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7th February 2007

ceruleansummers6:51pm: hi, i am new
hi, i am new to taoism. i want to know as much as there is to know about it. i also am reading into zen. i have the tao te ching, and a good collection of tao, buddhist, and zen books. i decided to get into it because i felt called to it- and every time i think of tao i feel warm, and it's different- but anyways- i want to know as much as there is about it.
there a state of tao? because i have meditated on tao- and it was like a state of calming.

25th May 2006

yodaganon2:32pm: Taoist Gods?
I'm kind of confused on one point about Taoism in particular.
I was under the impression, and I have reason to believe, that there are Taoist followers in Asia who worship Taoist Gods. I guess an example would be Man Mo, the God of War.

But, I've also heard the arguement that to be truelly Taoist you have to follow the philosophy of it all, and that God worship is some kind of contradiction of Taoist belief.

So, I was wondering if anyone could offer some kind of explanation on it all?

Thanks very much.

9th December 2005

trevoke6:29pm: Life is not about being right or wrong.
There is no pride to be swallowed by forgiving, simply because there isn't a right and wrong. The sense of right and wrong comes from the deceitful sense of self that we develop instead of keeping our Buddha nature.
Therefore, what is the source of conflict?

1st November 2005

trevoke3:07pm: http://www.jadedragon.com/

A website that has a lot of articles on health, taoism, martial arts, feng shui, and so on and so forth. Very well-written, I landed on it while researching 'wu wei' (non-action) for someone in a taoist community.

Cross-posting to : trevoke, tao_talk, pilgrimssolace, _tao_te_ching, _martial_arts (I feel like I need to spread this one out).
dragon_petals12:58pm: Hello. ^_^

Umm, hello?  I guess you could say that I'm a new convert from Christianity (raised liberal but in an uncomfortably conservative setting).  My original religion was becoming more and more difficult for me to accept and, though I know very little about Taoism, the more I saw of it, the more I found myself agreeing with it.  I don't know if I'll ever be able to fully shake off my Christian roots in spiritual mindset, but I would very much like to at least familiarize myself Taoist idealogy.

So, I guess then I'll ask my first question-- I've read a bit about wu wei, but I still have trouble understanding how it works in practice.  A textbook can put it very simply and very literally, but I don't think it's literal interpretation is really what anyone intends when they refer to it.

3rd August 2005

sparklecookie7:12pm: I need tons and tons of help with my essay question. Can anybody give me any idea where to find the answer to this?

What view does the Dao De Jing put forth as to the nature and problem of human existence?

28th July 2005

kapwrit2:34pm: San-pao
I was looking for more direct connections between zen buddhism and taoism, I know the two systems share some principles but I also think connections are overstated. That said, I found a principle not directly shared or stated in the same way but which both devolped.

San-pao is a Taoist, chinese word which literally means 'three treasures.' The three taoist [inner]treasures are;love, moderation, and renouncation or fame and honor.
San-pao comes from tao-te-ching chapter 67. I think these qualites are needed to also awaken and/or serve the dharma. Love to want to guide others and love for the teaching, moderation/middle way to understand dharma and not fall to extremes, and renoucation to be free from greed and other illusions, becoming a monk/nun is sometimes called 'entering homelessness'in Buddhism.

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12th June 2005

chaosanddesire12:45pm: The Value of Endings

  Any farmer knows that you can't plant rice in a your typical forest. It's clear what will happen. Flooding the area to give the rice enough water will drown the roots of the trees, meanwhile the trees will block to sunlight that the rice needs to grow.

Why is it when relationships go sour people are always inclined to say, "she/he wasn't good enough for you," or "it's his/her loss"? Why would devaluing another person serve to comfort the one who is mourning the loss of love and affection? Seems to me that the only way to show this person that she is worthy of love and affection is to actively give it to to her, rather than merely stating that there is something defective about the person who is withholding it from her.

What is really happening when these things fail, is that we gain the information that we have not yet found our niche. Nothing follows from this regarding the value of the person who left or the person who was abandoned. Being the one left behind does leave one forced to acknowledge that she was the only one benefitting from the association, however, would you not want to know that you are drowning the roots, or blocking the sunlight of someone you cared deeply about?

4th June 2005

kapwrit2:51pm: Was he mythical?
Lao Tze, He was searching for a way that would avoid the constant feudal warfare and other conflicts that disrupted society during his lifetime. The result was his book: Tao-te-Ching (Daodejing). Others believe that he is a mythical character.

Now I don't believe he waited seventy years in his mother womb, but i'd like to believe Lao-Tze existed, or at least a series of people whoose attributes created him. What do you all think?

17th May 2005

abandnformality11:10pm: Hello, all.

My favorite line from the Tao: "Whether you go up the ladder or down it, your position is still shaky." Also I posted this in my own journal a few days ago:

How can any answer you give ever be correct
if you would give a different answer under slightly different circumstances?
That means that no answer is ever right, nor is it wrong.
That means that no situation is completely good, nor is it bad.
Because to someone else it might be bad.
And if you and this person disagree, then neither of you can be correct.

Yesterday I was thinking about beliefs in children.
If one believes in Jesus,
and another Muslim child believes in their own entity,
then how could either of them possibly be right?

Humans are so caught up in who is right, and who is wrong.
But from a universal perspective, neither right nor wrong exists.
True Taoists can let go of that and accept everything.
But if there is acceptance, then there is also rejection.


12th May 2005

cleo_magick5:00pm: 365 Tao
Worry is an addiction
That interferes with compassion.

Worry is a problem that seems to be rampant. Perhaps it is due to the nature of our overly advanced civilization; perhaps it is a measure of our own spiritual degeneracy. Whatever the source, it is clear that worry is not useful. It is a cancer of the emotions - concern gone compulsive. It eats away at the body and mind.
It does no good to say, "Don't think about it." You'll only worry more. It is far better to keep walking your pat, changing what you can. The rest must be dissolved in compassion. In this world of infants with immune deficiencies, racial injustice, economic inbalance, personal violence, and international conflict, it is impossible to address everyone's concerns. Taking care of yourself and doing something good for those whom you meet is enough. That is compassion, and we must exercise it even in the face of overwhelming odds.
Whenever you meet a problem, help if it is in your power to do so. After you have acted, withdraw and be unconcerned about it. Walk on without ever mentioning it to anybody. Then there is no worry, because there has been action.
Current Mood: tired
hidoshi11:00am: On Death.
Once, Chuang-tse was travelling and saw a skull by the roadside. Picking it up, he lamented the awfulness of being dead. The skull suddenly began to speak however and admonished him thus, saying: "How do you know it's bad to be dead?"

* * *

In our world today, especially in the West, we have this idea that life is precious. Is it really so bad to be dead however? I am not advocating suicide, let me clear on this. Rather, I mean death thrust upon you by nature or circumstance. How horrible is it really to die?

Now, in part I am very much a Taoist, and in part very much not. From the model of karma, it would seem that death is but a transition into the next life, and therefore what is there to be afraid of save being responsible for one's own actions? (mind you I think responsibility is far more terrifying than annihilation in most cases.)

So the skull of Chuang-tse presents us with an interesting question: What is being dead? How bad is it? Can we consider death a bad thing, or is that merely our biases talking?

Current Mood: thoughtful

3rd May 2005

senji039:53pm: Joining!!!!!
Hello to all,
When souls gather to share about their journey of self-discovering and awakening,
it is fitting for the new arrival to introduce himself.
So here, I bow to you all.
May we find what we're looking for, and may your insights help me in my search.

Learning is the fountain of youth.
No matter how old you are,
You mustn't stop growing.

365 Tao-Deng Ming-Dao
Current Mood: pleased

29th April 2005

mjeber10:16am: From 365 Tao
Seek silence.
Gladden in silence.
Adore silence.

     As one progresses on the path, one seeks silence more and more. It will be a great comfort, a tremendous source of solace and peace.
     Once you find deep solitude and calm, there will be a great gladness in your heart. Here finally is the place where you need neither defense or offense -- the place where you can truly be open. There will be bliss, wonder, the awe of attaining something pure and sacred.
     After that, you will feel adoration of silence. This is the peace that seems to elude so many. This is the beauty of the Tao.
mjeber10:13am: hello fellow taoists
I have begun my own BLOG here which combines a taoist/buddhist view of life. Feel free to stop by. Comments are always welcome.

20th April 2005

moon_heart11:42pm: Another from the Hua Hu Ching


Thinking and talking about the Integral Way are not the same as practicing it. Who ever became a good rider by talking about horses? If you wish to embody the Tao, stop chattering and start practicing. Relax your body and quiet your senses. Return your mind to its original clarity. Forget about being separated from others and from the Divine Source. As you return to the Oneness, do not think of it or be in awe of it. This is just another way of separating from it. Simply merge into truth, and allow it to surround you.

18th April 2005

moon_heart6:22pm: Hua Hu Ching
I very much like a number of the verses from the Hua Hu Ching. As there's no Hua Hu Ching community, is it all right to post quotes/questions/topics here? I'm very much a novice, still learning about the Tao and discovering my spiritual side. Can anyone enlighten me on the validity/value of the Hua Hu Ching as a companion to the Tao Te Ching?


The Tao doesn't come and go. It is always present everywhere, just like the sky. If your mind is clouded, you won't see it, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. All misery is created by the activity of the mind. Can you let go of words and ideas, attitudes and expectations? If so, then the Tao will loom into view. Can you be still and look inside? If so, then you will see that the truth is always available, always responsive.

16th April 2005

kapwrit9:21pm: Tao snipit
I found this snipit in an old quote book. I am not sure if it is from Tao Te Ching or some other Taoist text, or even if it is a whole thought or one point in a wider case. But I like it so hopefully you all will also. Please share book and chapter if you kmow it.

"It is the way of Tao not to act from any personal motive, to conduct affairs without feeling the trouble of them, to taste without being aware of flavor, to account the great as small and small as great, to recompense injury with kindness."

Current Mood: creative

3rd April 2005

cafe_du_johnny10:41am: new new
Read your request for more members so I have joined. I have an OLD ($4.95) Vintage Books Edition copy of Tao Te Ching by Gia-Fu Feng and Jane English. Wonderfulness. I have done a bit of Tai Chi, otherwise I am a lazy meditator but sometimes i wake up.

2nd April 2005

kapwrit6:47pm: Confucius
I have started a Confucius and all things related to he community. http://www.livejournal.com/community/kung_fu_tzu/

Feel free to check to out and join. Please someone add a pic, i can't seem to. I don't want to be the maintainer either, someone else should.
kapwrit2:13pm: Book Of Changes Chapter II by Lao-Tzu 1934 Waley translation
It is because everyone of Heaven recognizes beauty as
beauty, that the idea of ugliness exists.
And equally, if everyone virtue as virtue, this would
create fresh conceptions of wickedness.
For truely Being and Non-Being grow out of one another;
Difficult and Easy complete one another;
Long and Short test one another;
High and Low detrimine one another;
The sounds of instuments and voice give harmony to one
Front and Back give sequence to one another.
Therefore the Sage relies on actionless activity,
Carries on the wordless teaching...

What than stands alone?
Does anything stand alone?
If you conclude that nothing stands alone is this why 'god' is in some religions? so 'god' can be the thing that stands alone?

Thoughts or comments or ideas or theories welcomed.
Current Mood: curious

26th March 2005

mamculuna9:56pm: Hi, I'm Nancy, mostly known on LJ as mamcu. My son's studying traditional Chinese medicine and my husband is very interested in the ways that Taoism has influenced politics over the years. I've practiced Tai Chi a good bit, here and in China. Some Taoist books, besides Tao Te Ching and Chuangtze, that have interested me are Schipper's The Taoist Body and a beautiful book that,Taoism and the Arts of China also has some online material at http://www.artic.edu/taoism/menu.php

What I like about Schipper's book is that it bridges the gap between what some see as the popular or magical aspect of Taoism and the philosophy expressed in Laozi and others.

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