jay_m_s ([info]jay_m_s) wrote in [info]anarchists,
@ 2008-03-21 12:26:00
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A phony "anarchist" site
please forward.



In the past few months, a considerable effort has been put into building up a fake "anarchist" website, anarchy. net, and making it appear legitimate. A mere shell just a few months ago, this site suddenly includes a blog, a forum with nearly 500 (fake and apparently real)users, a Wikipedia page, a "library", and even an online store selling shirts advertising the site.



Though the site sports a "copyright" (one of many give-aways!) dating back to 1997, the domain was just a gateway to porn sites as recently as 2005.

It is currently registered to "Throne Networks", someone with a Virginia PO box who also hosts these other lovely sites:

fuckcapitalism. com ("Anti-Capitalism")
ihatejobs. com ("I Hate Jobs")
infoterror. com ("Infoterror Internet Activist Promotions, Inc.")
antihumanism. com ("Anti-Humanism")
nihil. org ("Center for Nihilist and Nihilism Studies")
amerika. org ("Al-Qaeda Appreciation Society of North America")
corrupt. org ("Remaking Modern Society")
nazi. org ("Libertarian National Socialist Green Party")
churcharson. com ("CHURCH ARSON")
realitynews. com ("A look into the real world")
juliusevola. com ("Julius Evola: Traditionalist Visionary")
necrocapitalist. org ("Necrocapitalist")
pan-nationalism. org ("Pan-Nationalist Movement")
penttilinkola. com ("Pentti Linkola Fansite")
hessian. org ("The Hessian Studies Society")
anus. com ("American Nihilist Underground Society")
lostwisdom. com ("Lost Wisdom")
zionists. com ("Kahanist National Zionist Party")
continuity. us ("Continuity MOvement")
genocide. org ("genocide, holocaust, and democide studies")
fuckchrist. com ("Support the Judeo-Christian Holocaust")
burzum. com ("The Music of Burzum and the Writings of Varg Vikernes")
sataniccoalition. com ("The Satanic Coalition")
pragmatism. us ("Pragmatism Party - Traditional National Democratic
Party")

Most of these sites link to several of the others, and up until very recently, even the new "anarchist" version of anarchy. net linked to at least the first six of them. The links were taken down when commenters on the site's blog, and posters on its forums, began objecting to their content. But it is clear that the same organization is behind all of them.



Taken together, these sites appear to be a broad net cast at young people in the process of rejecting inherited, official values.
Whether they are a front for "third positionist" fascists, a government operation, part of a spam enterprise, or the product of a bored obsessive, what is abundantly clear is that anarchy. net is not operating in the interests of the anarchist movement, nor indeed of the majority of the world's people.



If the links with "nazi. org" weren't enough, digging a little on the site itself uncovers an explicitly racist position:

http://www. anarchy. net/anarchy/anarchy_library/racism/

"No one seems to care how contradictory it is for the powers that be that push the ideas simultaneously that
a) all races are inherently equal
b) there is no such thing as "race"
c) some races need special assistance.



It is obvious that there are noteworthy biological differences with different human populations. However, this shouldn't be either a free ticket to discriminate with great prejudice nor to think that racial gaps should be diminished by interbreeding, because both forms of thinking are very far from what is stable and close to reality."

The same text was pasted as a comment on a third-positionist fascist blog
(http://anarchonation. blogspot. com/2007/10/jena-racists. html)in October, by someone calling himself "Postglobalism" and linking to anarchy. net, with the added line "Every nation needs its own culture, rules and space to live."

The Internet is notoriously full of exactly this kind of bullshit.
What makes "anarchy. net" a problem is that it is now pretending to be the "International Anarchists Alliance", an emerging coalition of actual anarchist groups:

Member Organizations
Anarchist-Antitheist Army, (Platformist), North America
BlackStar Coalition, (Underground Collective), North America
Anarchist Brotherhood, (Underground Militant Group), North America
Schuyler's Army (Black Bloc Coordinator), North America, Europe

Needless to say, these groups are all either fake or imaginary:

"The Anarchist-Antitheist Army, based in North America has come forward to
be the first organization to become part of the Anarchist alliance."

"BlackStar is based in North-Eastern USA and South-Western Ontario.

The
Coalition's contact may be reached through one of our staff."

"The Anarchist Brotherhood operates in northwestern USA, Ontario and Quebec. Contact to the Brotherhood is not permitted."

Anarchists in the US and Canada are forming real organizations.

Some are networks that support us in our participation within broader movements for
change and resistance in our communities and workplaces; others are specific political groups pursuing collective action strategies. Many are now growing, experiencing a slowly rising wave of social discontent in response to economic anxiety and distrust of government solutions.



But history has proven that lone rebels can be misled.
And in the course of a few months, somewhere between dozens and hundreds of visitors to the anarchy. net site, many identifying themselves as 13 to 17 years old, have already registered and handed their email addresses over to whoever is behind the site. At the best, this serves as a confusionary diversion. At worst, though, it provides a point of contact for fascist indoctrination, or a fresh FBI file.



Spread the word about "anarchy. net", and if you've already been duped yourself, be more careful.

If you are interested in what anarchists (and our friends) have to say about the world we live in and our prospects for making revolutionary social change together, try one of these sites:

WWW. ANARKISMO. NET
WWW. INFOSHOP.
ORG (banned by myspace apparently)
WWW. LIBCOM. ORG
WWW. IWW. ORG
WWW. NEFAC. NET
WWW. CRIMETHINC. COM



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[info]zer
2008-03-21 05:22 pm UTC (link)
Has this been posted to the anarchy.net forums?

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I don't get it
[info]capthek
2008-03-21 06:31 pm UTC (link)
What are they trying to do, are they just some kids who think they are anarchists or is it an alternative group of different anarchists or is there some nefarious purpose?

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Re: I don't get it
[info]zapatistac
2008-03-21 08:46 pm UTC (link)
It's a conscious attempt by nutcases like Bill White (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_White_%28agitator%29) to use the internet as a means of confusing and coopting the recent growth of anarchism.

This is why people that say anarchism can mean almost anything piss me off. Without some basic borders to what anarchism encompasses you get this trash.

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Re: I don't get it
[info]bunglenose
2008-03-21 09:50 pm UTC (link)
"Without some basic borders to what anarchism encompasses you get this trash."

Bingo.

and many other annoying/destructive permutations as well, most of them not nearly so easily debunked.

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Re: I don't get it
[info]pika_pik
2008-03-22 12:25 am UTC (link)
anything that isn't clearly against all hierarchy and domination should be, but this shouldn't be an excuse for pedagogy.

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Re: I don't get it
[info]bunglenose
2008-03-22 02:55 pm UTC (link)
???

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[info]boss_tweed
2008-03-21 06:47 pm UTC (link)
Love the names for the "projects"; Delta, Echo, Foxtrot, Halo. Part of me wants to believe this is some huge joke.

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[info]shorxrore
2008-03-21 06:51 pm UTC (link)
lol burzum

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[info]toho
2008-03-21 07:41 pm UTC (link)
! you beat me to it.

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[info]bloochik
2008-03-21 09:19 pm UTC (link)
haha burzum is my cat's name!

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[info]toho
2008-03-22 12:45 am UTC (link)
I'm going to name my next cat Lord Grishnakh.

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[info]appledexterlini
2008-03-24 04:34 pm UTC (link)
Count Grishnakh

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[info]toho
2008-03-24 05:30 pm UTC (link)
haha you fell for it, nerd!

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[info]appledexterlini
2008-03-25 01:31 am UTC (link)
If you like Tolkien and black metal, you're a pathetic nerd.

If you like Le Guin and folk punk, you're a sophisticated revolutionary

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[info]toho
2008-03-25 02:09 am UTC (link)
Your words, not mine!

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[info]reject
2008-03-21 09:44 pm UTC (link)
this site has been around forever, in slightly different forms. i remember seeing it probably ten years ago.

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[info]burntherich
2008-03-21 10:38 pm UTC (link)
If you want to find out more here is the guys number and email: John N. Horton
1-910-321-1332, cmo@ait.com. If you follow the links provided by the whois entries it finally winds up with this company AIT.

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[info]pika_pik
2008-03-22 12:27 am UTC (link)
it seems like it would be worthwhile to have a sustain project of harassment to discredit this. Has this been done at all before?

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[info]pika_pik
2008-03-22 02:02 am UTC (link)
I spent a good amount of time spamming and shit talking on their forum today and I encourage people to do so. There was an internationalist anarchist group that claimed something on infoshop.org recently. I wonder if it has any connection to this. We need to find these people.

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[info]jay_m_s
2008-03-22 03:52 am UTC (link)
Already registered but for some reason it's taking a while for the confirmation e-mail to get to my phony e-mail address but I'm right there with you.

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[info]pika_pik
2008-03-22 04:27 am UTC (link)
I did this for 4 hours today while i was supposed to be working until my IP was banned. I don't really know much about computers, but i'll try doing more again when I'm on another computer.

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[info]itsghastlycrew
2008-03-22 04:54 am UTC (link)
there are programs that hide your IP address, using a different one every time you get on the internet. you could download it for your home computer and probably never be blocked

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[info]jeremysavage
2008-03-23 02:42 pm UTC (link)
Free web proxies. These mask your IP address

http://proxy.org/cgi_proxies.shtml

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[info]sethbishop
2008-03-22 06:44 am UTC (link)
I just tried going to the forum and got this:

phpBB : Critical Error

Could not connect to the database


I wonder if when it comes back online the spam will still be there...

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[info]sethbishop
2008-03-22 06:48 am UTC (link)
their wiki is down as well.

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[info]pika_pik
2008-03-24 08:49 pm UTC (link)
I think the wiki is fake, probably to make the site look like it isn't controlled.

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[info]sethbishop
2008-03-25 04:41 am UTC (link)
not a bad bet. I've been reading the forums and its mighty disheartening that these kids (assuming they are who they say they are) still aren't phased by all the shit people have dug up on the site that strongly suggests a non-anarchist ideology.

lies are hard to fight against. Because they're carefully constructed, they can be more believable than truth. Knowing this does nothing to help us, however; deliberately misleading for the purpose of increased support represents what we hate. its frustrating having certain tactics used against you and being unable to use them back because your goal is to do away with their presence.

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(Anonymous)
2008-03-25 04:54 am UTC (link)
Many of the people attacking the site are overly hostile about it, prompting knee-jerk defensive reactions from the site's users. It doesn't help that people are throwing a bunch of data at them that they don't fully understand, or that they trust the guy running the site more than some random strangers.

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[info]sethbishop
2008-03-25 07:25 am UTC (link)
true. I think this whole thing has shown a fairly major weakness on our parts, in that the atmosphere of this community and some of the forums on other sites are less than welcoming to those new to anarchism. Too often it seems that a simple question such as a request for an introductory reading list (http://community.livejournal.com/anarchists/2320084.html?nc=24 for example) turns into a shit storm of intellectual posturing between variant ideologies. Everyone has an opinion, but presenting one's own opinion as the unequivocally 'right' one is presumptuous and foolish. It offers little evidence in support of the position in question, leaving only "because thats what I think" backing it up. If one's beliefs are so self-evidently right they wouldn't have opposition.

as far as the anarchy .net forum, I've noticed a revision in tactics toward a calmer, more rational approach over the last day or two, but I don't know how well it'll work now that they're defensive. We dropped the ball. We failed to provide a welcoming atmosphere while another site did (albeit under false pretense) and then when we realized it was happening, we responded with the same hostile and unwelcoming behavior that hindered entrance in the first place.

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[info]pika_pik
2008-03-25 07:12 pm UTC (link)
I really don't believe that they're any more welcoming. The domain itself will get a lot more discussion than the forum of a livejournal community simply because of the domain. I'm fairly suspicious that a lot of the users are 1) made up and 2) accounts created by people in order to spam the site. So the actual traffic and use of the site is inflated.

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[info]pika_pik
2008-03-25 07:09 pm UTC (link)
I would argue that the site mods and admins are claiming ignorance because they are either incredibly stupid or are in on this scheme. I would conclude the later because they have the most dedication to something that has barely existed in the first place. If they found out these things why wouldn't they just leave. They stay because they are supportive of what the site promotes.

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(Anonymous)
2008-03-22 07:11 pm UTC (link)
lol, Here is what their moderator "Freeman" has to say about abortion:

"If the mother is an irresponsible whore who gets pregant merely because she did not have the forethought to be less promiscuous or to use a condom, and proceeds to get an abortion on her fault, then it is considered a dishonour and a murder with respects to the Code.

If, however, rape or some other explainable cause is involved then an abortion in this case would not be a blatant dishonour.

I am personally against abortion, save for the possibiltiy of saving many lives at the death of few (i.e. stem cell research), and for medical reasons abortion is not considered dishonourable. Also: in Anarchia I believe that we won't have adequate facilities to harbour an abortion clinic for sometime after its establishment.

So basically, if you're the village bicycle (everyone gets a ride) and you get pregant at your own consequence, then abortion is murder. If it saves your life, or if rape is invovled, then it is not of consequence as per the code.


I hope that's the answer you were looking for."

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[info]bitches_tyrone
2008-03-23 09:14 am UTC (link)
talk about utpoia.

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[info]pika_pik
2008-03-24 08:51 pm UTC (link)
these people are really obviously not anarchists.

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