The one that got away... ([info]fragileheart) wrote in [info]_sytycd_,
@ 2008-06-18 17:14:00
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Something amusing while we wait for tonight's performance show.

Why So You Think You Can Dance is Better Than American Idol: 10 Reasons

If You like American Idol, You'll LOVE So You Think You Can Dance


By Les Jacobs
I have watched both American Idol and So You Think You Can Dance for several years and I find myself growing more bored of the former and more riveted by the latter. Here are 10 reasons why:

1. So You Think You Can Dance has better stage performances than American Idol. The reason for this is simple: there is music plus dancing on So You Think You Can Dance, while there's only music (singing) on American Idol. It's true that some Idol contestants put on a decent show while they sing, but the worst of Dance's top 10 put on better stage performances than any Idol winners have to date. There's simply more going on on stage in So You Think You Can Dance.

2. So You Think You Can Dance has better music than American Idol. It's odd that this is true, as Idol is all about singing, but it is. The music on Idol is limited by the vocal capabilities of the contestants, while dancers can pretty much dance to anything. As a result, there's a much greater range of music on So You Think You Can Dance than on American Idol.


3. So You Think You Can Dance is more educational then American Idol. This is what makes me look forward to watching each episode and each season of So You Think You Can Dance.There is so much about dance I don't know that each episode is a true learning experience. You're shown different forms and styles of dance and you're exposed to different types of music you wouldn't normally listen to. American Idol seems to repeat the same old songs again and again. Yes, there are a few new and original songs every year, but they are rarely very good or even interesting. (At least to my ears.)

4. So You Think You Can Dance contestants are more talented.In order to make the top 20, competitors have to prove they are both exceptional dancers and able to learn complicated choreography in one hour. On American Idol, all contestants have to do is demonstrate that they can sing and learn a few new songsovernight. Granted, singing is a talent (I should know, I am one and I get paid), and I'm not poo-pooing that. But it's much harder to dance at the level So You Think You Can Dance competitors dance at in the top 20 than sing at the level American Idol contestants sing at in its top 20.

5.So You Think You Can Dance contestants know more. It's impossible to make the top 20 in So You Think You Can Dance without having taken dance classes. There simply is no way untrained dancers can learn complicated choreography in short order without some formal training. Contestants on American Idol can certainly make the top 20 without formal voice lessons, however. They may have sung in choirs and school musicals, maybe even local theater productions (like Clay Aiken), but they need not have had vocal training with a voice instructor. As a result, So You Think You Can Dance contestants know more about how to use their bodies than American Idol competitors know how to use their voices.

6. So You Think You Can Dance contestants are healthier. You won't find any So You Think You Can Dance contestants looking like American Idol's Ruben Studdard. I'm not criticizing the man--I like him and enjoy hearing him sing--but I think you'll agree that he simply doesn't look as healthy as So You Think You Can Dance contestants. Dancers have to exercise hard virtually every day to stay at the top of their game; singers don't. Even when So You Think You Can Dance contestants are on the heavy side, they're muscular and glowing with health.

7. So You Think You Can Dance contestants are more attractive. This is admittedly subjective, but there's nothing like a combination of good looks and a physically fit body to bring out the true beauty of a person. Yes, on American Idol contestants can be stunning, but this is often more the result of a clever stylist and talented makeup artist than anything else.

8. The judges on So You Think You Can Dance are more intelligent and helpful than those on American Idol. On So You Think You Can Dance every single judge has something insightful and relevant to say about a performance. Mary Murphy can get carried away sometimes, it's true, but when she does (usually by screaming with enthusiasm) it's always for good reason; she knows her stuff and is, by any measure, an expert--all So You Think You Can Dance judges are. Meanwhile, on American Idol, you have Paula Abdul.

9.
So You Think You Can Dance is rarely boring, American Idol often is. How many times can you listen to renditions of the same song? How about unenthusiastic renditions of old, boring songs? On So You Think You Can Dance each performance offers up something new and different, whether it be music or movement. I hate to miss a single performance on So You Think You Can Dance. I have come to care less and less whether I miss any on American Idol.

10. While American Idol is growing stale, So You Think You Can Dance gets more exciting and fresh each season. American Idol seems to be running out of good songsfor its contestants to sing. This is the only explanation I can find as to why they keep going further back in history for material each season. It's gotten to the point where critics are saying American Idol is now more popular among seniors than teens.

So You Think You Can Dance
, on the other hand, is attracting a greater number of viewers of all ages each season. This is because, as noted above, the musicis more interesting and diverse, there is so much more one can do in dance than in song, and better dancers are competing to get on the show.

American Idol is far from dead, and I'm not trying to write its obituary. I found the latest season to be one of the best. But while American Idol can be entertaining, So You Think You Can Dance is truly must-see TV. For me, anyway.

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[info]crystalfairie
2008-06-18 09:19 pm UTC (link)
I laughed and had to agree with some of these.

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[info]fragileheart
2008-06-18 09:21 pm UTC (link)
IKR?? As silly as it may sound they are all valid points. =D

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[info]caaamwhore
2008-06-18 09:22 pm UTC (link)
i agree with 1-4 and, to a certain degree, 6-10.

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[info]fragileheart
2008-06-18 09:23 pm UTC (link)
have you noticed that we both practically LIVE in this comm as of lately???

O_o

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[info]caaamwhore
2008-06-18 09:26 pm UTC (link)
yes. but this is because SYTYCD is like a little gnat that sneaks into my ear and somehow gets to my brain, and it's latched onto it. won't let go until school starts because, at that point, my brain shrivels up and the gnat can no longer live on the fluids that would normally be there.

:D

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[info]fragileheart
2008-06-18 09:28 pm UTC (link)
At least you have no school now! I'm still sitting here at work and my home page is this comm! LMAO!!!! I know exactly what you mean though, it's a total addiction/all I think about/what the hell is wrong with me/can you imagine if it were on more than once a year!?!?!

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[info]caaamwhore
2008-06-18 09:32 pm UTC (link)
no school, but i do have work. tonight, to be specific, from 6 to 11 pm. this means i won't be able to see the episode until i get home, and by then, i won't be able to vote. MEANING I'M WORRIED OUT OF MY MIND FOR MATT AND KOURTNI AND IF THEY GO HOME CAT WILL DO HER THING, "and if your favorite went home tonight, it's because of your votes" and i'll feel bad.

if it were on twice a year, i'd have a minor heart attack.

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[info]fragileheart
2008-06-18 09:35 pm UTC (link)
I don't think they'll get sent home. I'm gonna vote for them =D

Also, I think that even if they were sent in the bottom 3 tomorrow they'll be saved by the "jiges". Like HELLO!!! They first need to get rid of Jessica before they get rid of Koutrni! She's like the next sacrificial lamb!!!! I think they already have it all planned out so they send Kourtni/Matt to the Top 10. *crosses fingers*

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[info]caaamwhore
2008-06-18 09:42 pm UTC (link)
be sure to vote twice as hard as you normally would on my behalf. :P

i have no doubt the judges are plotting against mattni. >__> my reasons include spoilers, though, so i put it in white here:okay so the first week nigel says that matt is completely void of personality, he's dancing like he's above it or whatever, and now this week they're doing the fox trot. it's not like you can be completely personable during that dance. but you've already seen the spoilers and i have too, and it says they give matt a good response but not a good one for kourtni. THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE US HATE BOTH OF THEM. bleuuuuuuuuuugh.

or i'm pathetic and read too far into things.

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[info]fragileheart
2008-06-18 09:50 pm UTC (link)
LMAO!!!!! You're freaking out too much girl!!! They'll be ok, I can feel it. ;P

And I promise to vote twice as hard for you.

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[info]caaamwhore
2008-06-18 09:52 pm UTC (link)
okay. well, if you promise, then i feel reassured. :P

(i just get too attached is all.)

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[info]fragileheart
2008-06-18 10:07 pm UTC (link)
I get really attached too..... and DEFENSIVE! =X

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[info]caaamwhore
2008-06-19 04:08 am UTC (link)
i got sick tonight and came home from work early, so i got to vote. :)

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[info]jacedesbff
2008-06-19 02:32 am UTC (link)
*joins you in your addiction to this comm*

if it were on twice a year, i'd have a minor heart attack. You and me both, babe!!! Hey, I'm just ridiculously grateful that this comes on in the summer and not the school year. I'm a teacher at a school with a ridiculously early start time. I'd be late every single Thursday and Friday. *snortlaughs*

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[info]caaamwhore
2008-06-19 04:09 am UTC (link)
eh, i'm used to getting no sleep, and our school starts fairly early as well. :P i'd risk being late in the morning, this show is worth it.

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[info]punklegolas
2008-06-18 09:41 pm UTC (link)
#1-4 and #9...YES.

lol @ #7 and #10. :D

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[info]rainwash
2008-06-18 09:47 pm UTC (link)
1,2,3,9,10 i agree with

5 i don't though because there have been a few contestants without any formal training (cedric from last season comes to mind right now)

for me, i def. like SYTYCD more than AI :D

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[info]lovely_fraulein
2008-06-18 10:01 pm UTC (link)
Sorry, but as much as I love So You Think You Can Dance, I still think American Idol is the better show.
>w< although I reallyreally do love So You Think You Can Dance.

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[info]lily_ofthecity
2008-06-18 10:03 pm UTC (link)
I definitely agree about the music thing.
I mean, on AI, you hear "Proud Mary" sung every ten seconds until you want to scream. But on SYTYCD, we get to hear stuff like Leah Andreone, Me'shell Ndegeocello and Roisin Murphy. I found some of my favourite musicians through SYTYCD :D

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[info]fragileheart
2008-06-18 10:06 pm UTC (link)
OMG! I agree!!! I love the fact that the show has turned me on to so many artist I probably would've never heard of had it not been for the show.

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[info]devilzsoup
2008-06-18 10:06 pm UTC (link)
lol awesome! i like them all but numbers 4&5 especially... as a professional dancer it bugs me that people who have never danced in their lives think they can go and audition for this show/anything else and get through miraculously without any training at all. I've seen people at auditions who've rarely been inside a studio and yet claim to be professional dancers... because they've watched every season of SYTYCD! Seriously! It's a fantastic show but some people need to pay more attention to who gets through on it and why before they decide they're ready for a 'professional dance career' LOL

Although to be fair I never really watch any reality show other than SYTYCD... they're all just too boring! nice list!!

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[info]vanilla_coke91
2008-06-18 10:17 pm UTC (link)
FOR. THE. WIN.

SYTYCD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AI x10.

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[info]fragileheart
2008-06-18 10:20 pm UTC (link)
YAY!!!

This comment deserves a pom pom cheerleader!

*\~o~/*

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[info]fallenangels607
2008-06-18 10:40 pm UTC (link)
While I do agree with most of these, I think to say that SYTYCD contestants are more talented is both unfair and untrue. They can't be compared. The author might not be "poo-pooing" the stamina that it takes to sing, but they are certainly downplaying it to some degree. Dancing and singing are in entirely different leagues. To say one is better or more difficult than the other isn't real credible.

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[info]i_luv_stanislav
2008-06-18 10:53 pm UTC (link)
6 & 7 are quite bogus. Superficial much???
and 4, I'd have to say it's pretty equal because there are some GOD AWFUL contestants on SYTYCD!

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[info]theonenonlygurl
2008-06-19 03:03 am UTC (link)
Exactly. Big Papa anyone?

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[info]devon_carrots
2008-06-18 11:07 pm UTC (link)
blahblah omg someone should make the discussion post noww ahhhh can;t wait

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[info]fragileheart
2008-06-18 11:08 pm UTC (link)
OMG!!!! Who is going to do it???

If no one is I'll go ahead and make it....

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[info]fragileheart
2008-06-18 11:13 pm UTC (link)
DONE!!!! Come on over to the fiesta!!! =D

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[info]just_darkblue
2008-06-19 12:51 am UTC (link)
i think the one thing better about AI is that you get to see more of the contestants after the show is over. you don't see the dancers too much unless you're a dancer after the show.

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[info]hannah_or_hanna
2008-06-19 11:35 pm UTC (link)
It's one of the things that sets AI apart from other reality talent shows. You take America's Next Top Model or Top Chef or something, and yes those people may be really talented, but those "professions" don't stay in the public eye. Whereas a hit singer becomes a pop culture magnet.

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[info]genrocks
2008-06-19 02:21 am UTC (link)
SO TRUE x 1000000000000000000

This is what I have been saying all along.

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[info]jacedesbff
2008-06-19 02:44 am UTC (link)
So You Think You Can Dance contestants know more about how to use their bodies than American Idol competitors know how to use their voices. I think that's a very true statement. Here's my take on it - I have a vocal background and a theatre background. I have a degree in Theatre Ed and am a drama teacher and I feel quite quite confident teaching people how to do theatre. I came by my vocal talent via genetics, however, and I struggle to teach my students how to sing (which means I fudge on occasion when it comes to our musicals), b/c for me it's like teaching someone how to breathe. "Um, open your mouth and sing." I see AI vs. SYTYCD the same.

I know many people who have gone to school to become even better singers, and they worked incredibly hard to do so. It does not begin to be necessary to do that, however, in order to win American Idol. It requires concentration, natural talent, determination and conviction. But it does not require years of hard work. SYTYCD does.

Like you, I've been thinking about this lately. Even the contestants with little formal training (i.e. Cedric) have worked themselves and their bodies to the absolute limit for years in order to get to the level they're at. Simply put, it requires more previous life-long dedication to hold your own on SYTYCD than it does on AI.

One other thing I'd like to add to your list - the dancers on SYTYCD are all so incredibly grateful to be there. You can be the most wonderful dancer in the world, but in order to make a living at it, you have to have a choreographer and a venue, and they're just flat-out hard to come by. There are *so* many more opportunities for singers to share their talents than dancers. I wouldn't say they make more money, but speaking in terms of odds, there are a heck of a lot more ways for singers to get heard than there are for dancers to get seen. Not that AI contestants aren't grateful to be there. For the most part, they really, really are. But the dancers on SYTYCD are SOOOOO grateful just to have the chance to dance every day. I find it humbling.

*climbs off of soapbox*

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Thanks for the opportunity to share! :-)

Edited at 2008-06-19 02:46 am UTC

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[info]zanzou_chan
2008-06-19 02:57 am UTC (link)
5 - wrong.
6 - Nobody remembers season 1 anymore. :

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[info]x_katethegreat
2008-06-19 04:22 am UTC (link)
Yeah Allen was a big guy... but I think there is a huge difference between him and Ruben Studdard by virtue of the fact that Allen danced and loved to dance so at least he was exercising. Ruben was a few high notes away from a heart attack.

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[info]technocolours
2008-06-19 03:21 am UTC (link)

I would agree with this so much more if David Cook and Michael Johns didn't go and sex up American Idol. Haha.

I like the two shows for different reasons. I think there is a lot of talent from contestants from each show that is pretty behind the scenes, so to say that one show is more talented than another is pretty untrue.

But I get way more into SYTYCD.

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[info]hannah_or_hanna
2008-06-19 11:33 pm UTC (link)
I have watched both American Idol and So You Think You Can Dance for several years I had to LOL at this remark. Because SYTYCD has really been on for SEVERAL years. This person probably started watching in S2 like the rest of the world.

I don't think the fact that there's music AND dance on SYTYCD makes it at all anymore entertaining than AI. If the music or dancing sucks on either show, then it sucks. So there's just twice as much opportunity for you to dislike either the music or the dancing. And in anycase, the music on SYTYCD (during performances, which I assume is what he means) is merely recorded, while the singing and "dancing" on AI is live.

And it's unfair to compare a studio recording of a professional singer to a live performance by an amateur, by way of comparing the music on AI vs. SYTYCD.

I've debated in my head whether SYTYCD contestants are more talented than AI contestants. I don't think it's a fair equation. Anyone can sing. A lot of us think we're "decent" singers, or we realize that while we can sing we suck and wouldn't do it in public. Whereas many people never learn to really dance and are vaguely terrified and shamed just watching the dancers on SYTYCD. The person who wrote this is himself a singer, so surely is not as in awe of other singers as they are of dancers. And I think this writer also underestimated the amount of work Idol contestants have to do. They have to learn a song or two or three each week for their solo, amdist all their increasing media responsibilities, also a group number and choreography.

I do think that it takes more effort to be on SYTYCD. But I don't think it's as wide a margin as this person would have us believe. People may have natural singing talent, but you can't have natural dancing talent at this level. You don't just roll out of bed and get in line for SYTYCD and make it anywhere. (Oh, I see they make this point in #5.)

LOL, I don't know what #6 has to do with one show being superior over the other. Unless he wants to flat out admit he's just there to ogle flesh. Anyhow #6 and #7 are the same points, aren't they?

I definitely agree with #8!

I think #9 is a valid point with this person only because he already admits to being bored with AI and riveted by SYTYCD. So this "point" should be self-evident. And it's pretty subjective. I would say that AI has had more and more filler and that is what makes it slower. Not the performances.

#10 is the point he was making in the intro to his point. He says "AI is getting more boring, while SYTYCD is getting more exiciting. Here's why: AI is getting more boring, while SYTYCD is getting more exiciting." That logic doesn't make any sense.

there is so much more one can do in dance than in song Huh? Fallacaious argument much? This is just comparing apples and oranges. Vocally, there's more one can do in song than dance. Dancewise, there's more one can do in dance than in song.

Cue all the "don't take it so seriously" comments. It's not that I'm taking it seriously or am deeply offended by this. It's just when I see fallacious arguments, I have to counter. It's my nature.

I DO agree that SYTYCD is picking up steam, while AI has become this giant leviathon tyying to stumble along and unable to bear it's own weight (supposedly, next year it will be more stream-lined?). But I think this guy is making completely the wrong arguments as to why that is so.

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[info]potc_fanatic111
2008-06-20 08:09 am UTC (link)
I HAD to post this on IDF. XD

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