JJ_MacCrimmon ([info]jj_maccrimmon) wrote in [info]abandonedplaces,
@ 2007-10-26 09:51:00
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Abandoned Places - Bluegrass Wanderings –July 07
Waverly Hills Sanitarium (Part 2)

First off, I want to welcome the folks in the [info]waverlyhills community who’ve come over and joined this community as well.

I’d also like to comment on the 63,000 death figure. Originally I was skeptical of this number too. My research led me to think this was the number of deaths in the entire state of Kentucky during the era. I then discovered that Waverly Hills was the regional TB hospital for the entire state and was where all the serious cases (requiring isolation) were sent. Because it was the primary state hospital, the figure may have come from this article (http://whsmemorial.tripod.com/id30.html). In reading through the Waverly website and the memorial website (now linked below), the staff and former patients note in correspondence that at the height of the outbreak, 12 to 14 deaths each day were not uncommon. The historical information notes that at the bottom of the “Death Tunnel” notes that hearsts were parked and awaiting “constant stream of” bodies 24/7 for a number of years. In lieu of that, the journals of former medical staff and patients indicate there was quite a number of daily fatalities.

As I noted in the first post Waverly is haunted. Not just mildly haunted, but it reeks of the spiritual detritus of tens of thousands of live that touched this place. When we first entered the grounds my daughter and I commented to each other that we were being watched. When we entered the place on the tour, the place has a very ‘close’ feeling to it, it’s like you’re jostling to get through crowds of the unseen. On several occasions there even seemed to be mild interaction between we the living and the spirits retained there.


In these dark halls, the past lingers





The tour led us to the upper most floor of the hospital, the 5th floor solarium and nurse’s station. The owners were in the process of resealing the roof.




The roof is split in two sections; one side was for children to play on sun themselves. The sound of children’s voices at play has frequently been heard coming from this area. On the other side of the nurse’s station (Rm 502), was there the insane (TB of the brain) patients would be taken to sun themselves. There’s said to be several oppressive presences feel there. Due to construction, we weren’t allowed on the open air sections


I mentioned Room 502. In 1928, the charge nurse covering this area was found hung by her neck from a pipe. One story is she was distraught over the isolation of the hospital. She wasn’t found for at least several hours and was hanging in full view of the dementia affected patients.


Perhaps it was this pipe?..

While in the 5th floor area, I lined up with my D-SLR to shoot several times, and kept getting error messages. “No Lens” WTF?! Two or three times, the lens for my camera was de-latched and turned just far enough it wouldn’t shoot but also would fall off. Each time I would reseat it and make sure it was latched only to have it happen all over again several minutes later.




Just to give you a hint at the active nature of the haunting, here’s another story. While heading down to the third floor from the fifth, the guide stopped us by a fire door. They told us that several years before, the guards found three teenage boys cowering just outside one of stairway accesses (in a hallway). They knew he boys were there because of the blood chilling screams. When the guards got there, the boys asked the guard to please take them out. When asked why they didn’t simply leave through the fire door, the boys said the people in the staircase wouldn’t let them go. They even took an axe to the metal door trying to get it to budge. The fire door had/has no lock or latch on it..


On one floor, a hobo and his dog are said to wander about. After the facilities closed in the 1980’s, they fell down the central elevator shaft.


Yes, this photo is blurry. It’s a hand held, long exposure of the 3rd floor hallway. One of the most notable “features” of Waverly’s haunting is the “Shadow People” who wander the halls. As darkness was settling around us, the guide asked us to turn off lights and camera flashes to let everyone’s eyes acclimate to the gathering gloom. Without focusing on any particular place, we could start to make out movement in and out of the doorways and down the halls. There was no breeze to stir the trees outside the building and no lights outside to cause the shadows movement. The prove this, several volunteers, including my daughter [info]persephone1313 were asked to move slowly up the hall, arms spread, to a point 40 ft (14m) away. We could clearly see shadows passing them, moving around them and in my daughter’s case, escorting her up the hallway towards us.

Then there’s the kids how are said to wander the halls. Check out this link and see for yourself (http://www.themaxfm.com/Article.asp?id=299214)


The Death Tunnel – The tunnel was originally a service tunnel used to bring supplies up from the railroad line below the hill that the former hospital rests on. Unfortunately as larger and larger numbers of the patient population died off, the administrators here elected to start sending the bodies of the deceased down the service tunnel to waiting vehicles and RR cars. This kept the dead from view of patients still fighting the disease.


On the floor of the 485 ft (120m) tunnel was a gradual stairway and on the right was an electric beltway tram. Bodies or supplies could be placed on trays and sent either direction.


Here’s a view of a base for the tram rollers


False color (light adjusted) detail


Above were stanchions for lights, power conduits, and telephone lines. At one time there may have been an overhead troll as well based on the structural and mechanical set-up.


Out at the end of the tunnel, nature is taking over.


A lone owl watched us curiously from the tree in the distance. Coming back up the tunnel (dead last in the group) was the only time I personally felt uncomfortable. At several points, I literally felt that someone was walking close no one was visible.


I’ll close out this adventure with this night shot of the 5th floor tower. It’s a hand steadied, long exposure which caught the interesting blur – as least so I would like to think.


As few links:
Waverly Hills Website

Wiki Article with links

Prarie Ghosts article

Waverly Hills Memorial Website


At the conclusion of the tour, the guides mentioned something surprising. As the site is fully restored, the building is going to be used as a haunted resort of sorts. They wouldn’t be specific about the plans, but the comment was about trying to get patient rooms redone for guest stays. Given the level of clean up, repair and restoration, I would expect power and limited water will be restored to the entire building sometime next year. My guess is they are still trying to figure out air conditioning and getting the elevator working. If you’re going to visit, I would highly recommend doing so in the next year or so to get the feel for this place as an “abandoned hospital.”



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[info]triggur
2007-10-26 05:01 pm UTC (link)
I'm really jealous. You people have all the coooooool sanitariums to visit and explore and we got nuthin (in Colorado). :(

(except for the odd missile silo)

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[info]jj_maccrimmon
2007-10-26 05:14 pm UTC (link)
I just happened to be back home in the Lousiville area for a family visit (and sadly a funeral). As for Colorado not having anything cool, you've got more ghost towns in pristine condition then much of the rest of the continental US (Alaska and Canada have more).

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[info]triggur
2007-10-26 05:29 pm UTC (link)
Ah, condolences.

Yeah, we have a lot of ghost towns.

I prefer the large, monolithic, dark, and rambling sort of abandoned places. Especially the underground ones. :)

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[info]natertots
2007-10-26 08:03 pm UTC (link)
heh, the grass is always greener, eh? :)

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You have the Stanley Hotel
[info]tjsvixen
2007-10-27 01:07 pm UTC (link)
Several cool ghost towns and haunted Inns. The problem with Colorado is it takes you two to three hours to get to everything. :-) Granted the Stanley is only haunted not abandoned but still. There are other abandoned things and almost EVERY state has a sanatarium, some were just turned into hospitals.

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[info]fllnangel17
2007-10-26 05:08 pm UTC (link)
Excellent and creepy photos, they definitely put me in the right frame of mind for my trip to Rolling Hills tonight. Waverly Hills has been on the list of places to go ever since I stumbled upon it, both through the web and Ghost Hunters, but it's doubtful it'll be anytime soon. Whatever is done to the place, I hope they are mindful/respectful of those that still reside there.

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[info]jj_maccrimmon
2007-10-26 05:20 pm UTC (link)
I genuinely believe that they are being very respectful. As one of the guides and a member of the security staff both said, they have to be. The place has a mind of it's own and some of the current residents regularly make their prescence known.

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[info]samtyr
2007-10-26 05:24 pm UTC (link)
This is all very cool. I am so glad to know that the building is being restored. Its use as a haunted resort should be very interesting. Thank you for sharing this.

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[info]jj_maccrimmon
2007-10-26 06:45 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, think of the sories that will come out of most visits.

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[info]meggiemarin
2007-10-26 05:41 pm UTC (link)
I live in WV, I really should take a day trip down there sometime. It definitely looks worth it.

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[info]jj_maccrimmon
2007-10-26 06:35 pm UTC (link)
It would certainly be a fun visit. Be sure to contact them ahead of schedule because they've already noted that ALL tours for the remainder of this year are sold out. Unless you are on a night schedule, it probably requires a hotel stay after the tour (all are at dusk or night-time).

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[info]annoyedannushka
2007-10-26 06:01 pm UTC (link)
These are wonderful. I loved reading the commentary. That last picture is amazing. It kind of looks like someone is standing in the window as well.

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[info]jj_maccrimmon
2007-10-26 06:41 pm UTC (link)
I tried to get better detail, but the graininess was terrible. That is effectively a 400mm shot (200mm with cropping, light enhancement and zoom added), shot with me braced against the car. I had to (briefly) put a spot light on the tower to get it in focus. That caused a security guy to freak out and tell us to shut it off, with a comment that night photography wasn't allowed. That made me a bit suspictious but we were looking for scams and parlor tricks most of the visit.

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[info]annoyedannushka
2007-10-27 06:12 am UTC (link)
Hmm, does make you wonder.

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[info]snapelike
2007-10-26 06:05 pm UTC (link)
Great pictures, and a very interesting back story on the sanatorium. No matter if former inhabitants are able to make their presence know, I have no doubt the atmosphere must be incredible.

Your comment and the additional info adds so much to the pics, thanks for a very interesting hour browsing through the past history of the place.

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[info]jj_maccrimmon
2007-10-26 06:44 pm UTC (link)
Thank for the kind words. The night we were there, the atmosphere was positively electric. I've always believed that these abandoned or decayed places have stories to tell. They merely lack a (living) voice to speak them. That's where we come in.

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[info]nxdxgwen
2007-10-26 06:58 pm UTC (link)
OOO creepy! What a cool place to explore. And as always great pics!

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[info]misstiajournal
2007-10-26 07:46 pm UTC (link)
in pix #9, there is clearly a shadow on the other side of the window....is that a reflection from someone up the stairs?? it looks to be standing on the other side of the window though....does anyone else see this person's shadow??

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[info]jj_maccrimmon
2007-10-26 07:51 pm UTC (link)
:D You noticed that too. Lack of a better description, I 'saw' movement and managed to squeeze off a shot before it was gone. There was no-one ahead of us on the stairs when I got this.

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[info]misstiajournal
2007-10-26 08:44 pm UTC (link)
yeah, i can sometimes see 'people' when there are no people, well i mean, they are people, just not flesh and blood people.....so i keep my eye open especially when someone posts pix like these!

that person isn't really on the stairs, they are behind that window...what is that a roof there or something? that's where they are standing....

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[info]jj_maccrimmon
2007-10-26 09:30 pm UTC (link)
There's nothing beyond that window but open air 36 feet above the gravel driveway (and supplies) below.

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[info]misstiajournal
2007-10-26 09:30 pm UTC (link)
someone was floating! :)

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[info]cosmiccircus
2007-10-26 07:47 pm UTC (link)
I'm not a big believer in ghosts, but I will admit that's a great post and stories about a really eerie place!

Great photos as usual!

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[info]jj_maccrimmon
2007-10-26 07:51 pm UTC (link)
Thank you :)

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[info]shuyobob
2007-10-26 10:12 pm UTC (link)
I got the heebie jeebies just looking at these pictures. I've always been really sensitive to presences, and probably couldn't go within 100 feet of that building! Your daughter is very brave, lol.

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[info]spooky
2007-10-26 10:28 pm UTC (link)
Great pictures!

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lemononthepiano
2007-10-27 01:39 am UTC (link)
I usually skip abandoned hospital pics, but this was incredible. In a way I could feel the presences of residents whilst looking at the pictures. Hopefully I can get out there sometime next year :)

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[info]jj_maccrimmon
2007-10-27 02:42 am UTC (link)
Wow, thank you. That's an inpressive comment and compliment.

If you can make it to Louisville, plan ahead on reservations for the tours. They seem to sell out well in advance.

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[info]monsterbrain
2007-10-27 01:58 am UTC (link)
The Sci-Fi Channel series "Ghost Hunters" will be doing a live show from there on Halloween--

http://www.scifi.com/ghosthunters/sanatorium/

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[info]wolfmouse
2007-10-27 03:42 pm UTC (link)
damn, you beat me to the comment! *l* But yea, it's a 6 hour long live show. Hurrah! To bad I was planning on being out at that time....but I am making my hubby tape it for me.

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[info]monsterbrain
2007-10-27 04:02 pm UTC (link)
Here's hoping it won't be like Geraldo and Al Capone's vault.

Although just looking at this building is entertainment enough, I guess. :D

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[info]wolfmouse
2007-10-27 04:04 pm UTC (link)
I don't really recall the first time they went there, but it was interesting. And last years had some activity to it as I recall, more so in the midnight hour. I was at work last year though so missed that part. boo!

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[info]monsterbrain
2007-10-27 04:15 pm UTC (link)
You need DVR! :)

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[info]wolfmouse
2007-10-27 04:34 pm UTC (link)
agreed. but I'm in the stone age with vhs....at least it's part of the tv....along with a dvd player in the tv...heh.

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[info]chootoy
2007-10-27 02:50 am UTC (link)
I.Am.Drop.Dead.JEALOUS of you!!! I would LOVE to visit this place.
Thank you soooo much for sharing these fantastic pictures.

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[info]jolantru
2007-10-27 03:19 am UTC (link)
Whoa. That is one powerful and interesting ride.

I swear I could see faces.

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[info]darkelady
2007-10-27 03:54 am UTC (link)
Man,this post gave me the willies. I have always been afraid of shadow people and looking at those photos scared me.
Great post though.

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In #11, well I think number 11
[info]tjsvixen
2007-10-27 01:14 pm UTC (link)
You talk about the shadows in the hall and you distinctly have a three dimensional object at the end of the hall making it's own shadow which shows it has mass. Was this a person or one of the shadow people?

If it was a shadow people you should send the picture to TAPS (Ghost hunters groups website) because that exactly matches the thermal images they have caught in the past, height and such.

Interesting.

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Re: In #11, well I think number 11
[info]jj_maccrimmon
2007-10-27 03:45 pm UTC (link)
It was a shadow person as far as I can recall. Although there was another tour group in the complex, they were one floor above us at the time. No other staff was in the building either.

:)

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[info]monsterbrain
2007-10-27 04:14 pm UTC (link)
That video of the "ghost kids" is certainly spine-chilling. But thinking about it from a "how to de-bunk" perspective, I have to wonder if it could possibly be adult humans who are really far down the hallway and would thus appear shorter.

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[info]jj_maccrimmon
2007-10-27 04:24 pm UTC (link)
The hallway in each wing is long but from the position they were filming from, they were only about 60 down the hall from the one of the nurse's stations in the background. Unless you're using military night vision or heat sensing equipment, most commercial gear wouldn't reach out beyond 80 to 100 feet with definition. The distance and heat signature are pretty much constants in this case, so it can't be a viewing parallax.

I tend to believe that the station got something.

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[info]monsterbrain
2007-10-27 04:44 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the info. I'm not familiar with the equipment, so I'm just theorizing from a lay person's perspective.

I'm Atheist, so I don't believe in the existence of spirits, but I am interested in paranormal activity and I wonder if there might be something non-spiritual to explain such evidence of "ghosts." Even if conventional science doesn't understand it yet.

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[info]etymological
2007-10-27 05:59 pm UTC (link)
That "interesting blur" in the last is just the way the camera caught the gargoyles. It exactly lines up with the gargoyles and the roof.
I've had it happen many, many times with "steady handed" long exposures - no matter how steady your hands, there will always be some jitter and wobbling, and it's magnified more than people would even expect in long exposures.

Unless you're referring to the shadow in the window, which is really only vaguely person-shaped (I could go on about how human brains will innately process shapes and shadows into faces and figures - it's just how brains work - but I don't have enough time on my lunch break).

Some of the pictures are pretty neat, though.

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[info]jj_maccrimmon
2007-10-28 06:20 am UTC (link)
The interesting blur is more form just that it came out with one one streak of color. I merely was commenting that its an interesting effect. With over 15 years of photography experience, I already knew it was from the long exposure and unintentional movement.

The vague person shape is merely exposed brickwork in one room.

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wow
[info]tschondoe
2007-10-28 02:20 pm UTC (link)
wow this is pretty damn spooky! thanks for sharing!

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Re: wow
[info]jj_maccrimmon
2007-10-28 05:12 pm UTC (link)
You're welcome

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