b0st0n: Public floggings should occur for the fo

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cosinezero) wrote in

b0st0n,
@ 2007-01-31 22:22:00

Public floggings should occur for the following:

1. Any politician who says anything to the effect of "They don't call it *guerilla* advertising because it's not meant to terrorize people!" (heard today).

2. Any reporter / newscaster who refers to this incident as "a hoax".

Also, in all fairness we should have some praise for the BPD. I will note that many other cities still had not found these devices... and say what you will, it IS valid for the PD to be very concerned about an electronic device attached to the underside of a bridge. Maybe in a pre-9/11 world they could have looked the other way here, but I don't fault them for taking all precautions needed.

Maybe they should have figured out it wasn't a bomb and calmed the fuck down, but it's perfectly valid for them to think "Hey, this one isn't a bomb - but any of the ten others might be."

That said... I'm rather disappointed that mumbles and deval didn't have the wherewithall to back off and admit that this wasn't a malicious attack (despite the finger from the moon.)

It'll be funny to see how far up the court system this goes. I highly doubt there's much more than *civil* lawsuits to be had (IE, no criminal charges). Highly, highly doubt it.

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	mistergoat 2007-02-01 03:39 am UTC (link)
	1. Any politician who says anything to the effect of "They don't call it guerilla* advertising because it's not meant to terrorize people!" (heard today).* Who? Where? I really really wanna know which of our politicians is that big a moron. Was it Feeney? Come on, WHO?? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	fuzzbucketdeux 2007-02-01 03:40 am UTC (link)
	George Feeney? (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	mistergoat 2007-02-01 03:47 am UTC (link)
	I was thinking more of Maureen Feeney, the city council president. She was my councilor when I lived in the neighborhood, and she didn't do shit for it. Her staff wouldn't even call people back. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	cosinezero 2007-02-01 03:54 am UTC (link)
	It was an adviser for mumbles' office talking to Jim Braude tonight... as bad as the 'hoax' media scare stories are, people who mistake 'guerilla' for 'terrorism' that may at some point have to distinguish between the two need to be removed from office. (Reply to this) (Parent)

kpht
2007-02-01 03:40 am UTC (link)

Mike tells me the kid who got arrested is here from Belarus on political asylum. He sounds particularly extremely fucked.

I absolutely agree with what you say here, however, the intense *fanfare* with which this happened was ridiculous, as I said before to

anomie666. The remaining devices should have been taken down quietly and with caution, not screaming fear from the rooftops after everyone knew what was going down. They obviously knew this was a marketing stunt and figured they'd milk the costs because eventually, they'd get it back in a lawsuit.

I'm just amazed at how computerlike and inhuman the departments involved were in this situation. There's caution, and then there's this sorry situation.

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derspatchel
2007-02-01 03:43 am UTC (link)

Suffolk District Attorney Daniel Conley called on the public to hold Turner accountable.

"Everyone can play a part by holding Turner Broadcasting to account for today's events. Viewers, advertisers, license holders, can and should make clear to them this sort of behavior is reckless, irresponsible and illegal," Conley said.

Suddenly since Turner is involved, we should all gang up on them cause it was a MEAN OL CORPORATION that did it.

Meanwhile, the kid's sittin in jail right now looking at court time tomorrow.

Man, we're quickly running out of lulz here.

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cosinezero
2007-02-01 03:51 am UTC (link)

I think it's not a good idea to hold turner responsible either. Maybe if they -looked- like bombs, but they really don't. The images of the devices on TV made it hard to think they were meant to be thought to be bombs.

I too feel for the artist; hopefully turner hooks him up with a great lawyer and this all goes away. If he's lucky, he'll come out of this with a great wikipedia entry... and a big notch on his resume.

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	mistergoat 2007-02-01 03:46 am UTC (link)
	He's not a citizen? Lord. As an asylee, he may be slightly better off than your average green-card holder, but I'm not sure. Situation's fucked either way. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	cosinezero 2007-02-01 03:52 am UTC (link)
	Well, the fanfare was largely from CNN/Globe/Media trying to make this into something big. The BPD probably let them know as soon as they knew it was a hoax - and frankly, many of the media outlets were tripping over themselves trying to figure out what the hell was the real story. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	phatmike 2007-02-01 03:54 am UTC (link)
	it wasnt announced till around 6pm that the city accepted that it was a hoax.... (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	cosinezero 2007-02-01 03:56 am UTC (link)
	Still was the media really making a big deal out of it. If it wasn't -turner-, I bet FoxNews wouldn't have been all over this as much. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	uandursister 2007-02-01 03:20 pm UTC (link)
	It also wasn't until 5pm that Turner called Boston PD. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ionnokx 2007-02-01 05:39 am UTC (link)
	you just referred to it as a "hoax" (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	kpht 2007-02-01 04:36 am UTC (link)
	No kidding. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	derspatchel 2007-02-01 03:46 am UTC (link)
	No, but they will use us to launch their attacks on NYC. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	phatmike 2007-02-01 04:04 am UTC (link)
	that's okay. we hate them and the yankees anyway. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	cosinezero 2007-02-01 03:47 am UTC (link)
	Honestly, I think it'd be naive to think that terrorists wouldn't happily kill -americans-. Boston is no exception to that. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	billetdoux 2007-02-01 06:48 am UTC (link)
	Dude it was an electronic device, yes, but it was also a giant fucking flashing light, dying to be seen. How on earth do you know the other cities didn't find them? Maybe they just weren't stupid enough to think that a bomber would hide his bomb with a bunch of lights on it, in plain sight. (Reply to this)

	bodhisoma 2007-02-01 04:46 pm UTC (link)
	It's not that the other cities didn't find the mooninites, it's that the other cities didn't have any problem realzing that it wasn't a bomb. Jason (Reply to this) (Thread)

	cosinezero 2007-02-01 04:55 pm UTC (link)
	I look at it differently. I would expect our authorities to consider it a bomb until it's proven that it's not. An electrical device stuck to a bridge? Do please get the bomb squad out and check it. That's what we pay them for. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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