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Collection Recap: Growing Like a Weed (1995-96)

I thought it was time for another wall of text...

 

Lynn explains on the back cover that this collection was to be titled Never Take Advice from a Guy who Crushes Beer Cans with his Head, featuring a panel of Weed doing just that as Mike looks on, but she felt that Weed didn’t represent the entire Patterson family as well as the eventual title, Growing Like a Weed, did, showing April getting taller, Elizabeth “more mature” [sic], Mike more independent and John and Elly growing older. 

Recurring characters introduced:

Incidental characters:

  • Blair, the hard-sell time-share representative at the resort in Mexico
  • Becky’s parents (unnamed), seen while April is staying with Becky for two weeks
  • Jodi and Kit, the girls who share the kitchen with Mike and Weed, are seen briefly at the end of one school year, and then never again, not even when Mike and Weed return after the summer
  • Kenny, one of the truck drivers who helps rescue Deanna
  • Mel and Colleen Smith, and their two-month-old daughter, Tabitha Jayne, introduced only so John can make a horrible pun about “Come to me my Mel and Colleen’s baby”
  • Vanessa, a little girl in a grocery store, and her mother. In a rather touching strip, John spots her putting fruit in her little cart and asks her her name, saying that he has a little girl at home about the same age, but Vanessa’s mother swoops in and whisks the child away, warning her not to talk to the man because they don’t know who he is. At home later, John hugs April and says that he knows she was just protecting her child, but sometimes he hates the world they live in (although I can't help but wonder what the strip would be like if it had been a strange man approaching April when Elly wasn't looking).
  • three guys at the beach who spend the day with Dawn and Liz
  • Daphne, the horse Liz looks after and learns to ride in Manitoba
  • hicks residents in Aberdeen, Manitoba: Herb Snelgroot, Booger Harris, Fred and Parky Parkinson
  • April’s classmates Stuart Gorman, Danica (who has a horse), Nathan, Janet and James
  • Melba, a miscellaneous friend of Elly’s never seen before or since
  • Willard Flatt, some classmate of Liz’s who got arrested over the summer for mooning a police car on highway 427
  • Pamela, an acquaintance of Elly’s and Connie’s who boasts of getting all her Christmas shopping done back in October

Biographical information:

  • Elly doesn’t wear silver jewellery
  • Edgar got “amorous with the ladies” while at the kennel
  • April turns five and has a birthday party with her parents, Becky, and a couple of other friends, one of whom might be a larval-Duncan and the other looks like Mike’s childhood friend Darryl Smythe. She still speaks in baby talk: “anyfing”, “den”, “gived”, “huggy”, “Livabeff”, “birfday”…
  • John’s first car was a ’57 Chevy
  • Lawrence checks out the Pattersons’ garden and spends several days planting shrubs – it isn’t clear if he is paid for this or if it was a freebie for the family
  • Aberdeen, Manitoba has a chip stand called Runcie’s (which has caught fire more than once)
  • Dawn and Shawna-Marie work at the Ice Cream Circus over the summer
  • Mike has to hire a boat from Rupe’s Rentals (“Hour, Day, Week”) to get Edgar back from a diving platform in the middle of a lake when the dog refuses to swim back to shore
  • April starts kindergarten: the best thing is that “they gots a hot lunch”
  • Candace gives her full name as Candace Jesse Halloran
  • Candace shaves her head, Shawna-Marie gets her nose pierced and a flower tattooed on her ankle, Duane gets a tattoo, Dawn gets her grade 10 in piano, Nandini gets dreadlocks and Anthony becomes president of the “Aliens” space club
  • Shawna-Marie’s brother has, and races, a stock car
  • Becky gives April her turtles and “the Scotts” give April a fish; April also brings home a snake
  • Mike and Deanna went to a bar where everyone danced in soapsuds
  • Weed almost broke the college record for “the weenie run”, where you put a wiener in each nostril and see how far you can run
  • John puts a hole in the laundry room wall so he can run a train track around the ceiling, with an aim towards doing this around all the rooms in the house
  • Brian spends the Christmas holidays visiting relatives in Japan
  • Allyson Creemore has married someone she’d known for only three months
  • Brad Luggsworth joins the Air Force
  • Rhetta finishes her business course and goes to work for her dad 

Elly and John are off again, this time for a few days in Mexico. Elly explains to a curious April that sometimes it’s nice for a husband and wife to be together on their own from time to time. April points out that her parents went away very recently and Elly says that their last trip was over nine months ago. Mike goes skiing with Weed, April stays at Becky’s, Liz at Dawn’s and Edgar at Kit’s Kozy Kennels. In a reversal of the usual beach stories, Elly is the one checking out the pretty girls and John puts his arm around Elly and says that he’s with one of the pretty ones. Elly suggests that they learn to speak some of the language and John learns the Spanish word for beer, explaining that he has to start somewhere.  The Pattersons are invited to a free lunch put on by the hotel only to discover that it’s to introduce them to the hotel’s time-share program. They are asked to make a $30,000 commitment in ten minutes, but when they decline, the salesman vanishes without letting them complete their sentence.

Elly and Connie continue jogging twice a week and gossiping over coffee, and Elly still complains about her inability to shift any weight off her thighs. Connie announces that Lawrence has decided to become a landscape artist and Elly says that Mike will be a writer for sure. At university, Mike and Weed have finished their exams and Weed borrows his dad’s camera to take photos of their campus so they can look back one day and remember the emotional outpouring they went through. Weed is tired but insists upon driving even though Mike offers to take over. Suddenly they see a car ahead of them flip over on its side into the ditch. Other drivers are on the scene first, saying that the driver is still alive and asking if anyone has a blanket. Weed goes to retrieve the sleeping bags from the back of his car while Mike talks about how lucky they are and brandishes Weed’s father’s camera. Weed races down with the sleeping bags and asks what he can do to help; Mike tells him to get out of the way so he can take a clear shot. He then hands the camera over to Weed and gets out his notebook to make notes. Weed’s initial attempts to help evaporate as he gets caught up in Mike’s enthusiasm and he starts suggesting things they need to record so they can report on it. A crowd forms as more and more people come to see what is happening and the ambulance struggles to get through, but eventually the girl is rescued. The ambulance driver tells Kenny, the truck driver, that he saved the girl’s life. Mike asks Weed if he got a statement from the truck driver for their article, but Weed says that Kenny just sat down and cried. Mike and Weed head straight to a 24-hour photo place to get the pictures developed to see if they can be published in the next day’s newspaper and Weed complains about the crowd who stopped to gawk at the accident, but Mike says that that’s what makes it news. Mike brushes past Elly upon his return home and heads straight to the computer to write up his story. 

The story does make the front page of the local paper, The Valley Voice, but is edited considerably and Elly stops Mike from complaining when she points out that he knew the victim: Deanna Sobinski. (It isn’t explained how this is apparently Mike’s article, yet Elly reads out several sentences from it which describe details of which Mike appears to be completely unaware. Also left unexplained is why Mike claimed to have discovered journalistic integrity two years ago when he didn’t publish his story about the life and experiences of Mr Bergner, the college janitor, yet abandoned said integrity at the very first opportunity.) Mike feels guilty immediately and explains to Liz that he had a crush on Deanna when they were kids, but that Deanna had moved away and they lost touch.

Mike goes to visit Deanna at the hospital to apologize for taking pictures, meeting her mother in the corridor. Mrs Sobinski is grateful that someone who knew Deanna was with her during the accident and hugs Mike, taking him into Deanna’s hospital room. Deanna is sedated still, with a fractured shoulder, broken nose and punctured lung, so a reunion will have to wait, but Mrs Sobinski, with her arm around Mike, tells him that it’s a miracle that Deanna is alive and miracles should be shared. Mike tells Weed that next time they’ll have some compassion when they report an accident. 

Mike returns once Deanna is awake and they talk. She explains how she fell asleep at the wheel after spending too many late nights studying for her pharmacy exams. With the sun in her eyes as she drove home, she became tired and began to dream that she was driving. The wheels hit the shoulder and she opened her eyes and saw the barrier at the roadside, then stepped on the gas pedal by accident – she doesn’t remember anything else. Mike remembers that he and Deanna last spoke in Grade 4 and then her family moved to Burlington; Deanna teases him about having had a crush on her. When they discover that they’ll both be attending the University of Western Ontario in the autumn, Mike asks her if she thinks that the accident was fate: she says that it was stupidity. They exchange addresses and Mike goes home in a state of bliss only for Liz to bring him back down to earth with a message that Rhetta called.

Mike hesitates for a few panels before calling Rhetta and discovers that she wants to meet so they can talk. He flips out about how he’s just met someone else and now his ex wants back into his life, and Liz sensibly points out that maybe Rhetta just wants to say hi and maybe Deanna already has a boyfriend: maybe neither of them want to be with him. Mike somehow manages to tie Liz’s turtleneck sweater over her head, tying the arms together and also tying her socks together. 

As it turns out, however, both girls *do* want to be with Mike in their own way, although Deanna takes longer to acknowledge this. Rhetta speaks first, saying that she never stopped caring about Mike and admitting that the guy she dumped Mike for has now dumped her, so she’d like to get back together now that she’s had the opportunity to see how much better their relationship was. Mike can’t make up his mind, so Elly tells him to follow his heart and Mike winds up at a pizza restaurant with Weed. Ahem. Weed advises Mike to date them both and see how it goes, then crushes a beer can against his forehead (see above where the rejected title for this collection was mentioned). Mike decides that, having let his heart lead him to Weed, it’s time to see where the car will take him and finds that it drives him to Deanna’s. He asks her out and discovers that she’s engaged.

Elly continues to suffer with the side effects of menopause and she and Connie celebrate (over coffee, naturally) that they have known each other for over 30 years, from mini-dress to menopause. Moira discovers that Elly’s symptoms are called peri-menopause, then says that it’s a major scientific advance if a woman’s symptoms are given a name because it means that scientists (presumably all males) believe that the condition exists. Elly also learns that her eyesight is getting worse and has to buy glasses; Liz, who knows a thing or two about adjusting to wearing glasses, goes with her and encourages her to buy the ones which look best even if they are expensive. 

Several weeks after returning to Milborough, Mike drops by to see Gord and Tracey and tells them that he’s back with Rhetta now. Gord and Tracey are putting in two more pumps, including diesel, a canopy and a kiosk. Business is steady, but they never get any time off. Gord can’t find someone he trusts and can rely on, someone who cares: someone like him. Lawrence suggests that he, Mike, Brian and Ben could take turns running the gas station to give Gord and Tracey a long weekend as a belated wedding present. John tells Gord that the Pattersons didn’t invest in the service station: they invested in Gord. This is the first time Mike has heard about his parents’ involvement and he asks John about it privately, wanting to know what if something happened and they didn’t get their money back (he doesn’t come right out and ask if there are inheritance implications). John describes himself as a partner in the business and says that he likes to take a gamble now and then and wouldn’t bet on a horse he didn’t think would win. Gord and Tracey head off for a few days at his aunt’s cottage in the Muskokas, where they foolishly leave their trash on the porch and attract the attention of a bear. They embrace and watch the sunset over the lake. When they return, they prepare to hire a couple of employees to make sure that the garage is run properly.

Mike finds that all he and Rhetta do now is argue, then make up. With Liz on her way to the farm for the summer, he bristles when Rhetta recalls that long-distance relationships don’t work, and accuses her of speaking about them and his plans to go to university in London. 

Before leaving for Winnipeg, Liz and Dawn spend a Sunday at the beach where they meet three older guys – old enough to drive at least, and to buy (or have bought for them) beer. Liz downs a beer with enthusiasm while Dawn looks at hers suspiciously. They are driven home in a convertible and the driver kisses Liz goodbye, but when Elly asks what happened at the beach, Liz says, “Oh…nothing.” While on the farm, Liz learns to ride a horse, staggering around afterwards causing Uncle Danny to compare her to Herb Snelgroot after his vasectomy. She also gets to drive a truck back to the house from the north field, and dances for joy that she’s able to drive. Liz joins Bev, Danny and Laura at a farm auction and gets caught up in the excitement, buying a rabbit. She brings home the bunny in a carrier and April is enchanted with the new pet. John cautions that Elly will be upset, but acknowledges that the rabbit is awfully cute. April breaks the news to Elly first and begs to keep him. Mike suggests “Stew” as a name, but Liz procrastinates and finally hears April calling him Mr B. The name sticks. Liz isn’t particularly interested in looking after her rabbit and, when Elly tells her to take responsibility for her own pet, Liz offers him to an overjoyed April.

Weed collects Mike for the drive back to Mrs Dingle’s place. They’re not going to be on the same campus this year, but Mike is happy that at least they’ll be rooming together again. Mike tells Weed that Rhetta didn’t make it easy on him on their last night together and Weed suggests that Mike make Rhetta part of his past. 

April, Duncan and Becky start kindergarten together, in a class of 24. April and Duncan are assigned to the same four-person group (identified by colours – theirs is blue) and April, in a heavy-handed punchline, says to Duncan that it’s cool that they’re both the same colour.

Liz has a bad hair day but it pales in comparison to Candace, who shaved her head. She tells Liz that she was tired of being “the girl with the perfect hair” and tired of being treated like a sex object (said while wearing fishnet stockings and a tight black dress). Dawn is now closer to Shawna-Marie than Liz after Liz spent the summer in Manitoba: they meditate and do yoga together and worked together at the hard ice cream counter for the whole month of August, getting “pipes”. Liz tries to convince herself that she’s too mature and independent to be jealous of their closeness, then flops over her bed, alone, totally bummed, but not jealous. Elly tells John to leave Liz alone for a little while because she’s depressed: “Again?” he asks, pointing out that she has a good home, nice room, good family, nice friends, a good school, sings in the choir, swims at the “Y”…Elly says that Liz doesn’t feel like she belongs anywhere. Liz heads for the mall to decide whether to get her nose or navel pierced. She runs into Miss Edwards who acts as her sounding board and tells Liz that they can be friends now that she’s no longer Liz’s teacher; Liz decides against piercing anything, happy that she now has everything she needs as her favourite teacher now wants to be her friend. Nonetheless, a few weeks, Liz dyes her hair “Golden Burgundy” – it comes out purple. 

Weed’s skill with the camera is improving and he imagines himself being sent to places like Somalia, Bosnia “an’” Iran one day, but leaves the Bung and Wattle pub when a fight looks liable to begin. It isn’t long before Mike runs into Deanna on campus and she asks him if he remembers her – she later admits that it was a planned accident that she just happened to be in the student newspaper office at the same time he was. She also wants to know why he didn’t call her and he asks what he could have said to her after she told him that she was getting married. Deanna suggests that he could have said, “Wait”, explaining that, during her recovery, she began to admit that she wasn’t ready for marriage, so called off the wedding and returned the ring. Mike asks Deanna out for diner, lunch, anything, finally settling on a walk before her evening class. He boasts to Weed, who reminds him that he claimed to be a “one-woman man” and currently is dating Rhetta. Mike insists that this is just a platonic reunion between two old friends, but borrows Weed’s aftershave. Before he leaves, he decides to be honest with Rhetta and phones her, only to learn that she is out with another guy. After a successful walk around campus with Deanna, a lovesick Mike e-mails Rhetta to tell her that he knows about the other guy and says thanks to her, ostensibly for letting him pursue Deanna guilt-free.

John drops by Gord’s Garage to look over the books and finds that Gord is already breaking even after the expansion and hiring a new man. Tracey tells Elly that she’s about 3 months pregnant: the outcome of their time in the Muskokas. The parents-to-be are excited and terrified, but hope they’ll be ready by the due date of mid-April. Tracey points out that their apartment barely has room for the two of them, and Elly assures her that they’ll manage, after all, when Mike was born, she and John had to let him to sleep in a bureau drawer until they could afford a crib. Mike and Lawrence spend the New Year with Gord and Tracey at the apartment, where Gord has moved his “office” into the tiny attic to make room for the baby furniture his parents have bought. They catch up on former classmates, with Lawrence telling Gord that Allyson, his “old flame”, has married someone she knew for only three months. Mike reminded Gord that Allyson always wanted to get married and Tracey points out that she was always looking through bride books, which is a rather odd pastime for a high-school student, but anyway…Brian is going into computer animation, Brad Luggsworth has enlisted in the Air Force and Rhetta finished her business course and started working for her father. Lawrence asks Gord for advice on starting his own business, now that there’s room for another landscaper in the city, and after a few years away, he’s certain that he wants to stay in Milborough. The friends promise not to drift apart and Lawrence reminds them that “all roads lead to home”. 

Recurring themes / This strip conserves punchlines

I don’t understand this modern technology stuff: Elly is frustrated by the computerized stock system at the bookstore and Moira says that she’ll not buy a computer until they’re made by Fisher-Price.

Teenagers are moody: Another back to school shopping expedition with Liz and Elly unable to agree on anything, so Elly finally just gives Liz some money and lets her do her own shopping. Liz returns home empty-handed, as it’s no fun shopping by herself.  

Homesickness: Mike gets an e-mail from Liz full of all the Milborough news and feels homesick.

Puns: April says that Becky has “bump beds” because she always bumps her head on the top one. 

Swearing bad: April overhears teens swearing and repeats the words despite knowing that she shouldn’t: she was just testing Elly. Elly tells her that such words are low-class and vulgar. 

John can’t dress himself: Elly tries to get John to get rid of his favourite old sweater because it has a few holes in it, and let her buy him a new one. He says that he’s wearing it in his workshop where no one will see it, it’s warm, comfy and fits him. Liz compares it to a teddy bear.

Trust in fate: Mike wonders if Deanna’s accident was fate bringing them back together again. When he can’t decide between Deanna and Rhetta, he decides to see where the car goes (the Pattersons own a sentient car?) and winds up at Deanna’s. 

Miscellaneous: As depicted when they went to Barbados, Elly and John are easily identified as new arrivals to their tropical resort because they don’t have suntans. Connie and Elly sit around complaining about their health and drinking coffee repeatedly, even though Elly insists that they aren’t going to be the sort of people who do exactly that.

And finally, one strip I just loved: April makes herself a peanut butter and honey sandwich and a moody Liz says sarcastically, “Thanks for making me one”. April dutifully makes a sandwich for Liz, who takes a bite and spits it out, shouting that it was peanut butter and onion. April replies that Liz never asked for the same kind of sandwich.  Go April!  I knew the babytalk was just a ruse to keep them from knowing how smart you really are!




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[info]aprilp_katje
2008-10-02 03:09 pm UTC (link)
I can't help but wonder what the strip would be like if it had been a strange man approaching April when Elly wasn't looking.

Naturally, Edgar would have come bounding into the store (or whatever other location was involved), biting the bad man, alerting Elly, and promptly dying of exhaustion. ;)

Mike suggests “Stew” as a name.

Ugh, how I hate Mike. >:-(

Trust in fate: Mike wonders if Deanna’s accident was fate bringing them back together again. When he can’t decide between Deanna and Rhetta, he decides to see where the car goes (the Pattersons own a sentient car?) and winds up at Deanna’s.

I can't even express how much I detest the Pattersonian leave-it-to-fate mentality. At least Dee wasn't buying into it. This should have raised a red flag for her!

April replies that Liz never asked for the same kind of sandwich. Go April! I knew the babytalk was just a ruse to keep them from knowing how smart you really are!

Awesome. At age five, April was already smarter than fifteen-or-sixteen-year-old Liz. ;)

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[info]forworse
2008-10-02 03:18 pm UTC (link)
I can't even express how much I detest the Pattersonian leave-it-to-fate mentality.

Agreed. It's as if they can't make a decision lest it upset one of Lynn's faithful readers, so they just bumble passively through life, leaving major decisions to fate or having some minor character come magically to the rescue with free whatever.

I came across this link earlier today and wondered if John were here among us somewhere. Either way, it's fascinating reading from the oldest to newest as his original emjoyment of the strip fades. It isn't snark, just an honest representation of what has happened to the majority of us as our disillusionment grew (and grew and grew and...).

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[info]apologyhat
2008-10-02 05:24 pm UTC (link)
If I recall correctly, the strip after Mike's "strange. . . it's taking me to Deanna's!" one (if you can call it a strip; it's a one-off drawing prolly not published in the papers) shows Mike in the car, reading a map, which implies he DID want to visit Dee no a conscious level, and didn't actually believe in fate.

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[info]forworse
2008-10-02 05:52 pm UTC (link)
It does, you're right: it's a map clearly marked "Burlington".

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[info]aprilp_katje
2008-10-02 06:38 pm UTC (link)
Interesting. Inserting that probable one-off kind of makes it sound as though he's lying to himself--Liz style. ;)

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[info]muzition
2008-10-02 04:17 pm UTC (link)
I find it amusing that you have seen John's train costume as being important enough to be designated as a character.

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[info]forworse
2008-10-02 04:43 pm UTC (link)
I couldn't help it. John went from being JFTF to JSTF when he started wearing that thing. Several collections prior to this I had to put the Ellybun down as a recurring character too.

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[info]muzition
2008-10-02 04:21 pm UTC (link)
Dawn is good at piano because Asians are good at music.

Mel and Colleen Smith, and their two-month-old daughter, Tabitha Jayne, introduced only so John can make a horrible pun about “Come to me my Mel and Colleen’s baby”
Ugh! I hate it when people have certain names just as set-ups for bad puns. Too many jokes are like that.

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[info]forworse
2008-10-02 04:46 pm UTC (link)
Dawn is good at piano because Asians are good at music.

At some point in the future when Jim is teaching April how to play the guitar, Elly reminisces about Mike and his trumpet lessons and Liz and her piano lessons, and how she had to nag them to practise. When was it that the Pattersons had a piano? I mean, voice lessons I could understand because it was often shown and mentioned that Liz sang in a choir. But a piano? I suppose Lynn would either say that it was never seen because it was up against the fourth wall, or just send me an envelope of real Canadian air.

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[info]muzition
2008-10-02 05:02 pm UTC (link)
Well, it seems that a lot of people in general have pianos, even if they're not a particularly musical family.

I just wish I had a piano! Maybe I can have Elly's old one...

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[info]forworse
2008-10-02 05:40 pm UTC (link)
I'm not saying it would be out of character for them to have a piano, just that it's unusual that we never see it. Piano lessons could have been a whole story arc: for instance, I used to ensure that I scheduled my practising for whenever my sister wanted to watch something on TV, as both the piano and TV were in the living room and my parents would always take my side because they were paying for my piano lessons and wanted to see me practising. Not to mention annual (or, more properly, six-monthly) storylines about waiting around for the piano tuner. And let's not forget dusting the piano: Elly could have something new to complain about. Finally, the rabbit on the keyboard: priceless fridge-worthy cartoons for KAN, who can all relate to the time their rabbit pooped on the Steinway too.

All that said, I love having a piano -- for years I had an electric keyboard because I could play it with headphones and it was fairly portable, but to get a proper acoustic one was always an ambition. Now if only I could find the time to play, but is cutting down on web use an option? :)

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[info]kerssido
2008-10-03 01:23 am UTC (link)
They have excellent hearing because they're blind!

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"wait"
(Anonymous)
2008-10-02 04:39 pm UTC (link)
Ugh - I'd forgotten Deanna told Mike he "should have told her to wait" - WT*^%$$# ? If I met an elementary-school crush and they said they were getting married, I'd say "congrats". I wouldn't presume that I knew the years of history that had gotten them to that point. It would have been a truly selfish thing for Mike to say - because it would be a request only for his benefit, and not taking any consideration of Deanna as a person with her own life and desires.

I'd say the message was that it wasn't Deanna's responsibility to figure out whether she was ready for marriage, she first had to wait for every past crush to tell her it was OK - except that off-panel she did think it out. Still, this leaves me disgusted, because it starts the theme that Granthony continued with his (incredibly selfish, dishonourable, and hypocritical [after saying he was trying to save his marriage]) "wait" to Liz.

CanuckDownSouth

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Re: "wait"
[info]dreadedcandiru2
2008-10-02 07:27 pm UTC (link)
I wonder what trauma in Lynn's past made her think that that was how things were supposed to go. It seems to me that she thinks that making decisions and having a uterus clash; why else would she let Rod pay her an allowance like a little girl?

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Re: "wait"
(Anonymous)
2008-10-03 04:20 pm UTC (link)
You know, I take back that the strip doesn't show that it wasn't Deanna's responsibility to be sure she was right about getting married. She said Mike could have told her "wait". In other words, instead of Mike leaving her be as a *decent* thing, he *burdened* her by not telling her to wait. It was supposed to be a Bad Thing that Mike left her to *gasp* figure out on her own whether her engagement was right or not. Grrrr.

I think I've figured out why I didn't want Paul or Warren to be an option for Liz in Foob's Paradise - to counter strips like this.

I wonder if poor LJ thought she should have been rescued from her relationships (before getting married) by someone better.

CanuckDownSouth

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Re: "wait"
[info]dreadedcandiru2
2008-10-03 04:24 pm UTC (link)
Quite possibly. Anything to avoid being a 'bad' girl and taking the initiative.

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Re: "wait"
[info]howtheduck
2008-10-03 10:41 pm UTC (link)
It was supposed to be a Bad Thing that Mike left her to *gasp* figure out on her own whether her engagement was right or not.

Yes. I remember running across this after Anthony did his "Wait!" request for Liz. Anthony said, "Wait!" and was not criticized for it (in the strip), while Mike failed to say "Wait!" and was criticized for it. Somewhere in Lynn Johnston's background, asking someone to wait when one or the other person is in a committed relationship, is somehow supposed to be the thing to do.

If I take this to the Anthony / Liz situation, his request for Liz to "Wait!" must have been considered to be extremely romantic in the mind of Lynn Johnston. She must have been very surprised when she found out that the same moment which assured the romance for Liz and Anthony in her mind, was also the same moment when her fan base turned against Anthony Caine forever. This use of "Wait!" as a romantic device, has to be the singlemost point where she and her audience are of differing minds.

It's been years now, I still cannot fathom how that was a romantic moment. And yet, thanks to the Mike and Deanna example, I know that it was supposed to be that way.

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Re: "wait"
[info]shoebox2
2008-10-04 02:44 am UTC (link)
I can just about see the outlines of the romantic concept: As we know, in the Patterworld, everyone has a True Love, a Destined...er...Working Partner in Life. 'Wait!' signifies your recognition of this in regards the waitee, and by extension, your desire to be ultimately faithful to them no matter what obstacles may be or come.

In this context, Mike not telling Dee to wait is a dreadful betrayal, and Anthony's 'passionate' affirmation of same to Liz the ultimate tribute. (Yes, this means Therese is reduced to a mere speed bump on the way to Lizthony's Fate. You're surprised?)

Security as the highest expression of romance...Makes quite a lot of sense in terms of what we know about Lynn's POV, actually. Not surprising at all that the majority of her undamaged readers felt bored at best and betrayed at worst.

Edited at 2008-10-04 02:51 am UTC

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Re: "wait"
[info]howtheduck
2008-10-04 11:13 pm UTC (link)
Here you have the sad part about not continuing the modern strips.

Imagine the moment where little Francie and little Robin are playing with each other, in the presence of Mike and Elizabeth. Then little Francie and little Robin ask each other to wait for each other to get married when they are older. Cut over to Michael and Elizabeth gasping at the "wait" word. It would have been a great moment.

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[info]ushiramen
2008-10-02 06:26 pm UTC (link)
Tracey points out that she was always looking through bride books, which is a rather odd pastime for a high-school student, but anyway…

Wait... I looked through bride books in high school...
and MY name is Allison...
OMG!!! Lynn has a camera in my house!!!! (and my life isn't even good enough to be a major character :( )

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[info]viorica8957
2008-10-02 06:26 pm UTC (link)
and tired of being treated like a sex object (said while wearing fishnet stockings and a tight black dress).

Ugh, I've always hated that strip. It's far too close to the "Women who wear revealing clothes bring unwanted attention on themselves!!11!1" school of thought.

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[info]cookie77
2008-10-02 07:51 pm UTC (link)
That strip is why I call BS on the later revelation that Candace's real reason for shaving her head was so her stepdad (or mom's boyfriend) would not molest her. In addition to the provocative clothing, her face was also beautifully made up.

We're getting closer and closer to the turning point. At the time Candace shaved her head, it made perfect sense at face value. She'd always been the trendsetter, always been more striking than the other girls in her grade and most of her school. But when others started catching up, she had to do something to keep her place at the front of the pack. Nothing more than that.

I think Lives Behind the Lines was the turning point, actually. That's the book with all the backstories. Which meant Lynn could go for broke and throw in all these details, whether or not they were consistent with what had been seen in the strip. What she says in LBtL about Candace does not make sense. If she was really being molested, she would not have said "This is who I am," with her hip thrust out defiantly. She would either have followed the headshaving with baggy clothes and no makeup, or she would have started REALLY acting out. According to the thirty-seconds-a-day version of events, she shaved her head because it was the newest latest, and it had been a while since she'd turned others' heads. And that's what I choose to believe.

So only a couple more collections, if that, before the characters start telling instead of showing, and telling only the glurgiest, most over-wrought, contrived motivations.

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[info]apologyhat
2008-10-02 08:38 pm UTC (link)
The strips in this collection also counterdict the story of Weed in Lives Behind the Lines--in that little pre-bio, LJ says that, by the tmie Weed and Mike met, he's already decided he wanted to be a professional photographer, and had worked full time as an apprentice or something to a photographer. Yet, this collection implies that his photography was just a silly hobby, and once he got older, he started to take it more seriously.

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[info]apologyhat
2008-10-02 07:15 pm UTC (link)
"Liz tries to convince herself that she’s too mature and independent to be jealous of their closeness"

Ugh. Please, Liz--she's just as needy and babyish in this collection as she is in every other, except for maybe a month or two in Mtigwaki.

"It isn’t explained how. . . "

I also wonder why Elly even remembers Deanna's name, fifteen or so years after having seen her last. Elly probs met her once at the Halloween dance where she and Mike won the costume contest, and I think Mike said the name once when he got her school picture from Lawrence, but other than that, it wasn't as if the two of them were close friends, or played together after school. My mom has a great memory, and I have a hard time believing she'd recognize a name like that fifteen years later, and then say, with certainty, "You know this person."
(on a related note, I like the name Deanna, and wish her name hadn't gotten shortened to the older-sounding and blander "Dee"--when did that happen? Once she got married? Or once Merrie was born?)

"Tracey points out that she was always looking through bride books"

And how would Tracey know this? She didn't hang out with her, or any of the other "popular" kids.

"Before he leaves, he decides to be honest with Rhetta and phones her, only to learn that she is out with another guy."

Isn't this kind of what Liz pulls with Warren? She goes on a "date" with him, promises to see him again, and then starts seeing someone else, with zero interest in telling Warren this fact until he drops in later.

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(Anonymous)
2008-10-03 04:24 am UTC (link)
"Tracey points out that she was always looking through bride books"

Eh. I knew what types of shit my idiot classmates were reading / keeping track of, and not because I necessarily wanted to, but because people talked about it. (really, did i *need* to know that much about kristina's v.c. andrews obsession? no. Would everyone else shut up about it? equally no.)

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(Anonymous)
2008-10-02 07:16 pm UTC (link)
Dawn gets her grade 10 in piano

What does this mean when translated into American English?

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[info]dreadedcandiru2
2008-10-02 07:30 pm UTC (link)
It means that the elective course she, a ninth-grader, passed was for tenth graders.

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[info]forworse
2008-10-02 08:12 pm UTC (link)
It's almost certainly a reference to the Royal Conservatory of Music piano grade, which is pretty much the standard system most Canadians follow when studying music -- it's a significant achievement for Dawn, especially as she is only in her mid-teens, and suggests a real talent and commitment on her part.

There's a bit about the requirements here.

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[info]apologyhat
2008-10-02 08:47 pm UTC (link)
It's also not a particularly popular goal
http://www.43things.com/things/view/382158/complete-my-grade-10-piano-exam

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[info]muzition
2008-10-03 02:24 pm UTC (link)
Except here in Quebec. Which I'm glad of somehow.

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[info]agent_squeaks
2008-10-03 04:12 am UTC (link)
Pity Mike's drive didn't take him back to his and Weed's apartment.

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[info]muzition
2008-10-03 02:21 pm UTC (link)
"Parky"?

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[info]muzition
2008-10-03 05:21 pm UTC (link)
Umm...can a wiener even fit in anyone's nostril?

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[info]muzition
2008-10-08 12:20 am UTC (link)
"Snelgroot"? "Booger"? Not more ugly, made-up names! Well, "Booger" isn't quite made-up, I suppose.

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