maggie aka Captain Clueless ([info]akirou_chan) wrote in [info]asucaga,
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Translated by Milchstrasse on her LJ


* Again, don't take my word for this; if I got anything wrong, please tell me. Snippets of importance (not taken out of context, or at least I hope they aren't; I'm basing this on text that was snipped from an entire article):

アスメイは後日談のあの場では一緒にいたけど、これからどうなるかは分からない
いいコンビになるかもしれない、でも別の道をいくかもしれない
メイリンは気の強い女の子ばかりの中、アスランにとって癒される、安らげる、甘えられる女の子

"Athrun and Meyrin were together at the end, but whether they'll be a good pair or if they'll be going on their separate ways remains to be seen. Meyrin is -- in that circle of strong (not lit.) women -- a girl that Athrun can (not lit.) derive comfort from, a girl he can feel safe with, a girl he can depend on."


カガリはカガリなりにアスランに甘えてるけど、大人の男性に囲まれて育った子の甘え方なので、若いアスランには分からない、振り回される
プライドがあるから甘えたくても言えないが、当然アスランにも弱い部分はある
カガリに指輪を渡したのも精一杯甘えてアレ。でもカガリはそれを分かってない。
アスランはカガリが大事だし支えになりたいというのは生涯変わらないけど、本当に大変なときにはカガリに甘えるのは難しそう

"Cagalli, in her own way, depends on Athrun too, but as someone raised by adult males, her way of "depending" isn't clear to Athrun (who is a young male), and therefore doesn't get through to him. Athrun is confident and reluctant to admit that he wants to depend on someone even when he does want to; when like most other people, he also has a weakness. It (that weakness/need to depend on someone) was clearly shown when he gave Cagalli that ring. But Cagalli doesn't understand that. Cagalli is important to Athrun and he will always want to be there for her [note: Morosawa literally says "for life"], but when things get really tough it looks like it's hard (for him) to depend on her."

...If that doesn't make sense that means I either screwed up somewhere, or I can't find a good way to say it in English. Help.


メイリンは覚めた視点を持っていて、声高には言わないけど自分の判断はある
ゆっくり静かに、だけどしっかり見ていく子なので、彼女の側なら案外ゆっくり出来るか

"Meyrin is a __ person with her own sense of judgment, even though she doesn't voice out her thoughts that much. She's a girl who's patient and would quietly, but steadfastly? unswervingly? unwaveringly? look after Athrun, so he might be able to find peace of mind by her side."


知り合って好き合ってハッピーエンドって言うんじゃなくて、好きなもの同士でもその後お互いの周囲や別の面、現実が現れてくる
それでも揺るがないのが本物の愛情

"Athrun and Cagalli didn't meet, fall in love, and have a happy ending; they were bound by a mutual interest and subjected to each other's circles, hidden sides, truths. In spite of these (differences), the interest didn't waver; in that sense, it was real affection."


種段階ではだからまだまだ。お互いを知らなさ過ぎるので、その「好き」が盛り上がっての勘違いか本物かがまだ分からないよ、ということだった
取り巻く現実がキララク以上に難しいから

"When I said their love was a misunderstanding, I meant that they're only at the beginning; they know very little about each other, and therefore wouldn't be able to tell whether this "love" is the real thing or not. The circumstances they're in are far too complicated compared to Kira and Lacus's."

あの指輪の渡し方は最悪のケース、わざとそう書いたけど
あのときのアスランの心情は愛情というより不安
あの二人の恋はとてつもなく不安なもので、現実の激流の中で揺るがなかったら本物というあたりをデス種で書きたかった
だからデス種スタートの時は「勘違い」と言ったらびっくりされた
お互いが好きと言う気持ちはうまれたけど、まだ入り口
彼らなりの愛情があるはずで、それをふたりで見つけていかなきゃならない

"The way Athrun gave Cagalli the ring was the "worst case" [note: literally; I don't know what she means], though I meant for that (the ring-giving) to happen that way.
At the time Athrun was feeling more anxiety than love.
Athrun and Cagalli's romance is basically an unsure one (or one filled with uncertainty). I wanted to show in Destiny that if their bond remains despite the harshness of reality, it is true love.

{ So when I said "(this is a) misunderstanding" at the start of Destiny, some were surprised. } <-- I think this is wrong

They certainly like each other, but they've only just begun.
There's a kind of love that only they two can have, and they have to find it together."


私、あの二人の仲を引き裂こうとしていたわけではないし、彼らのことも好きなので誤解しないで

"I wasn't deliberately breaking the two apart, and I like them, so please don't misunderstand me."




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[info]rampant_geekery
2006-03-14 12:43 am UTC (link)
Someone's trying to cover her ass.XD

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[info]ryukkux
2006-03-14 01:03 am UTC (link)
Haha, I have to agree. The interview(?) made me chuckle a little.

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[info]rayealin
2006-03-14 05:24 am UTC (link)
What you said. Sounds like someone is trying to keep from getting attacked by rapid fans. It don't think this will help much though.

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[info]ladymadchan
2006-08-02 05:07 am UTC (link)
Or backpeddle... Really hard XD. Thanks for the posting!

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[info]jade_fragment
2006-03-14 01:27 am UTC (link)
Hm. Interesting. So maybe if there *is* a third series they'll have learned their lesson? o_O;;

But I agree. major ass-coverage! XD

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[info]snapple
2006-03-14 01:33 am UTC (link)
XD Even though I like this interview better, it made me laugh out loud so hard. She just can't handle the criticism of the fans. (some of whom are far too rabid)

So, I guess in my opnion both Asucaga and Asumey are "canon". *shrug* That's just me.

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[info]lady_onuk
2006-03-14 01:57 am UTC (link)
I think they are just trying to see how the fans are going to answer to the next season (I think is suposed to be called "Gundam Seed Stargazer" http://www.seed-stargazer.net/).
I'm scared of what they possibly could do with it -_-U

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[info]indy_chan
2006-03-14 04:55 am UTC (link)
Don't trust my reply...'coz i'm only half-sure about this...but I think Gundam Seed Stargazer is actually an OVA series that is set during the same time period as GSD...and is more likely to be a side-story....it has a new/different set of characters....and I don't think its the next/new season of GS...I believe from what I've seen online that there is no next season....

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[info]ice_and_snow
2006-03-14 01:58 am UTC (link)
May have just been me, or did she sound like she didn't know what she was saying half the time? Its like..."Well... AsuMey are a couple but not. I like Asucaga but I don't. OR DO I?!"

"I wasn't deliberately breaking the two apart, and I like them, so please don't misunderstand me."
I'm sorry but thats just eh, I did a mistake now everyone gotta live with it. kinda of reason. GG Morosawa GG.

But *3* thank you for translating it. Athrun needs to go an take a break from all this drama with girls. >>
No wonder Athrun/Kira fans are sooo carefree x) I should go join them just for the heck of it.

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[info]fluffyfledgling
2006-03-14 02:23 am UTC (link)
Yes, join us.

*cough*

But I think asukira fans are carefree because there's no one out there that can deny the bond that Athrun and Kira have. It's obvious to the point it hurts. ;)

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[info]fluffyfledgling
2006-03-14 02:14 am UTC (link)
Right, um...yeah, she just basically choked down all the points she was expressing in her previous interviews. Forcefully. Because she clearly doesn't really believe this, considering how inconsistent and unsure she sounds.

*whacks her with a DUNCE hat*

Thank goodness the fandom has already ranted itself out and mellowed down enough to accept Meyrin. (Or is that just me?) She really shouldn't have bothered. It's a little late to be saving face.

And, um, next time? Relay your ideas more clearly to the animators, mkay? Because everyone was clearly under the impression that Athrun and Cagalli were a couple.

*throws her another DUNCE hat*

(And thanks to milchstrasse for translating it. ♥)

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[info]artlessbaka
2006-03-14 02:19 am UTC (link)
I've said it before and I'll say it again:

PFFFFFFTTTTT.

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[info]milchstrasse
2006-03-14 03:12 am UTC (link)
I have no idea how my post could've ended up here, but I just wanted to point out that the article posted above is from the April 2006 issue of Animage (just in case anyone wants to check the interview in full).

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[info]ilovehugs
2006-03-14 03:18 am UTC (link)
This is hilarious. I don't know if she's speaking in a rational manner or just trying to pull off that idea that we've misunderstoof her. Her explanations for events are hasty and I if she was pushing for Meyrin and Athrun to be a couple in the end, I would have appreciated if she had make it seem possible in a realistic way than just suddenly shoving them both together like Cagalli never existed.

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[info]indy_chan
2006-03-14 04:52 am UTC (link)
I don't know why she even bothered with this interview...its obviously in contrast with her answers from her last interview...and its not like her excuses/explanation will change how horrible Destiny was...and I'm not speaking in terms of just the Asucaga pairing....but in general...like the lack of plot in Destiny...for example in the beginning Shinn was shown as one of the main characters...but by the end...it was like Shinn who?...and there were many fight scenes that were often "recycled"....and out of curiousity...did anyone else feel that Lunamaria and Shinn was just tossed together?...i have nothing against these two characters...but I thought it was just so sudden how Luna depended on Shinn, who just happened to "technically" have killed her sister? She did not even show any shred of anger...Cagalli showed more frustration in GS when she found out that Athrun had jsut "killed" Kira and she did not even know they were siblings....ok fine...they're two different characters with two different reactions...argh I'm babbling...

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[info]subaru_san
2006-03-14 05:44 pm UTC (link)
It's not just a feeling. Lunamaria and Shinn strike me as a pity couple. They both felt sorry for each other so got together. A rather worthless couple, if you ask me, especially since there's far more interest on Lunamaria's part than there is on Shinn's.

And yeah, Destiny's plot was lacking in more than one way. As for Lunamaria as a character, she never struck me as a realistic character, just the fan ideal one.

Cynthia

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[info]dragon_agility
2006-03-14 04:59 pm UTC (link)
Meh, covering up for her own ass for all the hell she put out for herself in the beginning.

But I do agree with some of her points because this is how I viewed AsuCaga at the end of Destiny, about how they're still at the beginning of a blossoming relationship and hopefully, it's only just beginning for them ^^

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[info]keigojin
2006-03-14 09:35 pm UTC (link)
If they make a third series, are they totally gunna destroy our ship, thats pretty much the only thing that worries me at this point.

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[info]snapple
2006-03-14 11:45 pm UTC (link)
You shouldn't really be "worried". It doesn't really matter if they are technically together or not. All the fans know that the characters have been butchered beyond recognition, so the same goes for the pairings. A third season would only make things worse.

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[info]asuka_05
2006-03-16 12:48 pm UTC (link)
I´m from Spain, but I´m going to try to explain myself the best than I can.

Well...
I think that this interview have to be read from points of view.

a) Like a writer, Morosawa would like that Asucaga in Destiny´s end did be broken. The writers hate de happy-ends. In addition, if we analyze to Meyrin, we could see that she is a special character: she isn´t like others Gundam secondary characters. Of a form or another one, she has certain protagonism:
1. Her sister is Lunamaria. A character that, although does not have special importance, she is the only support of Shinn in Destiny´s end. On the other hand, is a popular personage [in Japan]. What is it that I try to say with this. Easy. Considering this, Meyrin will have more facility to integrate herself in the script.
2. Although he is a secondary personage, they show her like a character with certain charisma... her "humorous moments" in the shower, or the simple attention that shows to Athrun are a clear example of it.
3. In addition, in second half of Destiny, she changes: goes towards a first plane. The excuse that she gives to go with Athrun seemed to me insufficient. And when she decides to remain already in the Archangel it killed to me XD It´s clear that they wanted to give more importance to the personage.

Summarizing, it is possible that Morosawa wanted to contribute certain realism to the series showing that a main personage could fall in love with a secondary character.
Although, I think that she did not remember that Gundam Seed is a c-o-m-m-e-r-c-i-a-l series.

Let´s go to the second point of view.

b) Like you have said, in the interview she is try to cover herself.
It´s clear that the public has much importance in Gundam Seed [if I begin to put examples I don´t finish XD] And it´s clear that Athrun and Cagalli are popular characters. And well... it´s clear that Asucaga has become a phenomenon between the fans.
What do you think that happen if Asucaga be broken?
A multitude of fans guided by madness would attack the residence of the Fukudas XD
Basically, which Morosawa says in the interview is that Athrun and Cagalli will be together [forever and ever XD]
But what she doesn´t say [and surely she thinks] it´s that they will be together by and for the public.
Ummmm
It makes me think the following thing: why as much importance to make the matter "clear"? If Destiny has finished, why they continue contenting the fans? [I don´t know if I use the correct verb. Sorry ^^U]
This only has an answer: yet Seed hasn´t finished.
Is it mean that we will have third series?

The truth is that I don´t know that it makes me glad or no XD
Although it would be their moment for fixing their error of Destiny...

Only the time will be able to say it :3

sp: ah!!!! nunca había escrito tanto en inglés XD
sp2: I´m sorry for my bad English ^^U I don´t say the half of the things that I want to say... Obvious, is more easy explain myself in Spanish.

Bueno... bye!

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[info]acanonymous
2006-03-17 10:32 am UTC (link)
Gracias.

Actually, you explained it well.

It's okay if you can't explain enough.. actually, it was already enough to be understood. ^_^

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[info]aki_kaede
2006-03-17 02:22 pm UTC (link)
Morozawa is only trying to escape from the fans.

I am starting to get worried for the third series of SEED. Will it be a total disaster? If that's the case, I would rather they not show it at all.

But I think they will salvage the situation. Their jobs are on the line you know... If they make it any worse, they will be remembered as the pair which "created the phenomenon Gundam Seed but destroyed it with their very own hands".

I hope they get the idea or risk getting eggs thrown at them where ever they go.

Or the voice actors go on strike?

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[info]red_rika
2006-03-27 07:36 am UTC (link)
Heh....her words....i did rather choose to not to believe...she ish just trying to cover her 'bad' name >.

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[info]boredandsleepy1
2006-08-02 10:04 am UTC (link)
Hey, all, we need to make some corrections here after reading the actual magazine. The original script, before Milchstrasse kindly translated, had been modified and posted on some Japanese forums where she obtained the source. So to correct this, upon the suggestion of Milchstrasse, I am going to create my post here.

The first scan is about Morosawa response to the interviewer about Meyrin:
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/2412/apranimagebq3.jpg

What's said in the original April 2006 Animage.
「確かに一緒にいましたね、あの場では。でも、この先あの二人の関係がどうなっていくかはわからない。良い コンビになるかもしれない。でも別な道を行くことになるかもしれないですよ」
"She was with him in that place. However, how those two become still remains unknown. Perhaps, they might be a good combination but perhaps they might go to separate road."

メイリンは「DESTINY」の後半になるにつれて、アスランとの結びつきが深くなっていきま したが
彼女の役どころはなんだったんですか?
Interviewer: "Meyrin in the latter half of Destiny became deeply invovled with Athrun. What was her role here?"

両:別の可能性…とでもいいますか。主にアスランのですが。スタッフの方にも指摘されたことは あるし 自覚はあるんですが「DESTINY」「SEED」の女性はみんな気が強いというか、なんと言 うか(笑) ラクスはあんな一種お母さんみたいな、」ちょっと厳しい女の子だったし…まあ彼女はキラのほう へ いっちゃいましたが。カガリは国のことでいっぱいいっぱいなうえ、ある意味鈍感?というか、や っぱり やわらかいとか可愛いとかの雰囲気の女の子ではないし。なのでアスランから見て、彼が本当に癒 される というか、安らげる、ある意味甘えられることもできるような女の子って、いないんじゃないかな ?(笑)

Morosawa: "Maybe for another possibility...... As Athrun being the main, Staff has pointed out and I am aware of that in Destiny and Seed all female characters are strong type (Morosawa laughed). Lacus is mother-type but strict....she had already headed towards Kira. Cagalli fully attended to her country's matter so is she insensible? Still, she is not soft, lovely and full of girl atmosphere. Just look at Athrun, there is no girl who can actually heal him, comfort him and sweeten him?" (Morosawa laughed).

たしかにそうですね(笑)
"It's certainly" (Interviewer laughed)

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アスメイは後日談のあの場では一緒にいたけど、これからどうなるかは分からない
いいコンビになるかもしれない、でも別の道をいくかもしれない
メイリンは気の強い女の子ばかりの中、アスランにとって癒される、安らげる、甘えられる女の子

"Athrun and Meyrin were together at the end, but whether they'll be a good pair or if they'll be going on their separate ways remains to be seen. Meyrin is -- in that circle of strong (not lit.) women -- a girl that Athrun can (not lit.) derive comfort from, a girl he can feel safe with, a girl he can depend on."
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Can you notice the difference? Did Morosawa in her interview actually say or confirm Meyrin was such person who could heal, comfort and sweeten him? Also "combination" does not mean couple in this translation. If you notice, through the following scans, her comments for Meyrin is always ended with "kamo"; that is, not confirmed tone.

The following 2-page scans are mostly for Asucaga. Majority of the translation is correct except the sequence is little not in order. At this moment I considered them irrelevant so I skipped them and added some that might have been missed.

アスランは確かにカガリのことを大事にしてるし、大変な彼女を支えたいと思っているし、それは生涯変わらな いと思います

Athrun is indeed making Cagalli's thing important and he wants to support very her. I think this will never change for life.

複数の女性が周りにいるからといって彼自身がフラフラしている訳じゃない

Even though he was surrounded with women, he's not a hula-hula (changeable) man.

Almost towards the end of her comments about Asucaga, the Interviewer asked her the question right after her saying that she only meant their “misunderstanding” at the Start of GSD, but someone was quite surprised at it.

"決して ふたりの戀が幻だつだわけではないんですよね"

Interviewer asked, "So in no way, both of their love was just a vision, don't you think?"

お互いが好きと言う気持ちはうまれたけど、まだ入り口 いうことです 彼らには彼らなりの愛情の形がるはずなんですが
二人はこれを二人で見つけていかなくてはならない いとうことです 二人の仲を裂こうとしていたわけでもなんでもない
私、別にあの二人の仲を引き裂こうとしていたわけでもなんでもありませんし 彼らのこともすきだから書いてますので できればそこは、誤解しないで 頂きたいなあと

"They certainly like each other, but it's still the beginning. For them, they have their own kind of love and these two must find it together. I did not intentionally pull and tear them apart. I like them too so please don't misunderstand me."

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4756/apranimage2mp3.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/999/apranimage3kr1.jpg

And then she ends her comments about couple and starts her speech about the Special Edition.

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Translation Update
[info]boredandsleepy1
2008-07-24 06:00 pm UTC (link)
Hi, all, due to recent discussion with others for the translation, I need to make some update for the conclusion of Asucaga pairing by Morosawa's interview in April 2006 Animage (not Animedia, my mistake). I can't edit my previous post and I don't want to delete it to lose my original post date so I added this additional post.

"決して ふたりの戀が幻だつだわけではないんですよね"

Interviewer asked, "So in no way, both of their love was just a vision, don't you think?"


お互いが好きと言う気持ちはうまれたけど、まだ入り口 いうことです 彼らには彼らなりの愛情の形がるはずなんですが
二人はこれを二人で見つけていかなくてはならない いとうことです

私、別にあの二人の仲を引き裂こうとしていたわけでもなんでもありませんし 彼らのこともすきだから書いてますので できればそこは、誤解しないで 頂きたいなあと

"They certainly like each other, but it's still the beginning. For them, they have their own kind of love and these two must find it together. I did not mean to break them up. I like them too so please don't misunderstand me."

Morosawa meant their love 愛情 as lovers. She did not mean to break them up and she asked us not to misunderstand her. Please note there's none about her saying she had already broken them up. Therefore, per Morosawa's interview, both Athrun and Cagalli still love each other. ^_^

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