Easter ([info]_saint_cecilia_) wrote in [info]b0st0n,
@ 2007-10-05 11:05:00
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No Help From 911
As I'm sure many of you know, the Orange Line had massive problems this morning, with several disabled trains and thousands of inconvenienced commuters, to whom it was suggested (though not officially advised) that they exit at Community College, walk Prison Point Bridge and O'Brien Highway to get to the Sciene Park station, and thereby make it into town sometime before Christmas.

As we walked down the right side of the bridge the sidewalk disapeared, as it was in the middle of massive construction. There were no police or city authorities present. Tons of people were hopping the barricade and running across the traffic. When I saw a guy with a stiff artificial leg try to do this, I called 911 to request police crossing guards.

Here's the truly amazing part. The state 911 transfered me to city 911, and the city 911 operator couldn't figure out where I was.



My cell was transmitting from a tower which was apparently in Roxbury. I explained the "nature of the emergency", and explained that I was not in Roxbury.

+"I'm at Community College Station, the Orange Line."

-(witheringly)"M'am, do you know how many thousands of community colleges there are in Boston?"

+There are hundreds of nearby colleges, maybe not thousands...and far fewer in the CITY juristiction...and there's only one Community College Station. Near Bunker Hill Community College."

-"Where's that?"

+"Under Prison Point Bridge."

-"Where's that?"

+"Perpendicular to 93"

-"Perpen what?"

+"Nevermind. I'm turning left onto O'Brien Highway."

-"Where's that?"

+"Across from North Point Park."

-"I thought you were on a highway?"

+"I'm walking to Science Park Station, the second to last green line stop. Send somone northbound on the Green Line and look for the PARADE OF PEOPLE."

-"You're not making any sense."

+"Zakim Bridge to my left across the water! Science Museum to my right! Major Storrow Drive intersection in front of me where a HUNDRED people are currently crossing AGAINST the light! Don't you have a MAP over there?!"

-"No M'am."

+"Fine. Enjoy cleaning the blood off Leverett Circle."

-"Where is Lever-"

*CLICK!*

The level of authoritarian incompetence in this city is truly astounding.
I called 911 back and requested METRO police, who said they'd send a unit.

Anyone else have 911 issues? What do you do in that frustrated heat-of-the moment? Am I in my rights to ask for an incompetent dispatcher's idenity?
And did everyone make it in safely this morning?

Incidently, we couldn't get on at Science Park because the crowding caused a medical emergency (people had fainted.) I led a growing gypsy band all the way to North Station, and we got on the green line there.



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[info]tanpiover2
2007-10-05 03:23 pm UTC (link)
You should have told them you'd seen a hoax device!

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[info]pushupstairs
2007-10-05 03:24 pm UTC (link)
seriously, if you said that, there probably would have been 300 cops within 90 seconds.

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[info]agharta75
2007-10-05 04:28 pm UTC (link)
The "hoax device" bullshit is to distract people from the city government/MBTA/state police/airport police/et cetera generalized incompetence. I'm sure of it.

But, everything will be made right once Governor "why the hell did I ever vote for you" Patrick brings casinos in. Ka-ching!!

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[info]driftingfocus
2007-10-05 05:03 pm UTC (link)
I love you?

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(no subject) - [info]tanpiover2, 2007-10-05 06:23 pm UTC

[info]pushupstairs
2007-10-05 03:23 pm UTC (link)
I can't believe that phone call is real.

but at the same time, I CAN believe it's real, because I know exactly how mind-numbingly stupid people in this area can be.

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[info]rufinia
2007-10-05 03:26 pm UTC (link)
...you know, I always thought that at least SOME knowledge of the georgraphy of the city would be important for 911 operators. Apparently not.

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[info]l_o_v_e
2007-10-05 03:26 pm UTC (link)
To be fair, the operator may not be in Massachusetts.




But seriously, google it for crying out loud? How frigging hard is it to take the address from someone, and google it!

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[info]_saint_cecilia_
2007-10-05 03:33 pm UTC (link)
Do they have computers with internet at 911 dispatch? I'm not even sure they do.
But if not that and not a physical map then what? I don't imagine a compass would do much good.

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(no subject) - [info]krank_kether, 2007-10-05 05:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]venus_orbiting, 2007-10-05 03:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dmcgettrick, 2007-10-05 04:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rufinia, 2007-10-05 03:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sirendipity, 2007-10-05 03:59 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]rufinia, 2007-10-05 04:09 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]sirendipity, 2007-10-05 04:21 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]ron_newman, 2007-10-05 04:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tanpiover2, 2007-10-05 04:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eeka13, 2007-10-05 04:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]l_o_v_e, 2007-10-05 04:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eeka13, 2007-10-05 04:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rufinia, 2007-10-05 04:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eeka13, 2007-10-05 05:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]xiphias, 2007-10-05 05:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]l_o_v_e, 2007-10-05 06:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gemini6ice, 2007-10-05 11:18 pm UTC

[info]cottonmanifesto
2007-10-05 03:27 pm UTC (link)
i am terrified and amused all at once.

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[info]venus_orbiting
2007-10-05 03:27 pm UTC (link)
Oh wow. Just... wow.

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[info]mperrotti76
2007-10-05 03:32 pm UTC (link)

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[info]tx
2007-10-05 03:32 pm UTC (link)
When did they start outsourcing to India?

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[info]xiphias
2007-10-05 05:52 pm UTC (link)
Oh, c'mon. Enough people in India went to school in Boston that I suspect an Indian person would do better than THAT.

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[info]shadows783
2007-10-05 03:35 pm UTC (link)
And here I was pissed off that I had to spend my morning commute on a shuttle bus. I got off lucky.

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[info]shadows783
2007-10-05 03:52 pm UTC (link)
That said, I did have to call 911 over the summer when a woman in a neck brace collapsed in front of me on a little-traveled street and started convulsing, and the man that I spoke to was quite wonderful. There is at least one good Boston 911 operator out there, for what it's worth.

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[info]watermarktrio
2007-10-05 03:47 pm UTC (link)
I had a similar problem with 911 in Philadelphia. I got assaulted in Fairmount Park, and gave them pretty specific landmarks for them to find me. They needed a cross-street or they couldnt come to me. Apparently saying "the only parking lot just north of the girard ave bridge" wasn't good enough.

Public Enemy was right, man.

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[info]mperrotti76
2007-10-05 03:59 pm UTC (link)
Girard Av. Ewww... What were you doing there anyway!?

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(no subject) - [info]watermarktrio, 2007-10-05 04:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]_saint_cecilia_, 2007-10-05 04:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]watermarktrio, 2007-10-05 04:01 pm UTC
Ah, in that case... - [info]_saint_cecilia_, 2007-10-05 04:08 pm UTC

[info]volare
2007-10-05 03:53 pm UTC (link)
should send this to Globe Spotlight. that's just atrocious.

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[info]citeyoursources
2007-10-05 04:21 pm UTC (link)
Also the Menino column in the Metro if that's still running.

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(no subject) - [info]agharta75, 2007-10-05 04:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]volare, 2007-10-05 04:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ron_newman, 2007-10-05 04:47 pm UTC

[info]kpht
2007-10-05 03:57 pm UTC (link)
There's like, 15 community colleges in the whole state. None which would accept this lady.

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[info]krank_kether
2007-10-05 05:26 pm UTC (link)
your icon makes me think that Ricky could do better at 911 dispatch.. or maybe Bubbles.

"What? Just smoke some dope and forget about it for fuck's sake"

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Bubbles - [info]dianalily, 2007-10-05 06:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kpht, 2007-10-05 08:32 pm UTC

[info]snowwand
2007-10-05 04:14 pm UTC (link)
Who told you to get off at CC? We were told to go straight to North and change there.

Of course, that didn't stop a bunch of idiots from getting on our train and sitting down.

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[info]_saint_cecilia_
2007-10-05 05:01 pm UTC (link)
My train couldn't even make it to North Station because I think there was a disabled train just after Community (a new addition to the original problem, which I think was a disabled train at Chinatown.)

But yeah, the conducter thought he was doing us a favor by suggesting we walk, but he didn't know the street conditions and I doubt he fully envisioned the mass exodus he created.

Bottom line, his first call should have been to police saying "Let's give these people the option to walk, and let's make it safe." It would have taken 10 extra minutes (or 10 minutes of forethought) and two or three crossing guards.

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(no subject) - [info]snowwand, 2007-10-05 05:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]belladonna, 2007-10-05 06:00 pm UTC

[info]ron_newman
2007-10-05 04:30 pm UTC (link)
As far as I know, there are only two community colleges in Boston. Both happen to be on the Orange Line. The other one is Roxbury Community College, next to Roxbury Crossing station.

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[info]ron_newman
2007-10-05 04:32 pm UTC (link)
This really sounds like you somehow got transferred to a 911 operator for a city other than Boston. I've heard cell phones do a lousy job of finding the correct place to send 911 calls.

By the way, it's now called the Gilmore Bridge rather than Prison Point Bridge. (Whether that would have helped, I don't know.)

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[info]_saint_cecilia_
2007-10-05 04:45 pm UTC (link)
I bet you're right and that went a long way in creating the initial confusion. Although once I said "Zakim" you'd think the crackerjack city employee would've detected a clue (or at least transfered me to someone who had a clue.)

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(no subject) - [info]ron_newman, 2007-10-05 04:51 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]_saint_cecilia_, 2007-10-05 05:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ron_newman, 2007-10-05 05:07 pm UTC
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[info]shb80
2007-10-05 04:36 pm UTC (link)
Dispatchers are just fat pigs that wanted to be cops or firefighters when they were kids and they didn't have what it takes to be one cause the couldn't change their buffet molestation habits. Send a bouquet of Ho Ho's to the dispatch center as a gesture of thanks :-P

PiP,MoO!!

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[info]eeka13
2007-10-05 04:51 pm UTC (link)
I once called the mayor's hotline because they hadn't plowed most of my neighborhood and the entire intersection of Columbus Ave/Tremont St/Malcolm X was a sheet of ice and people were sliding across it and falling in the paths of swerving cars.

Got transferred to public works, who didn't know where this intersection was. I told her it's right at Roxbury Crossing. She told me Roxbury Crossing wasn't in Boston, and I'd need to call my town. I told her my property tax bill comes from Boston and I vote for the Boston mayor, so I'm pretty sure my neighborhood is in Boston. She said something about it being in Beverly. Seriously. I'm finally like, "you live in Boston and DON'T KNOW WHERE COLUMBUS AVE OR TREMONT STREET IS?! They're a couple of the main drags through the city." "Uh, no ma'am, you're going to need to give me a clearer location."

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Get a Clue
[info]_saint_cecilia_
2007-10-05 05:11 pm UTC (link)
In a moment of (admittedly non-constructive) jocular inspiration I might have said to her:
"I'm in the kitchen with the candlestick, and you lose."
hehe

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HEE - [info]eeka13, 2007-10-05 05:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kpht, 2007-10-05 08:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eeka13, 2007-10-05 08:36 pm UTC

[info]ericjay
2007-10-05 05:10 pm UTC (link)
About a year ago, I called 911 from my cell phone after seeing an accident on Storrow Drive. I got transferred to the State Police, and stated my location as "Storrow Drive westbound, approximately 1/4 mile past the Hatch Shell."

The operator asked if I needed Boston PD, and I answered that I wasn't sure because I didn't know who would handle an accident on an MDC road (I realize that it's now DCR, not MDC - but still). She got quite frustrated with me, asking "Are you in the city of Boston or not?!" I told her that I was, and got transferred to Boston 911.

When I made the same report to the Boston 911 operator, he said that Storrow Drive was a matter for the state police. I told him that they were the ones who transferred me, so he suggested that I hang up and call back to speak with them! I did just that, and got a different operator at State Police, who was much more helpful. Overall, quite the frustrating situation, though.

Another thing that really pisses me off is Boston PD's policy that almost all business (emergent and non) needs to be handled by calling 911. Several times I've called their main 617 number for non-emergent issues and was told that I needed to hang up and dial 911. Meanwhile, surrounding cities and towns plead with residents to not use 911 except in true emergencies, and other major cities provide an alternate access number (311) for other business.

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[info]ifotismeni
2007-10-05 05:30 pm UTC (link)
Meanwhile, surrounding cities and towns plead with residents to not use 911 except in true emergencies, and other major cities provide an alternate access number (311) for other business.

YES, thank you, that's been bugging me ever since I moved closer to the area!

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(no subject) - [info]eeka13, 2007-10-05 05:42 pm UTC

[info]bikini_killl
2007-10-05 09:51 pm UTC (link)
i'm so happy i have a car.

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[info]jenskot
2007-10-06 03:48 am UTC (link)
Mmmm, almost as classy as the time the staties told me to go fuck myself when my car died in the middle of the SE Xway. :/

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[info]simply_juniper
2007-10-07 04:52 am UTC (link)
that was really good of you to call for a police crossing guards. sorry the operator obviously had no clue.

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[info]_saint_cecilia_
2007-10-07 07:36 am UTC (link)
thank you for the straightforward reassurance and the empathy- i didn't even realize how much i needed it until you were kind enough to provide it :)

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(no subject) - [info]simply_juniper, 2007-10-09 09:34 pm UTC

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