BET is bad television for blacks. Give me news!

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[info]mawgry
2004-05-25 12:47 am UTC (link)
Im glad that happened.

Nothing is worse than when the news cuts and pastes stories together to make the most hype/dollars.

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[info]undercoverbro
2004-05-25 01:04 am UTC (link)
A few comments:

1. I have a feeling that the speech Mr. Cosby gave had subtle but important differences from what was reported, but most everyone can agree that any public expression of unpopular opinions will make an audience uncomfortable. This is a mixed blessing to the media: it's newsworthy, it's attention-grabbing, but without spin it feels equally unresolved to the reader or viewer. So the media portray it as controversy and infighting. Black-on-black criticism, if you will.

2. While Mr. Kane feels he "did a disservice to Cosby by not presenting all of his comments in context," the fact remains that the phone conversation only happened because of his original, critical column. That Mr. Cosby felt compelled to respond to the comments and clear the air only shows how free speech, warts and all, can sometimes work.

3. Does anyone else think Mr. Cosby is just making a natural progression as a trailblazing social activist? After spending decades trying to change the external perception of blacks, is it possible that he thinks it's time to work on self-perception?

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[info]senatr7
2004-05-25 08:40 am UTC (link)
thanks for posting this. On another message board, the Cosby comments were just another way for some people to parade around without their hoods on. It's good to get some clarity, since the mainstream media is really only interested in muckraking.

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[info]onnotangu
2004-05-25 12:48 pm UTC (link)
thanks for the informative post.

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[info]seanp
2004-05-26 03:04 am UTC (link)
He may be a cranky old man, but he's still got common sense. :-)

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[info]lonecheerio
2004-05-26 03:24 pm UTC (link)
I just hated this article. I don''t know if it was the way it was written or what, but it irked me. I think it just re-iterates how unnecessary Cosby's comments were.

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Bad English
[info]queen_7
2004-05-28 05:17 pm UTC (link)
There is no such thing as bad English. To declare a language ungrammatical, we must understand the structure of the source language. African American Language, in my opinion, is not a dialect of English, though much of the lexicon or words are English. All languages tend to borrow words and place them into the structures and sound systems of their own language. This is precisely what AAL has done. The structure of the language mirrors its African structures, particularly in the tense and aspect system. This is similar to other African-based Creole languages.

So, if Cosby says that Black people can’t speak English, and that he wouldn't speak like that, then he is really saying that he is linguistically challenged and can only speak European American Language. Most African Americans can easily code switch, or change languages. African American Language is, like us, from Africa, and not a bad, faulty, slang, street or corrupt English. It works more like its African source languages than anything else. I recently presented a paper with a comparison of the tense/aspect systems of Wolof (Senegal), West African Pidgin English and African American Language to a statewide research competition and won. For example, the aspect marker "di" in Wolof means usually, habitually, or always. It works exactly like the "be" in AAL. It is not related to the copula, or "be" in English, though it looks like an English word. It can't be negated, it doesn't change for person/number, and it doesn't move to the front of a sentence for a question. I believe it came from the Wolof "di." The linguistic structure of AAL is, in my opinion, much more complex than English is. And we have been so criticized for the use of the word "axe" [ask] when in fact it is an Old English word that came into AAL through West African Pidgin English.

Jesse Jackson also jumped up with criticisms during the Oakland School Board proposal that simply spoke to his mideducation and lack of understanding. It looks like Bill and many others are lacking the knowledge and the liberation of the mind to accept the information. Our language carries our culture, our worldview, our brilliance, and our soul. It is as creative as we are, and people love to copy it, just like anything else that we do. And it seems to only carry negative connotations when WE use it! I often hear Steve Harvey and others make comments to the effect that Black folks can't speak any language well, and I get so angry. We cannot carry our own oppression in our mouths. We have to be liberated enough to know that we didn't check our culture at the shores of the Motherland. We need to stop saying negative things to each other about our wonderful language. We need to stop telling our children that it is less professional. This damages their self-esteem. We should be honest, and say that since Europeans have the power, we must speak their language (EAL) when in their environments. That certainly doesn't make it better, or the language of educated people. Peace

M.A. Linguistics

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