oblyvia ([info]oblyvia) wrote in [info]_discussion,
@ 2006-12-08 08:36:00
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OK people....
I thought it was pretty damn clear (and close to unanimous) that we did not want a mod--that we liked the group the way it was before. Yes? Yes. I am seeing more and more requests to step into the whole troll situation though.

Be clear: I don't want to do anything. That was the point, remember? That was what people wanted, and that is what I offered (Epi offered nude pics and banning of teh gheyz, but...ya know). [info]epictetus_rex and I have already agreed to do nothing, and especially not without us agreeing on it, but I want to see the results of the poll, just to be sure we're all on the same page here.

Poll #884595 Moderating
Open to: All, detailed results viewable to: All

Do you want us mods to do anything or not?

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NO, NO MODS
16 (41.0%)

Yes, small changes (user info, etc)
4 (10.3%)

Yes, ban people if we vote for it
16 (41.0%)

Other (comment below)
3 (7.7%)

When you voted to have a mod rather than a blank account, what was your reason?

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To prevent the same thing from happening again
21 (65.6%)

To see actual changes in the community
4 (12.5%)

Other (comment below)
7 (21.9%)

Did you vote with "non-moderation" in mind?

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Yes, I voted for someone who would NOT change anything
17 (47.2%)

Yes, I voted for someone who WOULD change things
6 (16.7%)

No, I voted for a different reason
13 (36.1%)



OK, done now. Back to our regularly scheduled banter.

Edit: Don't take this poll to mean we are going to, or even want to, do anything. We're not. We dont want to. I just wanted to be sure you all agreed, as a few people pointed out that we did vote for mods as opposed to a blank account. I figured that was just to prevent the same thing from happening again, and it appears I'm right on that. DON'T WORRY. I am a lazy, lazy anarchist. And, well, we all know Epi...lol.



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[info]entropicflux
2006-12-08 03:40 pm UTC (link)
seriously, it's not that hard to just ignore revenge of cleve. she's annoying, sure, but she's not really offensive.

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[info]oblyvia
2006-12-08 03:53 pm UTC (link)
That's what I keep saying. Scroll past it!!

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[info]entropicflux
2006-12-08 03:57 pm UTC (link)
i know. you're one of a few voices of reason out there, in the great white-yonder of canada.

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[info]fizzyland
2006-12-08 04:01 pm UTC (link)
That said, post after post after post of videos in this community is kind of damn annoying - like little Jeffry who won't stop pounding his drum while I'm trying to watch a video in the next room. Eventually my zen snaps and I have to go beat his ass.

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[info]igorius_maximus
2006-12-08 04:52 pm UTC (link)
it's not the scrolling that annoys me, it's the fact that she posts countless pointless videos despite people begging her to stop.

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[info]entropicflux
2006-12-08 04:54 pm UTC (link)
but there are bitches all over the place. how do you deal with them in the real world?

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(no subject) - [info]igorius_maximus, 2006-12-08 04:57 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]igorius_maximus, 2006-12-08 05:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]entropicflux, 2006-12-08 06:19 pm UTC
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[info]kai
2006-12-08 07:35 pm UTC (link)
This is still an utterly moronic argument. Yes, we can ignore it. Why should we have to?

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[info]oblyvia
2006-12-08 08:17 pm UTC (link)
Because this is the only unmoderated group in the sea of hundreds of thousands of moderated groups. Why change what makes this group unique?

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(no subject) - [info]puf_almighty, 2006-12-08 11:19 pm UTC

[info]entropicflux
2006-12-08 09:25 pm UTC (link)
what do you mean why should you have to? why SHOULDN'T you have to? since when WASN'T the world filled with useless assholes? since when DIDN'T you have to deal with it?

fuck, if you want to be saved the effort of taking care of yourself, go join a fucking moderated community. there are those everywhere. why did you come to an unmoderated community, just to bitch about how you shouldn't have to deal with the consequences of your freedom? you're right, this is fucking moronic. you should totally leave and find someplace more accomodating to your bland lifestyle.

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(no subject) - [info]oblyvia, 2006-12-08 09:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]entropicflux, 2006-12-09 12:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oblyvia, 2006-12-09 12:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]entropicflux, 2006-12-09 06:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puf_almighty, 2006-12-08 11:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]entropicflux, 2006-12-09 12:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puf_almighty, 2006-12-09 12:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]entropicflux, 2006-12-09 12:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puf_almighty, 2006-12-09 12:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]entropicflux, 2006-12-09 06:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kai, 2006-12-09 02:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oblyvia, 2006-12-09 02:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kai, 2006-12-09 02:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oblyvia, 2006-12-09 03:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kai, 2006-12-09 03:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oblyvia, 2006-12-09 03:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kai, 2006-12-09 04:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]epictetus_rex, 2006-12-09 06:13 pm UTC

[info]leiamanda
2006-12-08 09:31 pm UTC (link)
I've been ignoring him. But when my fucking friends page won't load for 2 minutes because it's waiting on goddamn youtube.com, I want some results.

I don't think the mods should ban anyone. But I DO think they should go through and put that shit behind LJ cuts.

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[info]entropicflux
2006-12-08 09:40 pm UTC (link)
haha, sounds like you need to upgrade. or do what i do and stay downgraded. my page won't even load the pictures. of course, you could start your own spam war with this cleve bitch. make a throw-away account and spam the fuck out of her. better yet, get your friends to do the same thing at the same time. i don't know why it pisses people off so much, but it does.

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(no subject) - [info]puf_almighty, 2006-12-08 11:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]entropicflux, 2006-12-09 12:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puf_almighty, 2006-12-09 12:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]entropicflux, 2006-12-09 12:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puf_almighty, 2006-12-09 12:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]katiebgood, 2006-12-09 02:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]entropicflux, 2006-12-09 06:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puf_almighty, 2006-12-09 06:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]entropicflux, 2006-12-09 04:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]katiebgood, 2006-12-09 08:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]entropicflux, 2006-12-09 09:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]katiebgood, 2006-12-09 11:36 pm UTC

[info]katiebgood
2006-12-09 02:37 am UTC (link)
I just had LJ put in placeholders for videos and large photos so I only see them if I want to. It's in your account options somewhere. I did it ages ago.

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(no subject) - [info]ain_soph_dei, 2006-12-09 04:09 am UTC

[info]bellisaurius
2006-12-08 03:47 pm UTC (link)
Katie had a made a point a couple days ago that talked about voting. The theory is that if you design a voting contest correctly, you can get pretty much any result you want.

In this case, alliances were formed, and things were done based on the set of rules that were understood going in. It was a fair election with a definite idea behind it, which everyone understood, even if all most certainly didn't agree. To bow to pressure afterwards is changing those initial rule sets and assumptions, which really would mean we'd have to go back to square one.

Now, we all knew going in, that because the power existed to do things, that people would, well, want to do things. This is fine. It's an open discussion, but in the end, you two are complete autocrats. The only punishment that exists to you now is people leaving the community. Not just threatening, but actually leaving.

Give it some time, gently tell people "Not yet". Allow time to pass so that we get to see how the whole "unmoderated moderation" goes. If someone does something really bad, feel free to exercise the authority. Otherwise, take caution and just wait a month. Then see if people are still begging, and we can come back to this.

Anarchy, as in the absence of rules is ostensibly a good thing here. Anarchy, as in mob rule is not.

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[info]oblyvia
2006-12-08 03:53 pm UTC (link)
Oh worry not, I have no intention of going back on what I said. I have no desire to do anything to this community. I have no issue scrolling past his posts, either. I wish everyone would just ignore him!

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[info]bellisaurius
2006-12-08 04:05 pm UTC (link)
Good. I was guessing you had some ovaries to you. I wanted, Oblyvia, the Terror of Morovia, not Oblyvia, the benevolent monarch who gives her power to the people like some wimpy British ruler.

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(no subject) - [info]oblyvia, 2006-12-08 04:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ain_soph_dei, 2006-12-09 04:12 am UTC

[info]oblyvia
2006-12-08 03:54 pm UTC (link)
OK, good. It appears that I was correct in that people dont want us to do anything. Good, good. Anarchy is my friend.

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[info]policraticus
2006-12-08 04:18 pm UTC (link)
Two people reply to the post, one of whom is the other mod, and you decide that this forms a consensus?

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[info]entropicflux
2006-12-08 04:21 pm UTC (link)
oblyvia is the only mod I saw... that 'i' is capitalized for emphasis.

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(no subject) - [info]oblyvia, 2006-12-08 07:27 pm UTC

[info]puf_almighty
2006-12-08 11:22 pm UTC (link)
It appears to me that the vote is pretty split. Put it up to a vote, whether or not we ban revengeofcleve.

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(no subject) - [info]katiebgood, 2006-12-09 02:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puf_almighty, 2006-12-09 03:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oblyvia, 2006-12-09 03:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puf_almighty, 2006-12-09 04:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]katiebgood, 2006-12-09 07:14 am UTC

[info]mayorbrotherdan
2006-12-08 05:44 pm UTC (link)
I want to see long posts, posts containing large pictures, and posts with videos put behind LJ cuts. I don't like the idea of banning people, but I think we are going to arrive at a situation where someone is going to need to be banned at some point. I would like to take other measures first (LJ cuts) and see how that works. But I would never rule out banning if problems persist. At present, I don't think banning is warranted at present, but a few more weeks like this and I would consider it.

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[info]leiamanda
2006-12-08 09:33 pm UTC (link)
YES FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

My friends page can't even load (only 20 entries) because it's been stuck waiting for youtube FOREVER

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(no subject) - [info]puf_almighty, 2006-12-08 11:23 pm UTC

[info]katiebgood
2006-12-08 08:33 pm UTC (link)
::sets up lawnchair, grabs iced tea and squints at it:: Hey, anybody got those little umbrella things? ::pause::

Hmph. ::gets up, gets little umbrella thing, puts it in iced tea, sits::

Cheers! ::suns self::

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[info]daermon42
2006-12-08 09:28 pm UTC (link)
hehe your just too happy to lose your unasked for title of forum goddess

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(no subject) - [info]katiebgood, 2006-12-09 02:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]daermon42, 2006-12-09 02:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ain_soph_dei, 2006-12-09 04:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]katiebgood, 2006-12-09 07:15 am UTC

[info]deadspook
2006-12-09 12:21 am UTC (link)
At the very least, can we agree to institute a limit on the number of times one user can post per week? like 5? I'm tired of the spam from habitual offenders.

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[info]oblyvia
2006-12-09 12:57 am UTC (link)
Gah, no! This community is remaining the way it was last week, last month and last year. I agree he's annoying, but he's getting better, and limiting people's use is just as banning them.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-12-09 02:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]daermon42, 2006-12-09 02:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puf_almighty, 2006-12-09 04:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]katiebgood, 2006-12-09 07:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puf_almighty, 2006-12-09 07:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]katiebgood, 2006-12-09 08:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puf_almighty, 2006-12-09 09:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]katiebgood, 2006-12-09 11:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]primrosepath77, 2006-12-09 03:07 pm UTC

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