devinkye00 ([info]devinkye00) wrote in [info]011808,
@ 2008-01-24 09:56:00
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Poll-esque thing
So I saw cloverfield the day it was released, I mean I had been waiting to see it for nearly 5 months just to see it, and it astonishes me that I hear a-lot of people don't like it. I just came to ask an opinion so I can better my understanding.

Do you think that the people who spent those 5 months researching and trying to find clues to what the movie was about, the people who dedicated there time to finding anything and everything that could lead us somewhere, do you think they will have appreciated it more than the people who did no research?

I mean... I know for a fact that the kids in my class who said this movie was crap and the tabloids who say it was crap didn't do nearly as much research as we did on this community. Seriously, was it just me or was EVERYONE excited for this movie to come out? To them it was just another movie, to us, I'm sure it was the greatest movie of the year!

Let me know what you think!

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[info]lovediamond
2008-01-25 07:25 pm UTC (link)
I didn't do any "research" and I maybe checked out the viral marketing once or twice, without any idea of what was going on since I hadn't followed it from the beginning, and I still loved the movie. I think Cloverfield is really about experiencing only what the characters themselves are experiencing, so no background is needed to appreciate it. I know some people are dissatisfied and feel they didn't get enough out of the movie (wanting to know more about the monster, wanting to know who was behind it, wanting to know if it was destroyed in the end and all) but if you ask me they missed the point.

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[info]devinkye00
2008-01-26 04:08 am UTC (link)
yes exactly! To me, it's like they wanted to see this movie because they thought it would be a good monster movie. They totally missed the point. Thanks for your opinion!

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[info]adhesive
2008-01-25 07:28 pm UTC (link)
I've followed this movie since July 4th. I've read every article, purchased some merch, kept up-to-date with my website... And I still thought the movie sucked my asshole.

It was decent, don't get me wrong. But it still sucked.

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[info]winterwooskie2
2008-01-25 07:31 pm UTC (link)
I thought the movie was amazing, but I don't care for the viral stuff as much now. I followed it all, but I felt that it added nothing at all to my experience of the movie itself.

A couple of my friends thought it was "the stupidest movie [they had] ever seen", though, because they wanted stronger diegesis than was on offer.

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[info]xellinamazoku
2008-01-25 07:41 pm UTC (link)
I didn't do any research and I thought it was a really good movie. I like movies that leave you with a lot of questions.

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[info]grygon
2008-01-26 08:43 am UTC (link)
me too. :)

and omg, rattrap in your icon. :)

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[info]whiskeygirl8
2008-01-25 08:02 pm UTC (link)
I think I would have liked it better if I hadn't been anticipating it for so long. I think it's important to be fully aware of the perspective of the movie before you go see it so that you can prepare yourself for not getting answers, but having it hyped for so long made me a little disappointed. And I have a hard time putting my finger on what it is exactly. I liked the movie. It didn't, however, blow me away and that's what I was expecting.

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[info]jessicadwyer
2008-01-25 08:20 pm UTC (link)
I thought the movie was amazing. It did everything I expected and more. That's why I'm including it in an article I'm writing about Handheld Camera horror films. This one is basically the epitome of that genre, from everything that Blair Witch started with back to Cannibal Holocaust which really got the ball rolling.

Since they are in fact doing a sequel I think it should be a documentary about that night, one that's an investigative story that looks into the whole Slusho thing as well as to what happened to Teddy. This to me would be more interesting than another group who just happened to have a handycam the same night as Rob and company.

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[info]militarypenguin
2008-01-25 08:39 pm UTC (link)
Are you planning on posting the article online? I'd love to read it.

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[info]jessicadwyer
2008-01-25 09:54 pm UTC (link)
It's actually for the next issue of HorrorHound Magazine. If you want to check it out they sell it at Barnes and Noble, Borders, and most comic book stores have started carrying it.

The issue after this I'm writing a history of 3D horror films.

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[info]verusmayaii
2008-01-25 10:48 pm UTC (link)
Since they are in fact doing a sequel...

Woah, they are? Really? Source?

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[info]jessicadwyer
2008-01-25 11:06 pm UTC (link)
One was Bloody Disgusting.com and when they were talking to the directors at the premiere, the studio was apparently already discussing it. It only cost 25 million to make, and they made double that on opening day.

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/10941



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[info]decentguywatts
2008-01-26 01:30 am UTC (link)
end of the films credits, noises that're played, play in reverse to hear "its still alive"
fact.

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not going
[info]rotting_relic
2008-01-25 08:22 pm UTC (link)
Ive been watching, reading, flipping the flippin pictures, been to the slusho site 1000000 times,watched all the stupid jamie tapes, bought 2 slusho shirts, ... blah blah.... after all that, I no have interest in seeing it. As with all JJ products, no answers, no endings, just sequelssssss...

I can't believe that, this lame monster is the american godzilla....there must be more to come in part2 or part 2222... either way

Not gonna see it..... I'll wait for Godzilla 2009




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Re: not going
[info]digitalmuse13
2008-01-26 02:04 am UTC (link)
After putting all that effort into it, how can you judge a movie you haven't even seen?

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[info]lalablue
2008-01-25 08:37 pm UTC (link)
I didn't really go for the viral stuff. I joined this community because the trailer had to be the most awesome thing I saw. I highly anticipated the movie. I was afraid the movie would disappoint especially after reading such unfavorable reviews. But to me, the movie lived up to the hype and then some. I was so happy with this movie. The movie was told from one perspective and we know how that perspective ended. What happened to the monster didn't matter so much to me, because I cared for the characters.

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[info]devinkye00
2008-01-26 04:12 am UTC (link)
I agree with you 100% I really didn't care about the questions they started asking like... "Why is it called cloverfield?" "What happened to everyone? Did everyone die?" I watch movies for the adrenaline it gives, especially this one. It was intense, and thats what made the movie good.

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[info]yamikonumber7
2008-01-25 08:40 pm UTC (link)
I'm not a fan of Lost or Alias, so I really didn't know anything about the concept of viral marketing, let alone the masses of it surrounding Cloverfield. I went because I wanted to see what the monster was, and I was simply blown away by how well it was executed given storytelling limitations. (I actually think the movie was better from that limited video camera point of view than it would have been in third person omniscient.) It was the movie that got me into the viral marketing instead of the other way around, and I have to say I've enjoyed the entire ride.

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[info]devinkye00
2008-01-26 04:14 am UTC (link)
To me its like.... the movie wouldn't have been this much of a success it if it was told like all the other movies out there. You can FEEL everything in the movie. If there was an explosion, the camera was thrown, when he turns around and the monster is staring at him right in the face you can feel his fear and it gives a realistic sense to the film. Would you honestly have the same emotion if it did the same stuff but with the regular camera?

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[info]in24hours
2008-02-02 11:30 pm UTC (link)
YAY A SMART PERSON. I agree with everything you said in this comment 1000%.

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[info]kimbari
2008-01-25 09:49 pm UTC (link)
I never even HEARD of the movie until I saw a commercial on tv a couple of weeks ago. I googled it, found the site and got very excited. Lucky for me, I only had to wait a week to see it.

There was a lot to hate in this movie (EVERYBODY dies??!!) but it was a good movie IMO. Very scary in a borderline fun way. (My husband hated it, BTW.) It *did* make me a little ill toward the end (motion sickness, I think) but still, it was a good movie.

Different strokes.

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[info]depraved
2008-01-25 10:02 pm UTC (link)
Lol, wow this is such a FUCKING LOVE IT or OMG I HATE IT DIAF kind of movie. I'm adored the movie and I followed the viral marketing somewhat closely. I'm not even sure how much I would have liked if it I hadn't heard anything about it.

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[info]jacketeer
2008-01-25 10:27 pm UTC (link)
I don't know. I feel like the viral stuff definitely got us more excited for the film, but didn't necessarily make it better.

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[info]pinkprincessnat
2008-01-25 10:52 pm UTC (link)
I remember when the teaser came out and I checked it out and thought "yeah this could be good" and then I didn't follow anything on the net. When the movie came out I really wanted to see it and I watched it on Tuesday and thought it was AWESOME!
It can work both ways, people who reasearched may have loved it and loved it or felt they wasted their time. I LOVED IT THOUGH =)

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[info]likeatruck
2008-01-26 12:56 am UTC (link)
I didn't look into it at all until after I saw it, I didn't want to spoil anything; I researched after the film. I loved it. :)

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[info]decentguywatts
2008-01-26 01:37 am UTC (link)
i was under the impression it was gonna get a global 18/1/8 release [or 1/18/8!], so was kinda gutted to find out us in the UK don't get it til Feb2nd [though didn't find this out til, like, Jan20th! i don't get to the cinema much!]

but anyways, wow, some douche writing cinema reviews for a tabloid newspaper didn't spend 5 months "researching" [or, as the rest of us call it, "checkin out on the net whilst bored at work"]
after the Massive let-down of BlairWitch its no surprise that its gonna meet some sceptics, and its fairly obvious that this has been created as a franchise - the Teaser first instalment done in this wacky style so they can keep all the Actual good movie special effects etc for when the franchise hype has been actualised after this first films release....a relatively cheap start to a monster movie franchise? just maybe! hey folks, its just entertainment...as them black fella's once said "cash rules everything around me"
and now, more beer.

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[info]digitalmuse13
2008-01-26 02:01 am UTC (link)
I think people who didn't know much about the movie, compared to us, didn't enjoy it because they didn't know they were going into. People expect beginning, rise, climax, and wrap-up (can't be bothered to look up the actual terms right now). This movie was practically all climax, and absolutely no wrap-up. If you go to see Cloverfield and you don't know you're going to leave with more questions than you had in the beginning, it throws people off.

Plus, even though it was well done, people are put off by the shaky cam, thanks to BWP.

Personally? It was the best movie I've seen in a long time.

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[info]devinkye00
2008-01-26 04:18 am UTC (link)
I personally think its the best movie of 2008 so far, it was all well done, and what they give you of the plot was something I haven't seen before, so thats also what made me wanna get interested in it.

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[info]digitalmuse13
2008-01-26 02:56 pm UTC (link)
I agree! People are too comfortable with what movies are "supposed" to give us, that when someone comes along with a different formula, a lot of people don't take to it at first. But we need more of that, to shake us up, to make us think! I was fascinated when my boyfriend told me the premise of the movie, because its rarely been done before, and I absolutely loved the abrupt ending - but a lot of people I've talked to, who weren't expecting that, hated it.

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[info]mizmeow
2008-01-26 04:56 am UTC (link)
I "researched" it, saw it, loved it, "researched" it more, saw it again, and still loved it.

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it was o.k.- but not awesome
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2008-01-26 05:08 am UTC (link)
the realism was great, the little creatures were hilarious,,,it would not have been as exciting without the hype,,,people coming out of the theater before i went in kept saying "don't see that movie, it sucked" several people said that coming in and going out...i think the iron man preview got better response...don't get me wrong the movie has a lot of good things going for it,,,i would watch a part 2....a lot of people are just not going to get this movie...,,and i don't blame them

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Re: it was o.k.- but not awesome
[info]visionari
2008-01-26 02:05 pm UTC (link)
a lot of people are just not going to get this movie

I think that's true. The most common complaint I've heard/read is that there was hardly any exposition; people are accustomed to the formula, where somebody in a white coat comes out and explains what the creature is and why it's so mad and how they can make it go away. Obviously, we can't get that in this movie because the story is told from the POV of a group of people who neither know nor (while they're busy running for their lives) care.

The seoond most common complaint is about how the film turned out. People like their monster movies to have happy endings: the monster dies or leaves and everyone (except the designated red shirts) lives happily ever after. Yay! Except that if a monster ever shambles out of the sea and starts laying waste to things, chances are there's going to be an unhappy ending for a whole lot of people.

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Re: it was o.k.- but not awesome
[info]proggrrl
2008-01-26 03:55 pm UTC (link)
people are accustomed to the formula, where somebody in a white coat comes out and explains what the creature is and why it's so mad and how they can make it go away.

So true, so true. And that I suspect, is the very essence of why a lot of people hate this movie.

Yet, if there really was a monster, REALLY, this is exactly how most people would experience the attack: no knowledge of the where's, the who's, or the how's. No idea what is going on, no Big Picture, just their own small view of the thing from the ground. The rest of us outside NYC, not in the Army or at Taraguto, would be getting those vague news stories and bits and pieces, and we wouldn't know either.

Basically, people are hating on the disempowerment that they are experiencing, when a film removes that Omniscient POV that they are used to. It's scary. They might not even realize how disturbed they are by it...the reaction might simply be, "THIS MOVIE SUCKS."

Plus, that dark dark ending, with the nukes raining down and NYC laid waste? Doesn't help either. Again you're so right: this is a much more likely scenario if a monster REALLY was to attack.

It's a very Post-9/11 monster movie. In all ways.

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[info]visionari
2008-01-26 01:53 pm UTC (link)
I didn't look at the viral stuff until a week or so before the movie was released... and I was already all ramped up to see it. Playing the ARG only enhanced the movie for me; I think I would have enjoyed it anyway because when asked why I liked it, none of my reasons had a thing to do with the game.

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[info]kota_tinsleyxx
2008-01-26 03:55 pm UTC (link)
I didn't check out the viral campaign, I only checked out updates with the movie like maybe three updates on Bloody-Disgusting.com. I went to see the movie last Sunday and I thought it was pretty good. It's left me with a lot of questions to ponder over. Most people I know who saw it hate it, so it's good to find a community like this.

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[info]proggrrl
2008-01-26 04:03 pm UTC (link)
I fell head over heels for that first trailer in July, and have kept tabs on the film since then. I really didn't dig deep into the viral/ARG, but I did join this comm in August and it was obvious how much viral the filmmakers were putting out there. In the interest of attempting to stay at least 75% unspoiled on the film, I only glanced at the upper levels of the viral.

I really, really enjoyed the film. Though it was dark as hell, and the 9/11 imagery (white cloud rolling down street; folks running for shelter in bodegas and behind cars) disturbed me immensely. I liked BWP and I liked this too. The films really have little in common other than handheld camera, cameraman's POV, and everyone dying at the end.

Now that the film is out, and I've been reading back and checking out the viral, I am realizing that I wish I'd got into it more. Rather than just being spoilery clips from the film or plot stuff, it's actually giving you a ton of fun extra backstory to enrich your experience. I will work my way through all of the material eventually, to extend the experience long after the film fades from memory.

Those "news reports" about the Chuai station destruction are especially cool. I love what the woman from the End Oil Organization is suggesting, RE oil creating mutation in sea life. Heh.

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[info]mrs_sephiroth
2008-01-27 05:52 pm UTC (link)
I'm planning to do this as well seeing as I mentioned in my post below that I missed out on all of that stuff. I'm glad to hear that even though you've already seen the movie, it's still just as intriguing and interesting as for someone who followed it in-depth at the time the info was released. I won't feel as if I'll miss out as much now.

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[info]mrs_sephiroth
2008-01-27 05:47 pm UTC (link)
I'm one of the people who didn't do any research on the clues or anything [wish I did now as it all intrigues me]. All I saw was a couple of trailers which I thought looked awesome. Even right up to the day before of going to see it [opening day], I was undecided whether to go or not, but my fiance wanted to see it, so he convinced me to see it.

To me, it's one of the best movies I've really seen. Actually, I'm quite obsessed with it at the moment. ^_^ I just love the whole unique angle of everything and the fact that there's just so much unanswered stuff about it still. I've already seen it twice in the cinema, and will be surely going back at least a couple more times. Some people try to argue that there's no plot, but I don't think it needs an in-depth-plotline [this is coming from someone who usually is big on plot and storyline]. It's got that whole 'realism' thing thing to offset that ... you know, not suddenly finding guns and weapons like seems to happen in movies.

On my own forum, there are a lot of people who were dissapointed in it and say that it sucks and all of that. Some of these people seemed to be really into it on the lead-up. I'm not sure if it was because they had too high of an expectation for it [I've had that happen with me for some movies before] or whether it just didn't even up being their thing. I seem to get an impression that it's one of those 'love it or hate it movies'. The people I've come across who hate it really don't like it, and the people who love it think it's awesome [just from my own experience, I didn't read all the replies here yet].

SY...

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[info]crashmycpu
2008-01-28 01:12 am UTC (link)
I went twice with two different groups of people, the first group had never heard of the ARG and the second group had never heard of the movie until after it was out.
The first group all liked the movie, the worst opinion was that it was "decent" but everyone said it was WAY better than what they expected from the trailers. Headaches and nausea aside...

The second group had never heard of the movie before and went because everyone they knew had asked them why they hadn't seen it yet. My husband originally decided he wasn't going to see it (so I spoiled the movie for him the week before) but we all wanted to hang out so we went. All of them liked it, one of them thought the movie was amazing (despite missing out on *all* of the hype and the ARG). I warned everyone to sit far back in the theater and nobody suffered headaches or nausea. Even my husband liked it even though he thought he wouldn't and I had already spoiled the movie for him.

So I'm the only person I know personally that followed the ARG at all, and while I wasn't blown away by it, there was definitely enough there to appreciate it and it was good enough to go see it again with friends who hadn't seen it yet. It was *MUCH* easier to watch the second time around once you know what parts not to bother straining your eyes on.

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[info]too_late
2008-01-30 03:30 am UTC (link)
I think research doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is each person's taste in cinema.

In order to enjoy the movie, you have to be able to enjoy vagueness and character-driven plot. If you're the kind of person who went in hoping to see a gory, thrill-tastic monster flick then the movie was a bummer. Same for people who need closure at the end of a movie.

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