Paul ([info]walstafa) wrote in [info]alt_edinburgh,
@ 2005-06-29 13:56:00
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Studio 24 to close...
From http://news.scotsman.com/archive.cfm?id=716412005 (Requires registration)

A NIGHTCLUB has been forced to shut down after complaints from neighbours over loud music and antisocial behaviour.

The owners of Studio 24 on Calton Road have agreed to close its doors for the last time next January following a campaign by neighbours.

Residents complained about under-age drinking, noise and litter from clubbers, as well as music audible through their flat walls.

Twenty objections were lodged with the city licensing board when it considered granting an extension to the club’s 3am late licence this week.

A six-month extension was passed despite the residents’ challenge after the owner’s solicitor pledged the club would close in the New Year.

Most of the complaints stemmed from the under-18 Goth night, Junior Mission, which is held on Saturdays till 10pm.

Hazel Hawkins, of Calton Road, complained in a letter to the board. She said: "The people that go to the club are terrible. They shout, swear, smash bottles, come into our parking area, sit on cars (and) when you tell them to leave you are given abuse."

Gillian McArthur runs the club while her father, David, acts as licensee. She said: "We have been left devastated by this. The club has been our lives and there are 20 employees who rely on us for their income.

"We have spent thousands on sound-proofing and tried to work with the residents. We sweep the streets for any litter. There is not much more we can do."

A number of new housing developments have sprung up around the club in recent years, leading to the complaints.

"We were always based in a commercial area with no flats. Now we are surrounded by them," added Ms McArthur. "The planning brief called for sound insulation in the new flats but that was not always followed."

Ms McArthur said she would pursue a civil action for compensation against any developer which failed to soundproof.

David McArthur said: "Most of the kids who attracted complaints were the ones not allowed into Junior Mission, perhaps because they had been drinking. We cannot control them. Police and youth groups have been very supportive of the youth night, which provides somewhere for kids to go."

Licensing leader Councillor Phil Attridge said: "Studio 24 have been trying their best but they have basically been a victim of the growth in new developments in Edinburgh. In previous years there were only garages and lock-ups there. Now there are lots of flats. Obviously we have sympathy for residents who will have to put up with noise for another six months, but they knew they were moving next to a nightclub.

"It would be a real shame for the club to close because it offers a lot of youngsters something to do at night. After 25 years it’s an Edinburgh institution."

The club owners will be able to apply for another licence in January if they choose, which is likely to spark further opposition from residents.

A city council spokeswoman said: "A residential development next to the venue did fail to comply with the condition requiring soundproofing. The onus to prove that an applicant has complied to a planning condition lies with the applicant, not the council."



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[info]wombenvy
2005-06-29 06:04 am UTC (link)
Oh dear....

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[info]gusstav
2005-06-29 06:05 am UTC (link)
Oh well.....

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[info]wombenvy
2005-06-29 06:08 am UTC (link)
You may be saying oh well to the club going.. but what about as a venue?

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(no subject) - [info]walstafa, 2005-06-29 06:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gusstav, 2005-06-29 06:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wombenvy, 2005-06-29 06:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gusstav, 2005-06-29 06:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]walstafa, 2005-06-29 06:15 am UTC

[info]altheia
2005-06-29 06:06 am UTC (link)
Oh gods.. Something in me just screams "They can't close it! They just CAN'T" but they can, can't they :(
Having been a very regular attendant of the jnr before I turned 18, I can understand where they're coming from with the sound complaints and underage drunks, but they ought to have known that they would have to put up with that before they moved there! Surely?
I might have to go to whatevers on at new year to say goodbye to the place..

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[info]wombenvy
2005-06-29 06:07 am UTC (link)
It's Dogma this year.

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[info]dark_vengance
2005-06-29 06:08 am UTC (link)
WTF!!

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[info]sophistocratty
2005-06-29 01:40 pm UTC (link)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Your beloved metal club will be gone FOREVER baby!

No more dragging me out on a Saturday. B-)

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[info]silverclear
2005-06-29 06:10 am UTC (link)
> but they knew they were moving next to a nightclub


and that's what I have a problem with. why on earth do people move into a new home and then complain about something that existed there already? why not find a home that suits them?! there's no shortage of ugly new flats in Edinburgh. :-/

having said that, I really don't think the Studios is a great venue, so *ducks for cover* it might be the push that is needed to establish a new alt venue.

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[info]walstafa
2005-06-29 06:12 am UTC (link)
I agree with you that the Studios is slightly "low rent", but I honestly don't know if there's any place who'd be as willing to accomodate that crowd. I know that people have been looking at various points to no avail.

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(no subject) - [info]silverclear, 2005-06-29 06:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]silverclear, 2005-06-29 06:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]guyinahat, 2005-06-29 06:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]yodd, 2005-06-29 06:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]silverclear, 2005-06-29 06:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]yodd, 2005-06-29 07:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]deililly, 2005-06-29 06:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blackworx, 2005-06-29 01:29 pm UTC

[info]elainey
2005-06-29 06:16 am UTC (link)
We all knew it would happen eventually, but as many others have said, these people knew what that building was when they moved there, surely?
Yes, the place smells, and the sounds usually terrible, but still, it's a place of meeting and banter...

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[info]guyinahat
2005-06-29 07:11 am UTC (link)
In a way, it reminds me of the 'safe zone' that used to be in effect on Salamander rd down in Leith. New flats springs up and suddenly the street-walkers get turfed out because of residents not told by the developer that they were there.

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[info]silverclear
2005-06-29 07:50 am UTC (link)
>not told by the developer

or the residents didn't do their homework...

but, yes, agreed. that's another case that annoyed me.

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Puts on flame-proof overalls... - [info]purple_aurora82, 2005-06-29 10:33 am UTC
Re: Puts on flame-proof overalls... - [info]guyinahat, 2005-06-29 11:00 am UTC
Re: Puts on flame-proof overalls... - [info]purple_aurora82, 2005-06-29 04:05 pm UTC
Re: Puts on flame-proof overalls... - [info]soulphish, 2005-06-29 03:02 pm UTC
Re: Puts on flame-proof overalls... - [info]purple_aurora82, 2005-06-29 03:59 pm UTC

[info]savageteddybear
2005-06-29 08:19 am UTC (link)
Well thats just shit isn't it! Unfortunatly there is nothing that can be done especialy as they only got the lisence extension because they said they were closing. Gigs will always be able to find a home and perhaps John V will restart interzone for the under 18s. People should start thinking of new venues for an adult club. 25 years and a hell of a lot of effort form a great number of people. It's a shame it has to come to an end.

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[info]bitterxfruit
2005-06-29 08:28 am UTC (link)
ohmigosh
if you have a problem with nightclubs
DONT BUY A FLAT NEXT TO ONE!

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[info]anjylle
2005-06-29 08:31 am UTC (link)
I figured the new housing developments might become a problem...

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[info]_bite_me_now_
2005-06-29 08:52 am UTC (link)
seems like the problems have occured due to the under18s. Maybe if they closed the jnr and moved it elsewhere would that not help? Don't think us adults should suffer because of them!

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[info]_bite_me_now_
2005-06-29 09:07 am UTC (link)
it also pisses me off that s24 has to close because of this. I don't see the subway west end or revolution being shut down!!

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[info]wringhim
2005-06-29 09:45 am UTC (link)
Surely somebody else could buy the venue and take it over. It sounds like a lot of the reason for it shutting down is that the owners are getting fed up with all the complaints, rather than them actually being legally forced to shut down. It sounds like the council licensing board is quite supportive.

It's in nobody's interest to have the centre of Edinburgh full of houses but with nowhere to go out in the evening (or everyone herded into a pen around the Lothian Road area). If you want cramped flats with nothing to do nearby, there are plenty of other places you could buy them much more cheaply.

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[info]guyinahat
2005-06-29 10:53 am UTC (link)
No, it's a licencing issue rather than a lack of will on the part of the owner. Dave McArthur has jumped through lots of hoops over the years to keep the neighbours happy, but they've refused his licence this time anyway. The licencing board is sympathetic, but at the end of the day they have also had to take on board the complaints of the local residents.

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[info]candyfox
2005-06-29 10:34 am UTC (link)
I'm pretty gutted... so many memories of one place, my third home (2nd being my mum's!) :/ Okay, the memories could have been made elsewhere, but they weren't. Will always have a special place in my heart *sniff* What then now be the question, and one I doubt will be answered for a long time (if at all).

It was always going to happen though... *sigh*

Aye, it was a dump, but I love it!

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[info]b_silver
2005-06-29 10:38 am UTC (link)
From what I've heard The Venue is also shutting down. (That's isn't gospel, just what I've heard.) I heard Studio 24 was shutting down ages ago but didn't know when. The main interest I'll bet is from housing developers (Cala and other prats who like building nasty cheap looking new houses) the area is prime land to build yet more crappy houses on.
When I've been there the main level of noise and bottles being broken was caused by chavs walking back to Leith. Wonder if they'll ask them to take an alternative route home?...

Since we lost loads of venues in the fire that destroyed part of the Cowgate we can't really afford to lose yet one (or two) more venues, instead of houses build a b****y amazing venue designed for both gigs and clubs. But they can't make as much money on that so they won't be interested will they?

You can see I'm a cheery sod today.

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[info]soulphish
2005-06-29 03:10 pm UTC (link)
Yep, doesn't exactly cheer me up either, the way things are going.

Do people actually do much else in Edinburgh other than develop property and go to pubs?

There doesn't seem to be room for much else.

oh, I'm forgetting "safe" cheesey dancey clubs for offices like Massa, and DnB nights from London.

It's no wonder bands head straight for Glasgow when they come to Scotland.

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(no subject) - [info]random_redhead, 2005-06-30 04:19 am UTC

[info]coliwobbly
2005-06-29 01:23 pm UTC (link)
Swans, Nirvana, Goodbye Mr MacKenzie, Mark Stewart and the Mafia, Cabaret Voltaire...just some of the great bands I've seen there.

S24/Calton Studios, I salute you.

25 years though? Which'd make it open as a venue in...1980? er pish. I was going to see films there in the early 80s when it was a cinema.

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[info]sophistocratty
2005-06-29 01:47 pm UTC (link)
Colin. You make me so fucking jealous, stoppit!

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(no subject) - [info]coliwobbly, 2005-06-29 03:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sophistocratty, 2005-06-29 03:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]akicif, 2005-06-29 06:28 pm UTC
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[info]lecabinet
2005-06-29 01:27 pm UTC (link)
Studio 24 was both the coldest and the hottest club I have ever been in. Bloody underage minimoshing idiots!

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[info]blackworx
2005-06-29 01:30 pm UTC (link)
it's a pity it's going, and you can tell by the sympathetic comments from the head of the licensing board that it was actually a well respected venue from the board's of view. I bet they'd much rather get rid of dozens of other places before getting rid of s24. How many other clubs in edinburgh have such a regular well-behaved crowd? I've never been there and seen the kind of threatening atmosphere you get in so many places come 2 in the morning. it will be a real shame to finally see it go. Lots of people (including me on occasion) bang on about the last mish at the Rocking Horse, but I seriously think s24 had it going so well until the noise complaints started coming in and the atmosphere started to dissolve as the levels went slowly down.

the last weekend (if it comes - is it really on it's 9th life?) will be a fuckin blinder though!

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[info]shamenaught
2005-06-29 02:15 pm UTC (link)
> the last weekend (if it comes - is it really on it's 9th life?) will be a fuckin blinder though!

AYE!

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(no subject) - [info]sophistocratty, 2005-06-29 02:27 pm UTC

[info]sophistocratty
2005-06-29 02:24 pm UTC (link)
It'll be a bit of a shame to see the place go. I've had a lot of memories in there, and a lot of scars from that place. =(

Yanno, when I went to the Mission Junior. (OH YES I DID! =D) there was none of this anti-social behaviour or snotty-nosed Slipknot loving, spikey haired gimps.

I blame GLASGOW for this.

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[info]soulphish
2005-06-29 03:19 pm UTC (link)
This is sad sad news. Why are the council being so soft on people who don't know what they're buying?

I can't believe the council only issue recommendations for soundproofing in new developments, and then go on to call them conditions, without enforcing them.

A council moron said... "A residential development next to the venue did fail to comply with the condition requiring soundproofing. The onus to prove that an applicant has complied to a planning condition lies with the applicant, not the council."

That's a ridulous statement. Builders should prove that a development will be insulated from the environment it's in before they're allowed to build it, and the council know that. Planning permission either requires soundproofing, or it doesn't.. the council can't change it's mind just because it has some nice shiney new buildings to tax.

Now studio24 itself will probably have to find a new home where it'll have to check that it's going to fit in with the surrounding area. I can only wish them luck, and yes, they'll need it. I think it's a shame for the liveliness of the city in general that new housebuyers don't have to check the area they're moving to so thoroughly, just because the council is so obsessed with cramming in new property to charge more tax on.

Edinburgh's not Milton Keynes. There's more to it than property development. People go out and get drunk and loud, especially in capital cities. It happens all over.

:( :( and Thrice :(

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[info]wibbble
2005-06-29 04:39 pm UTC (link)
I think you're actually being a bit unfair to the council/the planning people. They did, for example, reject a planning application for flats that were squeezing too many places into the space. In particular, comments were made about kitchens without windows, and requiring a higher standard than just packing as many new buildings into as small a space as possible.

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[info]heliomass
2005-06-29 03:59 pm UTC (link)
I have to say that I'm sick of hearing this sort of thing happen to alternative clubs and venues.

Down here in London, a host of amazing clubs have been closed over the past couple of years either for similar reasons or more often to make way for another trendy bar.

It's not like there's that many of us on the alternative scene, so I have to ask that if Studio 24 was a more trendy/less freaky (delete as appropriate) club, would it be given the same grief?

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[info]yaarg
2005-06-30 02:51 am UTC (link)
Despite the nightclub being there before that flats were, I think the point is the nightclub *should* be sound proof by law?

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[info]b_silver
2005-06-30 04:37 am UTC (link)
The club *does* have good sound proofing.

A city council spokeswoman said: "A residential development next to the venue did fail to comply with the condition requiring soundproofing.

Its the flats, they don't have good enough sound proofing!

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[info]xora
2005-06-30 08:44 am UTC (link)
Which flats get noise from the mission? You can barely hear it even when standing right outside.

Or is it noise from the gangs of under 18's roaming the streets around carlton road/royal mile. Then thats the police's problem. These people never actually go to junior mish, they just dress up and pretend and get pished in the alleyway (Toolbooth Wynd?) and smash the window of the chippy. Or at least that was my experience of living in the area.

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