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http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/070208kvuereport-bkm.190058a1.html

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A new report from Allstate Insurance says Austin drivers are the most
accident prone in Texas.

The national report used insurance claims data to measure the rate of
collisions in America’s largest 200 cities.

Drivers in Houston, Dallas and San Antonio all got in accidents more
often than your average American.

But Austin was the worst. Local drivers are 35-percent more likely
to be in an accident that the average U.S. driver. Austinites get in
a wreck every 7.4 years.

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[info]sadraele wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 12:31 pm (UTC)
Oh, joy. up go the insurance rates now that they have an excuse.
[info]revrb wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 12:37 pm (UTC)
TOLD you Austin couldn't drive for shit.
[info]spamchang wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 01:28 pm (UTC)
any breakdown on the causes of said crashes? i would guess either the 6th street effect or the tech-multitasking effect...
[info]camelot_one wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 01:34 pm (UTC)
I have lived all over the country, and I can say with absolute certainty that the cause of the problem isn't that drivers here are any worse than other places. It's the city/street/highway planning itself that is to blame for the difference in the number of accidents.

Now I'm not saying Austin drivers are great, they aren't. In fact they suck. But drivers in every major city suck, it's just the law of numbers. The ratio of crap drivers to good drivers is constant, but when you put more total drivers on the road, obviously that means more crap drivers too.

Austin is by far the worst city I've ever seen in terms of signs, insane turn lane schemes, and highway on/off ramps. A person should be able to drive from one end of a road to the other without changing lanes, without a through lane turning into a turn only lane with no more than 500ft warning, and there should never be on ramps and off ramps within the same mile on opposite sides of the highway.
[info]lihan161051 wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 01:53 pm (UTC)
Most of this is due to extremely poor street and highway planning, as well as construction that has lagged far behind population growth since at least the 1980's. Austin's streets were adequate for when it was a small town of about 100,000 until about that point (I was born here, and I'm still used to thinking of Austin as a small town), and when I was first learning to drive, the whole driving culture here was completely different from what it is now, and collisions were so rare they almost always got some sort of mention in the news.

The problem now is that we now have almost 8-10 times as many people trying to use the same streets and highways, for the most part, and a lot of those people are relative newcomers from other areas of the country, so there's a lot more diversity and variation in driving styles, and some of the "imported" driving behaviors are a dangerous combination of aggressive, impatient, and inattentive that is bad enough in an environment of perfectly designed streets, highways, and intersections. When you combine that with death-trap intersections like the northbound "ramp" from the 183/Lamar intersection onto North Lamar that merges right at a T intersection with Powell Lane (whose brilliant idea that was, I'll never know), it's no wonder we have a bad reputation for unsafe traffic. And it would be appallingly expensive to re-engineer it all to a consistent standard and fix 20+ years of band-aid fixes and haphazard designs and various engineers' pet schemes that are incompatible with each other, even if we didn't have to keep upgrading highways far beyond their original planned capacity.

Most of this will settle down as soon as the city stops growing at the insane rate it currently is. But that's going to be a while, apparently we're a popular place to live these days. (Ask anyone who has any notion of buying a house here that's actually *in* Austin, let alone actually close to the center of town.)
[info]brandyeileen wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 04:51 pm (UTC)
I hear you. Also, I personally think a decent amount of those wrecks are from people who aren't from Austin. I mean, I know all the ways to go to avoid those nasty spots, and I routinely use them. Most of the roads just aren't constructed with massive amounts of people in mind. Even those that should have been, which accommodate semi traffic through aren't amenable to a lot traffic including those just traveling through. I wish they'd cut the fare rate a bit for semis, and force them to take 130 around the city.

I commute the length of IH-35 and I can vouch for the problems caused by on-ramps that are too short, causing people to jump over the left, which makes people slam on their brakes and jump the the left, etc, until someone can't see around a semi or their blind spot and WHAM. See it almost happen countless times a day.
[info]fairgoldberry wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 02:19 pm (UTC)
Yeah. This is one of the most oddly-designed cities I've ever set a foot in.

I routinely find myself going, "Hey, holy crap! Where did that lane full of cars come from that wasn't there ten seconds ago?" or "Uh, shouldn't there have been a sign mentioning that all the lanes of the frontage road shunt straight onto the Interstate here (a scooter-driving friend found herself very abruptly on the highway for that reason)?"

I've gotten used to some of the worst ones because I drive them often, but I'm still kind of apprehensive when I drive somewhere new in town. Last weekend I spent fifteen minutes trying to get to an apartment complex at 183 and 35 because the road wasn't marked, none of the nearby streets went through, and the exit options were to either get off five streets before the turn or ten feet after it...I had to drive around in almost a spiral, getting closer and closer, because even retracing my steps was too confusing and poorly signed. I'm sure that a good half the people whipping across my lane of traffic to an exit are acting in the desperation that the exit will vanish, Brigadoon-like into the mists for another hundred years, if they don't get to it on this go-round instead of coming back for it.
[info]xulong wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 05:23 pm (UTC)
I don't think austin is nearly as bad as san antonio.
[info]thatvoiceguy wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 05:48 pm (UTC)
I've been mulling a scooter or motorcycle to save gas, but drivers + WTF street design = trepidation.
[info]revrb wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 03:30 pm (UTC)
Oh, I'm with you on that one. I think any major reconfiguration of Austin's major roadways would throw the city into absolute misery and chaos. Like SXSW that never goes away.
[info]prometheandrone wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 06:17 pm (UTC)
Man I agree. Every time I try to go to a 'new' place I haven't been before I get so frustrated. Maps don't even help when the streets don't have signs, or the same street has three different names, or it suddenly turns into a one-way street, or doesn't intersect a cross-street. Plus the roads are bumpy as hell and some of the elevation changes are rather abrupt.
[info]fag_daddy wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 10:07 pm (UTC)
Those 5-way intersections are awesome!
[info]seridia wrote:
Jul. 4th, 2008 02:56 pm (UTC)
Those are my favorite, haha!
[info]thatvoiceguy wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 02:31 pm (UTC)
I've always said that if I ever get that time machine built, one of my first acts will be to go back and fire every City Manager we've had over the last 30 years or so.

Not that it would magically turn Austin into an urban-planning utopia, but many of these people needed to be canned just on G.P.
[info]lihan161051 wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 03:11 pm (UTC)
Fire the "we can make Austin grow the way we want it to" city managers of the early 80's, and sit the rest of the council down and tell them that the city is going to grow to the size of San Antonio or Houston over the next few decades, and they can either get in on the ground floor and put a comprehensive traffic and growth plan in place then and there, or spend those decades playing an endless game of catch-up.

(The city really did have this insane idea that it could limit growth and force new construction to be done in the areas it wanted it to be in, and keep it out of other areas, and still seems to be desperately holding onto that idea even now. So instead of actually managing the city with growth in mind, they've more or less been in a state of denial about the demands that growth is placing on the city, so we fall farther and farther behind on basic infrastructure that's been needing to be upgraded for longer than most people have been living here.)

It really didn't help when large numbers of people displaced by Katrina (and, to a lesser extent, Rita) moved into east and central Texas and ended up staying here. The traffic in Austin got noticeably worse during and after the Katrina evacuation .. and just failed to get better again afterward, because a lot of people moved here from there and stayed. That growth spike in particular really destabilized a lot of things around here.
[info]reanimated wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 02:35 pm (UTC)
o_0 yowza. not surprised either.
[info]scorpionis wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 03:07 pm (UTC)
That doesn't surprise me at all. I'd rather drive in LA than here. At least there everyone knows what the rules are, even if they're going 90 while they do it.
[info]reanimated wrote:
Jul. 3rd, 2008 03:48 pm (UTC)
lol i'd say the same for houston. but maybe that's just cause i'm used to it.
[info]deathofromeo wrote:
Jul. 5th, 2008 01:11 am (UTC)
ditto. I get way more pissed driving here than I ever do in Houston..
[info]nonstickpan wrote:
Jul. 4th, 2008 02:09 am (UTC)
People in Austin don't use their turn signals. It's infuriating. I've lived here my whole life and I swear it's become worse in the past 3 years. Or maybe it just pisses me off more.
[info]pasketti wrote:
Jul. 4th, 2008 04:34 am (UTC)
I posted this this morning.

This afternoon on the way home, I got rear-ended while sitting at a stoplight.
[info]imzadi wrote:
Jul. 4th, 2008 08:04 am (UTC)
Did you let that happen just to make a point? :)
[info]pasketti wrote:
Jul. 5th, 2008 03:42 am (UTC)
I was deficient in irony.
[info]seridia wrote:
Jul. 4th, 2008 02:59 pm (UTC)
That happened to me on Easter Sunday, and to my co-worker last week.
[info]princessbride42 wrote:
Jul. 4th, 2008 06:50 pm (UTC)
I think it also has to do with city driving (fast and aggressive) meeting country driving (slow, methodical). It's like Abilene meets LA or something.

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