Nanoha StrikerS 24 RAW

[16 September 2007, 00:12:11] Opt512: TIME-SPACE COMPRESSION CANNON!
[16 September 2007, 00:12:28] PsiStatusWin: GUAHH!!!!
[16 September 2007, 00:12:28] *** Auto-response from Opt512: AFK NINJA! (You can't see me.)
[16 September 2007, 00:12:39] PsiStatusWin: 4
[16 September 2007, 00:12:40] PsiStatusWin: 3
[16 September 2007, 00:12:42] PsiStatusWin: 2
[16 September 2007, 00:12:44] PsiStatusWin: 1
[16 September 2007, 00:12:44] Opt512: If you ask to be hit, be ready for an ichigeki!
[16 September 2007, 00:12:54] PsiStatusWin: SIR YES SIR!
[16 September 2007, 00:13:12] PsiStatusWin: This is Preparation for MAD PWNAGE!!
[16 September 2007, 00:13:29] PsiStatusWin: KIAI KIAIIIIIII
[16 September 2007, 00:13:37] Opt512: KIAI!
[16 September 2007, 00:13:56] Opt512: KIAI!
[16 September 2007, 00:14:03] Opt512: NEKKETSU!
[16 September 2007, 00:14:11] PsiStatusWin: SHUUCHUU
[16 September 2007, 00:14:16] PsiStatusWin: KIAI
[16 September 2007, 00:14:24] PsiStatusWin: DOKONJO
[16 September 2007, 00:14:31] PsiStatusWin: TOTSUGEKI
[16 September 2007, 00:14:38] PsiStatusWin: KIAI
[16 September 2007, 00:14:44] Opt512: CLEAR THE FIELD, SWORD OF THE LAKE!
[16 September 2007, 00:14:50] Opt512: HISSATSU, TSUNAMI-GIRI!
[16 September 2007, 00:15:09] PsiStatusWin: Star Ritual - Calling of Divine Wind!
[16 September 2007, 00:15:22] Opt512: hehehehe
[16 September 2007, 00:15:52] Opt512: Ah. Zest and Geiz past.
[16 September 2007, 00:16:05] PsiStatusWin: woo, subs earned Warman's name into you rmemory I see
[16 September 2007, 00:16:19] PsiStatusWin: (I'll probably synch the subs w/ Snow)
[16 September 2007, 00:16:40] Opt512: (There are reasons that Mizusu is Knight of the Lake. With Shamal also being Knight of the Lake, and of completely different character, it is slightly disorienting sometimes.)
[16 September 2007, 00:17:10] Opt512: Ah... orders from the jars.
[16 September 2007, 00:17:46] PsiStatusWin: oh... more connections
[16 September 2007, 00:18:05] Opt512: Isn't that Lutecia's mother?
[16 September 2007, 00:18:08] PsiStatusWin: More of these Blades?
[16 September 2007, 00:18:12] PsiStatusWin: Ah???
[16 September 2007, 00:18:23] Opt512: Ah. Incident in which 5 lost her eye.
[16 September 2007, 00:19:13] PsiStatusWin: and thus she became 11'd
[16 September 2007, 00:20:08] PsiStatusWin: oh... that was unexpected
[16 September 2007, 00:20:09] Opt512: Hm... there goes Warman.
[16 September 2007, 00:20:47] PsiStatusWin: GAR BREAKOUT
[16 September 2007, 00:20:56] Opt512: Well, I was hoping he'd deploy and actually do something, but getting Ichigeki'd was always a possibility.
[16 September 2007, 00:21:22] Opt512: Well, I'd say II is out of it at least.
[16 September 2007, 00:21:29] Opt512: She wasn't really interesting anyhow.
[16 September 2007, 00:21:43] PsiStatusWin: Guess the Warman faction was a red herring in the end
[16 September 2007, 00:21:55] PsiStatusWin: maybe except for his Physicla Project that might be rez'd somewhere
[16 September 2007, 00:22:03] Opt512: Well, they did make all of this possible by funding the Doctor.
[16 September 2007, 00:22:19] PsiStatusWin: ah, that is what was said
[16 September 2007, 00:23:03] PsiStatusWin: don't worry Lutecia, this is what Friend Making is for
[16 September 2007, 00:23:17] Opt512: Hm. T3 summon.
[16 September 2007, 00:24:14] Opt512: Hm... is Elio going to end up with 2 wives?
[16 September 2007, 00:24:26] PsiStatusWin: let's worry of that later
[16 September 2007, 00:24:33] PsiStatusWin: right now, let's see how they get persuaded
[16 September 2007, 00:24:38] Opt512: And now for some kaiju fighitng.
[16 September 2007, 00:24:59] Opt512: Rena did that one better.
[16 September 2007, 00:25:10] PsiStatusWin: Blood Tearzzzz
[16 September 2007, 00:25:18] PsiStatusWin: (and yeah, nobody can beat Rena at that line)
[16 September 2007, 00:25:50] Opt512: White Devil Succession Power!
[16 September 2007, 00:26:25] PsiStatusWin: now, to see if they do somethig unexpected - swap targets
[16 September 2007, 00:27:20] PsiStatusWin: HISSATSU PUNCH???
[16 September 2007, 00:28:46] PsiStatusWin: he's cloned himself?
[16 September 2007, 00:29:04] Opt512: Figures.
[16 September 2007, 00:29:24] PsiStatusWin: SRW FF does this with both Shapiro and Scirocco
[16 September 2007, 00:30:10] Opt512: Good thing OG2 didn't have that tech. There are a lot of assholes who would have used it.
[16 September 2007, 00:30:32] PsiStatusWin: SUPPORT GEKIREIIIIIIIIIIII
[16 September 2007, 00:31:20] Opt512: Hm. Elio looks like 3 years older there.
[16 September 2007, 00:31:22] PsiStatusWin: MAD BUFFS ONNN
[16 September 2007, 00:31:27] Opt512: PWNSAUCE MUSIC!
[16 September 2007, 00:31:27] PsiStatusWin: GAR does that to a boy, yes
[16 September 2007, 00:31:58] PsiStatusWin: Pwnsauce Music, Pwnsauce Suit...
[16 September 2007, 00:32:16] PsiStatusWin: Woahhhh
[16 September 2007, 00:32:21] PsiStatusWin: Good Move~
[16 September 2007, 00:32:32] PsiStatusWin: Strike Coordinator!
[16 September 2007, 00:32:39] Opt512: Nice one, Infinite Hunt.
[16 September 2007, 00:33:04] PsiStatusWin: woo... unexpected Hissatsu ability
[16 September 2007, 00:33:37] PsiStatusWin: *sigh* I'll have to apply Danmaku imagination to this later
[16 September 2007, 00:33:53] PsiStatusWin: It'st eh YOUMU BLADE!!
[16 September 2007, 00:33:54] Opt512: YOUMU CUT EVIL!
[16 September 2007, 00:34:28] PsiStatusWin: BAT away!!
[16 September 2007, 00:34:38] Opt512: win by knockout.
[16 September 2007, 00:35:03] PsiStatusWin: now, he better make sure this clone has auto-amnesia device
[16 September 2007, 00:35:06] Opt512: Though it really would be like a guy like that to play possom and put his fist through her chest
[16 September 2007, 00:35:22] PsiStatusWin: It was to TIAAAAA
[16 September 2007, 00:35:24] Opt512: Defector!
[16 September 2007, 00:35:37] Opt512: No... support attack!
[16 September 2007, 00:35:46] PsiStatusWin: I meant Vice went to Tia
[16 September 2007, 00:36:20] Opt512: Shit. That is a sneaky way to hide a clone.
[16 September 2007, 00:36:20] PsiStatusWin: oh, the clone is in the babies
[16 September 2007, 00:36:44] Opt512: This does explain why all of the Numbers are female.
[16 September 2007, 00:36:57] Opt512: And why any one of them alive means Game Not Over.
[16 September 2007, 00:37:16] PsiStatusWin: You know... the horrid thought occurs that IV might escape to provide Next Season's Evil Faction
[16 September 2007, 00:37:18] Opt512: That guy is fucking sick.
[16 September 2007, 00:37:37] Opt512: Shit. She just might, at that.
[16 September 2007, 00:37:47] PsiStatusWin: Yeah... Shapiro at least had the decency of tossing all his clones out at you along with himself
[16 September 2007, 00:39:18] PsiStatusWin: fine, he also personally piloted a suped up Valcion + Invincibility Field, but at least he came out to fight fair in a Showdown
[16 September 2007, 00:39:45] PsiStatusWin: since if he couldn't win there, he'd lose all decisive chance
[16 September 2007, 00:39:58] Opt512: Hehehe



[16 September 2007, 00:41:31] PsiStatusWin: yeah... story-wise regretfully it makes most sense to have IV run away
[16 September 2007, 00:41:39] Opt512: But wow. IV and Doctor have really impressed me with their foresight and evil.
[16 September 2007, 00:41:40] PsiStatusWin: perfect character to do it
[16 September 2007, 00:42:07] Opt512: Well... mostly Doctor. It's all his idea.
[16 September 2007, 00:42:10] PsiStatusWin: well, back last year we said S3 would need some Epic Villains to match our Growing Epicness
[16 September 2007, 00:42:18] PsiStatusWin: we got Epic Evil
[16 September 2007, 00:42:37] Opt512: Ah, so we did.
[16 September 2007, 00:43:02] PsiStatusWin: Now IV has let her hair down, declaring Change In Status
[16 September 2007, 00:43:28] Opt512: Queen Mother of Evil.
[16 September 2007, 00:43:37] PsiStatusWin: Very Yes
[16 September 2007, 00:43:53] PsiStatusWin: Given the entire ship is probalby on auto-pilot, with its AI deeply defended, she has no reason to stick around anymore
[16 September 2007, 00:44:32] PsiStatusWin: The ship probably has already got backup energy or ammunition or whatever supplies to fire its Death Weapon even if Vivio was removed from teh system now
[16 September 2007, 00:45:03] Opt512: Hm...
[16 September 2007, 00:45:11] PsiStatusWin: 1 just ended up being a Secretary who never did much. It's all IV's domain
[16 September 2007, 00:45:35] Opt512: Yeah, 1 really didn't have any critical role.
[16 September 2007, 00:45:46] PsiStatusWin: the one developed to be the #1 manipulative, evil, remorseless one out of all the cyborgs
[16 September 2007, 00:46:35] Opt512: Indeed.
[16 September 2007, 00:47:09] Opt512: But rather than saying she was build for it, I'd say she turned out that way.
[16 September 2007, 00:47:30] PsiStatusWin: is that statement for this or that side of the 4th wall?
[16 September 2007, 00:47:34] Opt512: If he could control their personalities to that extent, there's no reason for him to not have them all be that way.
[16 September 2007, 00:47:46] PsiStatusWin: As in, the storywriters found her turning out that way or... ah yeah
[16 September 2007, 00:48:11] Opt512: From this side, it's easier to say that having them all be pure evil would be boring.
[16 September 2007, 00:48:24] PsiStatusWin: yep, otherwise it makes no sense he had 'inefficient' personalities in some of his cyborgs
[16 September 2007, 00:49:27] PsiStatusWin: but yeah... W00t to Vice going to Tia's situation
[16 September 2007, 00:49:59] Opt512: Yeah.
[16 September 2007, 00:50:21] Opt512: There may be some chance of a hetero match for her yet.
[16 September 2007, 00:50:26] Opt512: Not much, though.
[16 September 2007, 00:51:52] PsiStatusWin: Not much, but doujin writers don't care about that
[16 September 2007, 00:51:56] PsiStatusWin: they apply Simon's logic
[16 September 2007, 00:52:05] PsiStatusWin: "if it's not exactly zero, then it's like 100% to me!"
[16 September 2007, 00:52:08] Opt512: Ah?
[16 September 2007, 00:52:27] PsiStatusWin: in response to "your survival chance is minimally infinitessimally small"
[16 September 2007, 00:52:29] Opt512: Dayum. He really does got Kamina spirit.
[16 September 2007, 00:52:48] PsiStatusWin: oh yeah
[16 September 2007, 00:53:46] PsiStatusWin: blah though, pity we didn't get much budget for these fight scenes
[16 September 2007, 00:54:14] PsiStatusWin: oh well, no Shounen anime ever has the budget to compete with my imagination
[16 September 2007, 00:54:31] PsiStatusWin: which has been richly fed by SRW and Touhou lately
[16 September 2007, 00:54:46] Opt512: It's a Super Show. Fukutsu and Hitchuu don't take much budget.
[16 September 2007, 00:55:27] PsiStatusWin: I guess.... though aren't Supers supposed to have the high budget HISSATSU moves?
[16 September 2007, 00:56:06] Opt512: Big bad hissatsu can be stock footage.
[16 September 2007, 00:56:27] PsiStatusWin: there is no opportunity for stock footage in Nanoha though
[16 September 2007, 00:57:09] PsiStatusWin: I mean like this scene with Schach - she would not in reality be moving so slowly
[16 September 2007, 00:57:17] Opt512: Not anymore.
[16 September 2007, 00:57:23] Opt512: Back in the day, sure.
[16 September 2007, 00:58:10] Opt512: Well... there's also the problem that beyond certain speeds, the viewers have to be told what happened.
[16 September 2007, 00:58:33] PsiStatusWin: it doesn't need to be much faster than it was. But this was lame speed
[16 September 2007, 00:59:48] Opt512: hm... I suppose.
[16 September 2007, 01:00:10] PsiStatusWin: but yeah... it might have been an artifact of low budget, but iwas cool seenig Fate pull off Youmu's 断迷剣「迷津慈航斬」
[16 September 2007, 01:00:25] PsiStatusWin: (Delusion Terminating Sword "Slash of Risening from Shore of Delusion") - her tier 2 SWORD spellcard
[16 September 2007, 01:00:37] Opt512: Yes.
[16 September 2007, 01:02:19] PsiStatusWin: wuch, well I always go by the rule of "anime exists to serve as introduction to the original Story"
[16 September 2007, 01:02:35] PsiStatusWin: even if 'original' was only in the heads of the script writers
[16 September 2007, 01:02:51] PsiStatusWin: it would have been a lot cooler in concept than after it cmae out with Budget
[16 September 2007, 01:03:17] Opt512: hehe
[16 September 2007, 01:03:33] PsiStatusWin: I mean, they were meant to be Tier 3 summons. What did they end up doing? 1 Beam Shot each. That's all!?
[16 September 2007, 01:03:55] PsiStatusWin: And no ZOMG SFXs to show how powerful that One Beam was??
[16 September 2007, 01:04:20] Opt512: Ah, true.
[16 September 2007, 01:05:01] Opt512: Well, perhaps they just don't have the amount of budget to animate proper danmaku.
[16 September 2007, 01:05:06] PsiStatusWin: yeah, after you get used to Fleshing Out SRW combat turns and danmaku fights, it carries over to anime too...
[16 September 2007, 01:05:19] Opt512: Didn't you say at one point that it was 10 years too soon for a TH anime?
[16 September 2007, 01:05:30] PsiStatusWin: oh it didn't have to be danmaku - it was just GENERIC FIGHT that got on my nerves
[16 September 2007, 01:05:48] PsiStatusWin: even if it's just ONE BEAM, if it had Nuclear Shockwave with terrain getting raped...
[16 September 2007, 01:05:51] PsiStatusWin: was that So Hard??
[16 September 2007, 01:06:01] Opt512: For monsters that big, men in rubber suits are fine.
[16 September 2007, 01:06:48] PsiStatusWin: yeah, I did say it was 10 years too soon for TH level danmaku. Also, it'd have to be fully CG animated to have a chance of getting done on a weekly basis
[16 September 2007, 01:06:52] Opt512: But yeah, there should be more damage to city.
[16 September 2007, 01:07:09] PsiStatusWin: actually, Utawarerumono did precisely that - big army scenes were completley CG'd
[16 September 2007, 01:07:17] PsiStatusWin: yes it looked jerky and weird, but it's RIGHT dammit
[16 September 2007, 01:07:53] PsiStatusWin: Brave Steps that will eventually create smooth Elite animatoin at a reasonable pace!
[16 September 2007, 01:07:57] Opt512: Well, in order to do a large army episode, Haruhi had to budget rape the previous week.
[16 September 2007, 01:08:22] PsiStatusWin: yeah, Utawarerumono never had to budget rape to get frequent Big Army eps out
[16 September 2007, 01:08:42] PsiStatusWin: mind you, there was one ep that looked like it had, but it was due to having a Guest director
[16 September 2007, 01:08:51] PsiStatusWin: who applied his own style, which completely clashed with the previous existing style
[16 September 2007, 01:09:06] Opt512: Ah, Guest Director.
[16 September 2007, 01:09:23] Opt512: This is something I noticed a lot of in Nadesico. Like every other episode.
[16 September 2007, 01:10:11] PsiStatusWin: yeah, you can tell apart Guest director from Budget Rape because if viewed just alone, that ep was actually well animated
[16 September 2007, 01:10:25] PsiStatusWin: budget rape wouldn't do things smoothly or add little details
[16 September 2007, 01:11:04] PsiStatusWin: just realised, Adult Vivio has the same hairstyle as Nanoha - side ponytail
[16 September 2007, 01:11:24] PsiStatusWin: oh and more points to Tia for her talk with Wodan as she arrested her
[16 September 2007, 01:11:39] Opt512: Hehe.
[16 September 2007, 01:11:46] Opt512: Yeah, you didn't catch that?
[16 September 2007, 01:11:55] PsiStatusWin: oh I caught it. Just belatedly commenting
[16 September 2007, 01:12:01] PsiStatusWin: there wuz a lot to comment this ep!
[16 September 2007, 01:12:19] Opt512: Adult Vivio duplicates Nanoha's look entirely. Only the colors and the weapons are different.
[16 September 2007, 01:12:30] PsiStatusWin: oh you meant adult vivio - no I didn't spot it first time
[16 September 2007, 01:12:49] Opt512: It's pretty clear that she still idolizes Nanoha, she's just being mindfucked kind of hardcore at the moment.
[16 September 2007, 01:15:46] PsiStatusWin: fu... and II was... well important from backstory perspective, but really was dealt with so trivially in the main story itself
[16 September 2007, 01:16:19] Opt512: Yeah. I think they didn't really have the time to flesh out 1 and 2.
[16 September 2007, 01:16:46] PsiStatusWin: 26 eps divided by some 40 characters... yeah not enough time
[16 September 2007, 01:17:44] PsiStatusWin: As Always, ep number restrictions are detrimental. True Stories shouldn't be caged as such
[16 September 2007, 01:18:12] Opt512: For this story, 39 might have been optimal.
[16 September 2007, 01:18:33] PsiStatusWin: kahaha, many woudl complaint Even Slower Pace, but yeah I agree
[16 September 2007, 01:18:57] PsiStatusWin: 'ZOMG power takes TIME to develop! both in training and in screentime!'
[16 September 2007, 01:19:08] Opt512: Well, I myself enforce a Long Anime Filter, but some things are worth it from the start.
[16 September 2007, 01:19:25] Opt512: There is no way I would miss a Nanoha series.
[16 September 2007, 01:19:27] PsiStatusWin: people are too used to Shounen stories where the protagonist's power level rises exponentially on a scale of days
[16 September 2007, 01:20:04] PsiStatusWin: speaking of which, I'll have to get round to setting up that 'virtual online harddrive' I discovered the other day to have G-Gundam be accessible
[16 September 2007, 01:20:14] Opt512: hehe